Trump officials met group pushing Alberta independence from Canada

>The Trump administration has held covert meetings with fringe separatists from Canada’s oil-rich province of Alberta as a rift deepens between Washington and Ottawa.

>Leaders of the Alberta Prosperity Project, a group of far-right separatists who want the western province to become independent, met US state department officials in Washington three times since April last year, according to people familiar with the talks.

>They are seeking another meeting next month with state and Treasury officials to ask for a $500bn credit facility to help bankroll the province if an independence referendum — yet to be called — is passed.

A trial for treason sounds in order

It is not the same as Quebec where Quebec just wants/wanted to run their own province using Quebec money. Here they want to be funded by the US extremists. If they want to join the United States, they should move there.

Anyone who makes a single peep about the modest trade deal with China over election interference should probably reassess their goddamn priors.

I’m sure that the CIA is spending money on Alberta independence. And there is little doubt that they are doing the same thing in Quebec.

These treasonous losers are an embarrassment to humanity

This is unacceptable foreign interference. 

Foreign interference?

So are we going to do something about this or what?

Who are these Canadian traitors?🤔

You know as much as we’ve previously had a high tolerance for separatists in this country, given the current circumstances I think it may be time to dust off some of those old high treason laws.

Similar to Jason Kenny, Danielle Smith has opened up pandora’s box by flirting with fringe elements for short term political gains.

If there is no law in Canada that prevents these actions, there needs to be.
Times are changing, and should our laws.

The penalty should include giving up the right to vote.

People often talk about Alberta independence as if it’s just “cut ties with Ottawa and keep doing what we’re doing,” but in reality independence means building an entire country from scratch. Alberta wouldn’t just inherit Canada’s systems automatically. It would need its own constitution, its own definition of citizenship, its own courts, and a clear decision on which existing Canadian and provincial laws stay in force during the transition so the legal system doesn’t collapse overnight.

On the governance side, Alberta would need a full national government structure: a head of state, a head of government, a legislature with its own elections system, and a professional civil service to run everything from taxation to environmental regulation. Courts would need to be fully independent, including a supreme or constitutional court, prosecutors, prisons, parole, and legal aid. None of that can just be “outsourced” to Canada anymore.

Security is another huge piece people underestimate. Alberta would need its own national police force to replace the RCMP, its own border and customs service, and its own intelligence agency. If it wants to be taken seriously as a sovereign state, it also needs armed forces – at minimum an army and air force, plus some kind of coast guard role even if limited. Defence procurement, military justice, and veterans’ services all come with that.

Economically, independence is brutal in terms of complexity. Alberta would need to decide whether to create its own currency, peg to another one, or enter a currency union (which comes with strings attached). That means either a central bank or a monetary authority, full banking regulation, deposit insurance, a national tax system, customs tariffs, a budget process, and a way to issue and manage public debt. These are not optional if you want a functioning economy.

Then there’s borders and foreign policy. An independent Alberta would need passports, visas, immigration rules, refugee policy, customs inspections, and trade enforcement. It would need a foreign ministry, embassies, and international recognition, plus membership in organizations like the UN and WTO just to trade normally. Until that’s sorted, cross-border trade and travel would be very messy.

Healthcare and social programs don’t disappear either. Whether public, private, or mixed, Alberta would need its own healthcare governance, professional licensing, drug regulation, pensions, employment insurance, disability programs, and child welfare systems. Canada wouldn’t keep paying for those.

One of the biggest make-or-break issues would be Indigenous treaties. Alberta can’t just “inherit” Canada’s treaty relationships by default. Treaties, land claims, and Indigenous self-governance would have to be renegotiated or formally succeeded to. Mishandling that would seriously undermine both domestic stability and international legitimacy.

Finally, the transition itself would be chaotic without careful planning: dividing Canada’s assets and debt, figuring out pensions for public servants, transferring police and military personnel, keeping payments systems running, and preventing capital flight or shortages. Independence isn’t just a political declaration – it’s an enormous administrative and legal project.

None of this says Alberta couldn’t be independent in theory. It just means independence isn’t symbolic or ideological; it’s about recreating every function of a modern state, all at once, without breaking the economy or the rule of law in the process.

If Alberta decided to join the US:

When people talk about Alberta separating and joining the US, they usually jump straight to “51st state,” but that’s actually the least likely outcome in the short to medium term. Admitting a new state requires Congress, and in today’s US political environment there’s almost no appetite to add a state that would disrupt Senate balance. Two new senators is the real issue, not Alberta itself. That’s why, if Alberta ever broke away from Canada and aligned with the US, the far more realistic outcome would be becoming a US territory first.

As a territory, Alberta wouldn’t need to build a full sovereign state from scratch the way an independent country would. The US Constitution, federal courts, federal law enforcement, and federal military would all apply. Healthcare, immigration, border control, currency, trade policy, and foreign affairs would all be handled by Washington. Alberta wouldn’t need its own army, central bank, or foreign ministry. On paper, that sounds simpler.

The catch is political power – or rather, the lack of it. US territories do not have voting representation in Congress. At best, Alberta would get a non-voting delegate in the House. No senators. No electoral votes in presidential elections. Federal laws would apply fully, but Albertans would have little to no say in shaping them. This isn’t hypothetical; it’s exactly how Puerto Rico, Guam, and others are treated today.

That imbalance matters a lot when you look at Alberta’s resource profile. Alberta’s oil, gas, critical minerals, agriculture, and water would suddenly fall under US federal jurisdiction. Resource development would be driven by US national priorities, not local ones. Environmental standards, royalty structures, export rules, and infrastructure decisions would ultimately be made in Washington. The incentives would strongly favor maximizing extraction for US energy security and industrial demand, especially if Alberta lacks real congressional leverage to push back.

Historically, territories tend to function as resource and strategic assets first, political communities second. The US would have every incentive to extract value while delaying or indefinitely deferring statehood, because statehood costs political capital while territory status preserves control. Alberta would pay federal taxes, comply with federal regulations, and host federal infrastructure, but without the political bargaining power that states rely on to protect their interests.

Even culturally and legally, Alberta would have limited room to maneuver. Federal law would override state-level or territorial preferences on everything from firearms to environmental regulation to labor law. Any assumption that Alberta could “join the US but keep its own way of doing things” misunderstands how centralized federal authority actually is when territories are involved.

Statehood could eventually happen, but only if it became politically convenient for both US parties, which usually means population growth, partisan neutrality, or broader constitutional tradeoffs. That could take decades, and there’s no guarantee it ever happens. Puerto Rico has been debating statehood for over a century.

So while joining the US might look administratively easier than full independence, it comes with a very real risk: Alberta trades Ottawa for Washington, gains fewer protections than it had as a Canadian province, and ends up with less political voice than almost any US state – while its resources are fully integrated into the US economy.