>Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has said he wants to make it easier for people to have children, as he confirmed his party would back more generous tax breaks for married people and **scrap the two-child benefit limit.**
>In a speech in central London, Farage said he wanted to lift the cap “not because we support a benefits culture” but because it would make things easier for lower-paid workers.
So which is it nige? Families or cheaper beer? Or is it just cynically saying whatever the other guys aren’t with no substance or credibility?
Sir_Henry_Deadman on
Not energy
Not bills
Just alcohol because that will solve everything
I have no respect for anyone following these people at this point it’s an illness
eldritch67 on
So if I have ten pints I save 50p?
The guy is a financial genius!
L44KSO on
In the US it’s guns, in Germany it’s the speed limit and in the UK the price of a pint. Always something that needs to be kept/held/allowed no matter what.
Tarotdragoon on
Big talk for somebody in the epstine files 18 times.
Scotsman1047 on
Is this going to become our equivalent of petrol prices in the US?
Pathetic.
BabbatheGUTT on
Sure, the ice caps are weeping into the ocean and civilisation has seemingly dissolved into a screaming match, but let’s not lose perspective: that pint of lager is now a whole five pence cheaper. It’s comforting to know that while we toast marshmallows on the embers of society, we’ll be doing it with a slightly more fiscally responsible buzz.
TheFergPunk on
As someone with no kids. I’d really rather we didn’t reinstate the cap.
radiant_0wl on
I didn’t like the two child benefit cap being removed but there’s an alternative of reducing the amount across the board – it doesn’t make sense that a child element add on is more than the adult personal claim value.
Sithfish on
Very appropriate that this is from big issue as it really is one.
drewlpool on
Hilarious given that last year he called for the 2 child cap to be scrapped, only to do a 180 once the government announced it would scrap the ban.
SMYLTY on
Best idea I saw was full benefit for two children, 50% benefit for third child, 25% for fourth child.
lastaccountgotlocked on
When he was in charge of UKIP, a key manifesto pledge of Farage’s was to put the little crown back on pint glasses.
If it needs to be said again, Nigel is a deeply, deeply unserious person in charge of a deeply, deeply unserious party.
He’s rinsing his members/employees, and he’ll rinse the electorate too.
InternationalRich150 on
And the idiots with 5 kids reliant on UC Will still vote for him because immigration….
speedloafer on
5p off a pint, so that’s a free pint for every 100 and we get widespread poverty in exchange. You have to be certain kind of special to vote Reform.
Revolutionary-Mode75 on
Twitter as surprising turn against him on this or may be Iranians bots farms haven’t been spun back up yet.
Catherine_S1234 on
Kinda sums up reform
We are gonna cut something genuinely helpful to society by doing a populist brain rot policy that does the opposite of helping society
jonfitzfern on
Nationalise the breweries! They’re the ones pushing up the prices. We own the breweries, sell beer at cost price, stop paying out dividends to rich folk and stop wasting money on advertising…we’re gonna drink it regardless
Would this not be a popular move? Feasibility aside…
TheCharalampos on
Imagine hearing about a policy that would plunge tons of kids into deep poverty but pints would go down by 30p and you go yep, that’s a good one.
millerz72 on
“Football, beer, and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”
Namelessbob123 on
Cut back on the beer or the kids new gear? It’s a big decision in a town called Malice.
Yorkshire_Roast on
I love a drink. I don’t mind paying a bit of extra tax on what is essentially a luxury item.
96-62 on
I can afford my beer already, thank you. I would quite like parents to be able to afford shoes for their kids.
Mimicking-hiccuping on
I feel like instead of a benefit, there should be a reduction in tax paid. Still £ for £ the same.l, just encourage folks to work, rather than not.
Horror-Protection225 on
It’s it just me or is Farage actively trying to tank Reform’s poll ratings?
The whole press conference was shambles. 5p off a pint in exchange for increasing child poverty is performative cruelty but he also boasted about his connection to Trump, ran scared of a debate with Polanski and was very very relaxed about his treasurer and Ghislaine Maxwell having a longstanding friendship.
Is he worried he might actually get elected?
