Tesla hits a grim milestone: its second straight year of losses / The automaker has lost the lead to its Chinese competitors as its business continues to contract.

https://www.theverge.com/transportation/869603/tesla-q4-2025-earnings-revenue-profit-musk-robotaxis

35 Comments

  1. Maybe because the technology is substandard and the CEO is a fascist. Doesn’t sound like a winning combo.

  2. Shareholders had every chance to dump Elon, instead they just decided to keep handing him billions to destroy the company. They deserve to lose every cent they have invested.

  3. ChocolatePrimary3428 on

    I’m just waiting for my AI Robot to read my mind via a chip implanted in my brain and use that to serve me up a beer at the local Irish pub on Mars. 

  4. worker_bee_drone on

    Anyone else think that humanoid robots, while looking super cool, and possibly more multipurpose than specialized robots, will turn out to do everything they do do very shitty.

    For example, I would rather have a refrigerator-to-food-processor-to-cooker robot prepare meals, than have a unnecessarily human shaped robot knocking about the kitchen with a knife.

  5. When your customer base is made up of well off liberals and libertarians, and the CEO makes war on the liberals, you’re going to lose your customer base. Tesla’s left with the libertarians and politically disconnected tech bros, while losing all the well off, environmentally conscious liberals. Any who still own a Tesla are going to buy from a different company once they need a new car.

    It’s a dead brand propped up by the kind of investor who spent big on NFTs.

  6. Am I just living in a liberal bubble? How on Earth is revenue only down 3%? Hasn’t Europe all but stopped buying Teslas? Are Americans still buying new Teslas with any frequency?

    I realize I’m not using data, but it feels like this brand is basically dead.

    What am I missing?

  7. _Monosyllabic_ on

    Tesla is a tech company! drrrrr Tech companies don’t need to sell anything or make money! drrrrr Buy the dip! Elon is a genius! Give him another trillion dollars or he might leave! Hrrrrdrrrrr

  8. Lock_Scram_Web_F1 on

    Besides the obvious political/public relations woes caused by the public face and owner of the company being a bellend, from a purely automotive standpoint, do they operate like a successful car company?

    Their current models are long in the tooth:

    S (in its 14th year of production)
    X (11th year)
    3 (9th year)
    Y (6th year)

    Cybertruck: is in its 3rd year, and it’s a very polarizing design (again not even counting the reflection on the owners’ politics/ethics, only referring to its looks and its functionality as a “truck” given its poor ground clearance, undersized bed, poor towing capacity/range, and its weight/range for off-roading- all things that take it out of contention for a lot of typical “truck” things.)

    The new roadster’s production design is going to be revealed this year, and it won’t go on sale for atleast another year….. a decade after its original announcement, with reports it may be even further delayed.

    The semi truck is so far delayed / in limited production that it’s been accused of being vaporware, but they are starting to show up in the roads. (I’ve actually seen one. One.) years after they were promised, which is not great for something aimed at fleet sales- fleet buyers plan those purchases years in advance. Failing to deliver on time is not a good look in that industry.

    Offering so few models, with such dated designs, some with similar characteristics (the model 3 and and Y are built on the same platform- do you want a minivan or a sedan on your roller skate) is typically the sign of a poorly performing automaker- think Mitsubishi and especially Nissan, who’s finacial losses, declining sales cutting jobs, and have been mentioned year on year in every auto industry article that mentions the brand- often in the same breath as the points listed above as Tesla- a narrow, dated lineup.

    All of their models have had quality control issues at various times, have fail to deliver on their feature promises (self driving primarily) and as an all-electric lineup there is a percentage of population for whom charging realities make an EV impractical, limiting their customer base from the start. Their user interface being all-in on touchscreen and tech when the consumer cries out for physical controls, forcing their own UX instead of CarPlay or Android auto, for what people have repeatedly shown they do want when forced to use a touchscreen, are all just… bad things for sales.

    The only thing they’ve had going for themselves for years was being the leading electric option, but other makes are catching up to (maybe even beating them?) in range, and performance. On that subject, their “performance” hype only applies to their most expensive models and is more party-trick than real numbers. They’re not really attracting the enthusiast crowd- first and foremost there are tracks and drag stripes that ban EV’s overall due to being unable to put out EV fires, most have nowhere to charge, so you don’t have multiple passes/laps with the full performance, and their weight makes them awful on consumables (tires, brakes) as well as making them more difficult to set good lap times (aka there’s a reason people with major fast-car money track Miata’s instead of their “faster “ cars.)

    In short… the tech company isn’t that great at making cars. Couple that with a toxic brand identity, and one starts to wonder how anything other than the inertia of being a big company and having a stock price that defies the market inexplicably will keep them afloat.

  9. Aside from the Politics and your love or hate for Elon, just look at their cars as a stand alone product. They are truly dreadful when it comes to tech. They are bottom of the barrel when it comes to charging, peak 250kw to 20% is laughable. 400v architecture is quite literally last place. 300 mile range 360 long range is middle of the pack and slipping. No USS is a disaster and they are the only manufacture doing so. No hud any of their cars. 500 hp is middle ground for mid size performance EV.

    The ONLY thing they have going for them is charging. The suprecharging is fantastic. I have a 22 M3P i got it September 22. I really like my car, alot BUT if I was to buy a car again today it would almost impossible to justify what i spend in 22 to spend it again on a Tesla today.

    Simply put in 2022 they were cutting edge. Then they just stopped, completely. Chinese EV past them in 2024 and never looked back. BYD for 50% less are comparable cars (though i dont like their design) Xpeng and Zeekrs are starting to show up and its hard to put the same money on a Model Y performance than than an Xpeng G9 performance black edition.

    There isnt much out there for the US but in Europe Chinese EV are eating their breakfast and for good reason.

  10. Destroy Tesla and destroy Musk’s livelihood. Every democracy-loving nation that values democracy should viciously and aggressively target Musk’s inflated net worth until he shrinks back to being another useless relic of nazi aroatheid South Africa.

  11. mtn_doo_codebrown on

    Tesla had a strangle hold on the EV market. Nobody ever even considered looking elsewhere for an EV. Even with all the panel gams and quirks, Tesla could do no wrong. Their fanbase was loyal and growing.

    Then along came leon. Everyone thought him to be a genius. Then, he started to open up his mouth. First, he called one of the Thai divers a pdf. Then, he started following tramp. Fast forward a few years later and he went from being beloved to giving nazi salutes on a world stage.

    Fuck that guy.

  12. ReputationFederal444 on

    Watching this idiot aligning with the anti ev crowd as the owner of a ev company will never not be hilarious to me. I guess the car commercial on the white House lawn didn’t pay off in the end