So it’s printed in full. Not a lot of details in it. Basically he doesn’t want people to look into his matters, for some reason…
Seems like a matter to investigate.
antbaby_machetesquad on
Fortunately there’s a big ol’ ‘public interest’ exception to the rules. And I reckon a member of cabinet leaking classified info to a yank nonce falls squarely into that category.
supermegaburt on
Fuck him. Dudes dirty laundry need to shown to the public. He has been a malign influence for the last 40 years in British politics.
NoYouCantHavePudding on
Typically arrogant of him using law to protect his own unlawfulness.
CensorTheologiae on
Ooh, lovely. The Streisand Effect in realtime. Where’s my popcorn?
Smooth_News_7027 on
What a fucking scumbag. He’s spent the last 40 years using the media to get his way, it’s time for his comeuppance. ‘The man claiming to be running the country selling information to his global nonce ring’ definitely sounds like it’s in the public interest anyway.
RedofPaw on
>Clause 3 states that journalists must not persist in questioning, telephoning, pursuing or photographing individuals once asked to desist, unless justified in the public interest.
Good thing it’s in the public interest then.
afrophysicist on
Unfortunately for paedo-pal Mandy, theres a hefty amount of public interest in seeing this treasonous vermin get his comeuppance!
_TheChairmaker_ on
He’s sort of right, its clear we need a little less interest in Epstein the celebrity nonce, and more interest in Epstein the man literally suborning a UK Cabinet minister for the financial gain of him and his clients. And just how many other political figures were doing this (and may be still are for other financiers)?
cardboard_dinosaur on
I’m not sure if it’s not loading properly on mobile and I’m missing something but it reads like he’s requesting that journalists contact his representation rather than try to contact or otherwise approach him directly? Is that really such an unusual request from someone with an international profile facing an avalanche of negative press? I expect he has nearly every political journalist in the country trying to doorstep him at all hours of the day.
Seems a reach to suggest adhering to such a request would stifle the ability of journalists to scrutinise his links to Epstein (which is a hypothetical in any case as the story is clearly in the public interest). I know journalists probably feel cool barking questions at politicians rushing down the street to get into cars, but it’s more theatre than scrutiny. It’s not like if they manage to startle him outside of a Tesco in just the right way then he’ll accidentally confess or drop a manila folder full of incriminating evidence.
mh1191 on
Quite a bit of redaction for an “in full” release, like some other files recently.
Loud_Enthusiasm_4959 on
Clearly he has done some really bad stuff he doesn’t want to get out.
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recursant on
He should probably do a special Newsnight interview to give his side of the story, that usually works. We will all have forgotten about it by next week.
thethirteantimes on
As time goes on, the less I think Mandelson was an advisor to anyone, including various PMs, and the more I think he was actually their handler.
No_Group5174 on
He spent most of his life relying on the press to do his bidding when it suited him to move opponents out of the way.
Use those press notices for those who really needed protection from the likes of him. Fuck him.
totallyclips on
I agree with him, if only he wasn’t a traitor and best friends with a pedophile and his enablers and protectors
Talonsminty on
Crazy part is there was a time when that might’ve worked.
mao_was_right on
>Mr Mandelson’s representatives state that he does not wish to speak to the media at this time.
There’s a first time for everything.
James_White21 on
He’s using all his knowledge built up from decades of manipulating the press to dodge this one but we all know he’s gone a step too far. He’s fucked.
long-lankin on
Not sure I entirely agree with the reaction to this.
What the notice basically amounts to is: “I won’t speak to you directly, so don’t directly contact me or follow me in public, and just direct any questions to my representative.”
Is that rather pathetic and cowardly? Sure. But I don’t really see how it amounts to telling journalists “to stop scrutinising his links to the most world’s most notorious paedophile.”
Surely it makes no difference whether the questions he answers are sent directly to him or to his representative? His answers will still be his answers, which can be analysed and dissected at leisure.
Likewise, even if he refuses to give any answers whatsoever then the method of delivery for the questions won’t change anything. Whether he would refuse to answer a question in person, by direct email, or via an intermediary, the end result would still be the same.
The only difference this request actually makes is whether there are photos and videos of him being evasive and uncomfortable as journalists question him in public. However, no matter how well deserved, that sort of tabloid theatrics makes no actual difference to the quality or scope of any actual investigative journalism being done.
Indeed, nothing stops newspapers from continuing to do actually useful investigative work by delving further into the Epstein files and other evidence of connections between Mandelson and Epstein. They already have plenty of evidence. If Mandelson refuses to answer, his silence will only incriminate himself further.
pppppppppppppppppd on
Good on The National for publishing this memo. Not sure what the repurcussions on them may be, but they’re right that it’s certainly in the public interest.
cakeshop on
This whole thing is isnane, I just thought we were hating Mandy in perpetuity since he fucked Gordon Brown!
ac0rn5 on
>journalists must not persist in questioning, telephoning, pursuing or photographing individuals once asked to desist, unless justified in the public interest.
It would appear that seeking information from, or about, this man *is* in the public interest.
So, imo, that notice is a waste of effort.
