The most amazing thing about Americans is their complete inability to change anything about their country.
atwistofcitrus on
I’m a lurker in this sub.
My question is genuine: Why are we reacting to its unbridled eminent destruction of social fabrics like there is nothing anyone can do about it?
Whatever happened to persistent and methodical removal of the useless representatives in Congress who cowered for lawless AI?
mental_patience on
Those that control the purse strings have sold us out for the AI genie. I call it psychological derangement but they call it being visionary.
u0126 on
Because of capitalism that’s why. Capitalism and money in politics… to help the capitalists keep capitalisming
Automatic_Bet8057 on
AI is peak neoliberalism. Once it has destroyed the social cohesion (such as it is) and concentrated unimaginable wealth in the hands of a few, the uprising and revolutions will begin. Reset to 1950s – if we’re lucky, reset to 1750s if we’re not 😔
salizarn on
Which country?
Elektrik_Magnetix on
There may be a trend that smaller companies will advertise non AI products/services in the future but the monopolies that exist are so big that any alternatives will only be affordable to the wealthy.
Asadsad87 on
Because all AI models are developed by corporations and they are more afraid of losing the market rather than break something in society.
DENelson83 on
Two words.
Wealth concentration.
FrontVisible9054 on
Because corporations promoting AI value profits over human beings.
Because they are entwined with government who have failed miserably to protect its citizens.
Because wealth and power is concentrated in the hands of a few.
If anything changes, it will be up to everyday people to reject AI’s use in domains where it provides no benefit to humanity. But that requires existential introspection that’s lacking for a generation so accustomed to using AI as a shortcut to “everything”.
No-Discipline-5822 on
They are salesmen, that’s what salesmen do. They’re selling AI, AI powered products (security, software, glasses, robots) and to each other an AI workforce.
Thereisonlyzero on
modern society even do anything about the elites who they damn well know run child and sex trafficking rings, at this point expecting the global West to do anything that gets in the way of Billionaires plans is laughable after all the other wrongs they have gotten away with.
Unless the bread and circus stops, then the people will sleepwalk into anything their overlords demand just like peasants have always done throughout history
Wake TF up
HeadPaleontologist40 on
There is too much money. $trillions are being spent on AI and they want to ensure that whatever it becomes is profitable for the 1%
Hyperion1144 on
Because if someone can build it…
And if there’s even a chance it might make a billionaire richer…
It’s gonna get built.
carthuscrass on
Because the people that *actually* want it control the narrative. The owner class is gonna force it on us if we let them.
Not_my_Name464 on
When you’ve fooled so many to invest billions in something you either lie and play it up or lose your shirt. Guess which option all these CEO’s have chosen.
imightberusty1 on
You should look for an image of that Palantir billboard in Butte right now.
It’s quite aggressive
knotatumah on
Because the people who control the flow of money are the ones pushing ai. The “country” is mostly a handful of conglomerates and elite billionaires with their pocket politicians blazing a trail of ai so fast we can’t react properly. Nobody is reacting like we *cant* do anything; its that our means of trying to make meaningful change goes through avenues that take forever compared to a trillion-dollar company constructing data centers faster than the legal processes can keep up. But then as consumers? There isn’t much you can do when your existing products incorporate ai outside you stop using that product. And people are starting to, starting to react. But that takes *time.* It takes time to find and switch to alternatives. And unlike our politicians, which we get a chance ever few years to hold an election, you can’t exactly petition Microsoft to *immediately* stop pushing ai outside of just refusing to use their product.
You’re asking why people are acting like the inevitable is happening when facing an inconceivable amount of wealth and power that has consolidated in the last 20 years in a way this country, or any other country, isn’t prepared to handle.
Neuromancer_Bot on
I see these reasons:
1. To get richer. If you can’t lower anymore wages, the best thing a corpo-rat can do is to eliminate the worker altogheter.
2. To destroy dissent. Improving AI will improve any kind of automated managment of dissent. At first it will be ‘peaceful’ then it could be weaponized (see Palantir).
3. The AGI promise. All the major countries have a stock of nuclear weapons but the new frontier is an AI capable of creating computer viruses, biological weapons, autonomous drones and so on. Ukraina war is a sandbox for these technologies and it’s very useful for a few corpo to get all the funding from school, health and so on be diverted in the warfare economy. A lot of money in things that go BOOM and destroy stuff (that you’ll eventually have to rebuild – so you get money two times).
4. Corruption. IMHO we are in a cyberpunk world were a lot of the lobbying is so admant and blatant that politicians just do not care about the next 2/3 years. They want to get rich now and flee with the gold bars. A lot of the overlord have their private island now, they do not care much about the dumb slaves.
5. Moral / social decay. People do not care about others. I talked a lot to friends about the cost of a chat with an AI. Cost of energy, water, pollution in the data centers. They do not care.
They care about their new imaginary friend or creating hundreds of meme videos more than a family in any remote USA region that saw their life destroyed by a data center.
Error_404_403 on
Because it is — unless you live in a shed in the forest.
nolasen on
Because that’s what the richest people in the country want.
This is a cheat answer, because this is the answer to all questions sadly.
indifferentcabbage on
Because America needs some Democracy.
billdietrich1 on
> Why is this country speaking about AI like it’s a fact of life that no one can do anything about?
Because that is how new tech works. Once it’s demonstrated and seen as possible and valuable, the race is on. Other countries, many companies, the militaries, etc all are going to develop it and use it. The genie is out of the bottle.
Odd_Reputation_4000 on
Profits. Greedy corporations seeing the potential profits if they can get people to accept it. People aren’t, so they are forcing it on us whether we want it or not.