Cielo11 on
Farage is attacking the child benefit cap because he knows there is a very popular Populist conspiracy theory which says Labour removed the cap to help Asian/Muslim families because only they have 2+ children.
.
downsouthcuz on
If you cant afford more than two children then you need to be more careful.
VickiActually on
How does cutting child benefits reduce the price of beer?
Unless you take that money the government saves, and then cut tax on pubs by exactly that amount, and then create a law that regulates the price of beer?
This makes zero sense.
knitscones on
Pubs are closing as the younger generations avoid them!
Hythy on
The reason pints cost so much is rent. Renting the property, paying the staff rents. Of course Farage will never do anything to address that.
FannyMcNutt on
Reinstate the two child cap, then use the money to provide 2 healthy school dinners and free uniform
condosovarios on
Every single working family makes choices about family size based on income and space. If we want to increase the birth rate there should be incentives to have more children across all sections of society. It is fundamentally unfair to expect workers to pay more in tax to fund family sizes and houses they themselves cannot afford.
Maternity pay based on income, free childcare, free wrap around childcare, and free school meals would be a much better use of money than lifting the benefit cap.
PabloMarmite on
Wasn’t Farage in favour of abolishing the cap when Labour wanted to keep it? Something about strengthening families?
He’s just a professional contrarian.
Fit-Obligation4962 on
We can always import workers rather than encourage Brits to have children 😂
TheObrien on
You’re all discussing this like it would actually happen – WTAF?
He is committing to outrageous tax cuts, and outrageous spending… it’s like a Liz Truss mini budget all over again, but this time with no guardrails.
So don’t worry about your mortgage or rent payments as inflation will soon make you (and me) homeless.
ORRRRR
He won’t do any of the spending, just all those lovely tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, and all those quiet regulation cuts to make them all richer..
But you decide what’s more likely.
GivenUpOnTrying on
My older brother and sister agree with this.
3rd children are pointless and add nothing to the world.
FerretsQuest on
Because Farageski knows that racists love to drink beer rather than reduce child poverty – it’s a sure fire vote winner for DeformUK supporters.
SnazzyPanic on
Whats a equally bad idea as trump running your country? A trump ass licker!
Saw_Boss on
>Farage’s five-point plan includes cutting beer duty by 10% which, if landlords passed on the cut, could see the price of pints fall by 5p, according to Reform calculations.
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Seems to be different to what he said a few months ago
I feel like beer price is way too prevalent a topic whenever it comes up. Are we really this small minded of a nation.
It’s worse.’ Proper’ British people get to have cheaper pints AND no child benefit cap. Not proper families have the benefit cap.
What about the price of blow, can you do something about that Nige?
Great idea! More poverty and more access to alcohol! That’s a progressive country! Bloody imbecile of a man.
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yx062pvlvo](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yx062pvlvo)
>Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has said he wants to make it easier for people to have children, as he confirmed his party would back more generous tax breaks for married people and **scrap the two-child benefit limit.**
>In a speech in central London, Farage said he wanted to lift the cap “not because we support a benefits culture” but because it would make things easier for lower-paid workers.
So which is it nige? Families or cheaper beer? Or is it just cynically saying whatever the other guys aren’t with no substance or credibility?
Not energy
Not bills
Just alcohol because that will solve everything
I have no respect for anyone following these people at this point it’s an illness
So if I have ten pints I save 50p?
The guy is a financial genius!
In the US it’s guns, in Germany it’s the speed limit and in the UK the price of a pint. Always something that needs to be kept/held/allowed no matter what.
Big talk for somebody in the epstine files 18 times.
Is this going to become our equivalent of petrol prices in the US?
Pathetic.
Sure, the ice caps are weeping into the ocean and civilisation has seemingly dissolved into a screaming match, but let’s not lose perspective: that pint of lager is now a whole five pence cheaper. It’s comforting to know that while we toast marshmallows on the embers of society, we’ll be doing it with a slightly more fiscally responsible buzz.
As someone with no kids. I’d really rather we didn’t reinstate the cap.
I didn’t like the two child benefit cap being removed but there’s an alternative of reducing the amount across the board – it doesn’t make sense that a child element add on is more than the adult personal claim value.
Very appropriate that this is from big issue as it really is one.
Hilarious given that last year he called for the 2 child cap to be scrapped, only to do a 180 once the government announced it would scrap the ban.
Best idea I saw was full benefit for two children, 50% benefit for third child, 25% for fourth child.
When he was in charge of UKIP, a key manifesto pledge of Farage’s was to put the little crown back on pint glasses.
If it needs to be said again, Nigel is a deeply, deeply unserious person in charge of a deeply, deeply unserious party.
He’s rinsing his members/employees, and he’ll rinse the electorate too.
And the idiots with 5 kids reliant on UC Will still vote for him because immigration….
5p off a pint, so that’s a free pint for every 100 and we get widespread poverty in exchange. You have to be certain kind of special to vote Reform.
Twitter as surprising turn against him on this or may be Iranians bots farms haven’t been spun back up yet.
Kinda sums up reform
We are gonna cut something genuinely helpful to society by doing a populist brain rot policy that does the opposite of helping society
Nationalise the breweries! They’re the ones pushing up the prices. We own the breweries, sell beer at cost price, stop paying out dividends to rich folk and stop wasting money on advertising…we’re gonna drink it regardless
Would this not be a popular move? Feasibility aside…
Imagine hearing about a policy that would plunge tons of kids into deep poverty but pints would go down by 30p and you go yep, that’s a good one.
“Football, beer, and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”
Cut back on the beer or the kids new gear? It’s a big decision in a town called Malice.
I love a drink. I don’t mind paying a bit of extra tax on what is essentially a luxury item.
I can afford my beer already, thank you. I would quite like parents to be able to afford shoes for their kids.
I feel like instead of a benefit, there should be a reduction in tax paid. Still £ for £ the same.l, just encourage folks to work, rather than not.
It’s it just me or is Farage actively trying to tank Reform’s poll ratings?
The whole press conference was shambles. 5p off a pint in exchange for increasing child poverty is performative cruelty but he also boasted about his connection to Trump, ran scared of a debate with Polanski and was very very relaxed about his treasurer and Ghislaine Maxwell having a longstanding friendship.
Is he worried he might actually get elected?
Farage is attacking the child benefit cap because he knows there is a very popular Populist conspiracy theory which says Labour removed the cap to help Asian/Muslim families because only they have 2+ children.
.
If you cant afford more than two children then you need to be more careful.
How does cutting child benefits reduce the price of beer?
Unless you take that money the government saves, and then cut tax on pubs by exactly that amount, and then create a law that regulates the price of beer?
This makes zero sense.
Pubs are closing as the younger generations avoid them!
The reason pints cost so much is rent. Renting the property, paying the staff rents. Of course Farage will never do anything to address that.
Reinstate the two child cap, then use the money to provide 2 healthy school dinners and free uniform
Every single working family makes choices about family size based on income and space. If we want to increase the birth rate there should be incentives to have more children across all sections of society. It is fundamentally unfair to expect workers to pay more in tax to fund family sizes and houses they themselves cannot afford.
Maternity pay based on income, free childcare, free wrap around childcare, and free school meals would be a much better use of money than lifting the benefit cap.
Wasn’t Farage in favour of abolishing the cap when Labour wanted to keep it? Something about strengthening families?
He’s just a professional contrarian.
We can always import workers rather than encourage Brits to have children 😂
You’re all discussing this like it would actually happen – WTAF?
He is committing to outrageous tax cuts, and outrageous spending… it’s like a Liz Truss mini budget all over again, but this time with no guardrails.
So don’t worry about your mortgage or rent payments as inflation will soon make you (and me) homeless.
ORRRRR
He won’t do any of the spending, just all those lovely tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, and all those quiet regulation cuts to make them all richer..
But you decide what’s more likely.
My older brother and sister agree with this.
3rd children are pointless and add nothing to the world.
Because Farageski knows that racists love to drink beer rather than reduce child poverty – it’s a sure fire vote winner for DeformUK supporters.
Whats a equally bad idea as trump running your country? A trump ass licker!
>Farage’s five-point plan includes cutting beer duty by 10% which, if landlords passed on the cut, could see the price of pints fall by 5p, according to Reform calculations.
Wow. That’s just fucking stupid if true.