ThaLunatik on
Despite having all seen the warnings in Terminator, Skynet still remains an inevitability.
MesozOwen on
Because the people who run the world are convinced that if they DONT, then they will be left behind. No in their eyes it’s inevitable that someone does it, therefor they all have to do it.
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The most amazing thing about Americans is their complete inability to change anything about their country.
I’m a lurker in this sub.
My question is genuine: Why are we reacting to its unbridled eminent destruction of social fabrics like there is nothing anyone can do about it?
Whatever happened to persistent and methodical removal of the useless representatives in Congress who cowered for lawless AI?
Those that control the purse strings have sold us out for the AI genie. I call it psychological derangement but they call it being visionary.
Because of capitalism that’s why. Capitalism and money in politics… to help the capitalists keep capitalisming
AI is peak neoliberalism. Once it has destroyed the social cohesion (such as it is) and concentrated unimaginable wealth in the hands of a few, the uprising and revolutions will begin. Reset to 1950s – if we’re lucky, reset to 1750s if we’re not 😔
Which country?
There may be a trend that smaller companies will advertise non AI products/services in the future but the monopolies that exist are so big that any alternatives will only be affordable to the wealthy.
Because all AI models are developed by corporations and they are more afraid of losing the market rather than break something in society.
Two words.
Wealth concentration.
Because corporations promoting AI value profits over human beings.
Because they are entwined with government who have failed miserably to protect its citizens.
Because wealth and power is concentrated in the hands of a few.
If anything changes, it will be up to everyday people to reject AI’s use in domains where it provides no benefit to humanity. But that requires existential introspection that’s lacking for a generation so accustomed to using AI as a shortcut to “everything”.
They are salesmen, that’s what salesmen do. They’re selling AI, AI powered products (security, software, glasses, robots) and to each other an AI workforce.
modern society even do anything about the elites who they damn well know run child and sex trafficking rings, at this point expecting the global West to do anything that gets in the way of Billionaires plans is laughable after all the other wrongs they have gotten away with.
Unless the bread and circus stops, then the people will sleepwalk into anything their overlords demand just like peasants have always done throughout history
Wake TF up
There is too much money. $trillions are being spent on AI and they want to ensure that whatever it becomes is profitable for the 1%
Because if someone can build it…
And if there’s even a chance it might make a billionaire richer…
It’s gonna get built.
Because the people that *actually* want it control the narrative. The owner class is gonna force it on us if we let them.
When you’ve fooled so many to invest billions in something you either lie and play it up or lose your shirt. Guess which option all these CEO’s have chosen.
You should look for an image of that Palantir billboard in Butte right now.
It’s quite aggressive
Because the people who control the flow of money are the ones pushing ai. The “country” is mostly a handful of conglomerates and elite billionaires with their pocket politicians blazing a trail of ai so fast we can’t react properly. Nobody is reacting like we *cant* do anything; its that our means of trying to make meaningful change goes through avenues that take forever compared to a trillion-dollar company constructing data centers faster than the legal processes can keep up. But then as consumers? There isn’t much you can do when your existing products incorporate ai outside you stop using that product. And people are starting to, starting to react. But that takes *time.* It takes time to find and switch to alternatives. And unlike our politicians, which we get a chance ever few years to hold an election, you can’t exactly petition Microsoft to *immediately* stop pushing ai outside of just refusing to use their product.
You’re asking why people are acting like the inevitable is happening when facing an inconceivable amount of wealth and power that has consolidated in the last 20 years in a way this country, or any other country, isn’t prepared to handle.
I see these reasons:
1. To get richer. If you can’t lower anymore wages, the best thing a corpo-rat can do is to eliminate the worker altogheter.
2. To destroy dissent. Improving AI will improve any kind of automated managment of dissent. At first it will be ‘peaceful’ then it could be weaponized (see Palantir).
3. The AGI promise. All the major countries have a stock of nuclear weapons but the new frontier is an AI capable of creating computer viruses, biological weapons, autonomous drones and so on. Ukraina war is a sandbox for these technologies and it’s very useful for a few corpo to get all the funding from school, health and so on be diverted in the warfare economy. A lot of money in things that go BOOM and destroy stuff (that you’ll eventually have to rebuild – so you get money two times).
4. Corruption. IMHO we are in a cyberpunk world were a lot of the lobbying is so admant and blatant that politicians just do not care about the next 2/3 years. They want to get rich now and flee with the gold bars. A lot of the overlord have their private island now, they do not care much about the dumb slaves.
5. Moral / social decay. People do not care about others. I talked a lot to friends about the cost of a chat with an AI. Cost of energy, water, pollution in the data centers. They do not care.
They care about their new imaginary friend or creating hundreds of meme videos more than a family in any remote USA region that saw their life destroyed by a data center.
Because it is — unless you live in a shed in the forest.
Because that’s what the richest people in the country want.
This is a cheat answer, because this is the answer to all questions sadly.
Because America needs some Democracy.
> Why is this country speaking about AI like it’s a fact of life that no one can do anything about?
Because that is how new tech works. Once it’s demonstrated and seen as possible and valuable, the race is on. Other countries, many companies, the militaries, etc all are going to develop it and use it. The genie is out of the bottle.
Profits. Greedy corporations seeing the potential profits if they can get people to accept it. People aren’t, so they are forcing it on us whether we want it or not.
Despite having all seen the warnings in Terminator, Skynet still remains an inevitability.
Because the people who run the world are convinced that if they DONT, then they will be left behind. No in their eyes it’s inevitable that someone does it, therefor they all have to do it.