Astriania on
It’s basically just a big “no comment” statement, I don’t think there’s really a story here. Everyone should be entitled to tell the press to back off and that they don’t want to be pestered in their private life.
That’s not to say that the press shouldn’t keep publishing whatever they find about Epstein and Mandelson. But they don’t need to camp outside his house and call his phone to get a no comment from him every five minutes.
harpman on
Good Christ this paper is cancer. Wall to wall adverts and no trace of the story
Northwindlowlander on
Just this once, bless the National. “Please keep this secret” 2 seconds later the headline is “FUCKIN PRINCE AY DARKNESS SAYD TAE KEEP THIS SECRET! FUCKIN WANK!”
stopdontpanick on
He’s doing his British equivalence of pleading the 5th.
I don’t blame him, if I were an vile and abhorrent human monster I’d do the same.
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So it’s printed in full. Not a lot of details in it. Basically he doesn’t want people to look into his matters, for some reason…
Seems like a matter to investigate.
Fortunately there’s a big ol’ ‘public interest’ exception to the rules. And I reckon a member of cabinet leaking classified info to a yank nonce falls squarely into that category.
Fuck him. Dudes dirty laundry need to shown to the public. He has been a malign influence for the last 40 years in British politics.
Typically arrogant of him using law to protect his own unlawfulness.
Ooh, lovely. The Streisand Effect in realtime. Where’s my popcorn?
What a fucking scumbag. He’s spent the last 40 years using the media to get his way, it’s time for his comeuppance. ‘The man claiming to be running the country selling information to his global nonce ring’ definitely sounds like it’s in the public interest anyway.
>Clause 3 states that journalists must not persist in questioning, telephoning, pursuing or photographing individuals once asked to desist, unless justified in the public interest.
Good thing it’s in the public interest then.
Unfortunately for paedo-pal Mandy, theres a hefty amount of public interest in seeing this treasonous vermin get his comeuppance!
He’s sort of right, its clear we need a little less interest in Epstein the celebrity nonce, and more interest in Epstein the man literally suborning a UK Cabinet minister for the financial gain of him and his clients. And just how many other political figures were doing this (and may be still are for other financiers)?
I’m not sure if it’s not loading properly on mobile and I’m missing something but it reads like he’s requesting that journalists contact his representation rather than try to contact or otherwise approach him directly? Is that really such an unusual request from someone with an international profile facing an avalanche of negative press? I expect he has nearly every political journalist in the country trying to doorstep him at all hours of the day.
Seems a reach to suggest adhering to such a request would stifle the ability of journalists to scrutinise his links to Epstein (which is a hypothetical in any case as the story is clearly in the public interest). I know journalists probably feel cool barking questions at politicians rushing down the street to get into cars, but it’s more theatre than scrutiny. It’s not like if they manage to startle him outside of a Tesco in just the right way then he’ll accidentally confess or drop a manila folder full of incriminating evidence.
Quite a bit of redaction for an “in full” release, like some other files recently.
Clearly he has done some really bad stuff he doesn’t want to get out.
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He should probably do a special Newsnight interview to give his side of the story, that usually works. We will all have forgotten about it by next week.
As time goes on, the less I think Mandelson was an advisor to anyone, including various PMs, and the more I think he was actually their handler.
He spent most of his life relying on the press to do his bidding when it suited him to move opponents out of the way.
Use those press notices for those who really needed protection from the likes of him. Fuck him.
I agree with him, if only he wasn’t a traitor and best friends with a pedophile and his enablers and protectors
Crazy part is there was a time when that might’ve worked.
>Mr Mandelson’s representatives state that he does not wish to speak to the media at this time.
There’s a first time for everything.
He’s using all his knowledge built up from decades of manipulating the press to dodge this one but we all know he’s gone a step too far. He’s fucked.
Not sure I entirely agree with the reaction to this.
What the notice basically amounts to is: “I won’t speak to you directly, so don’t directly contact me or follow me in public, and just direct any questions to my representative.”
Is that rather pathetic and cowardly? Sure. But I don’t really see how it amounts to telling journalists “to stop scrutinising his links to the most world’s most notorious paedophile.”
Surely it makes no difference whether the questions he answers are sent directly to him or to his representative? His answers will still be his answers, which can be analysed and dissected at leisure.
Likewise, even if he refuses to give any answers whatsoever then the method of delivery for the questions won’t change anything. Whether he would refuse to answer a question in person, by direct email, or via an intermediary, the end result would still be the same.
The only difference this request actually makes is whether there are photos and videos of him being evasive and uncomfortable as journalists question him in public. However, no matter how well deserved, that sort of tabloid theatrics makes no actual difference to the quality or scope of any actual investigative journalism being done.
Indeed, nothing stops newspapers from continuing to do actually useful investigative work by delving further into the Epstein files and other evidence of connections between Mandelson and Epstein. They already have plenty of evidence. If Mandelson refuses to answer, his silence will only incriminate himself further.
Good on The National for publishing this memo. Not sure what the repurcussions on them may be, but they’re right that it’s certainly in the public interest.
This whole thing is isnane, I just thought we were hating Mandy in perpetuity since he fucked Gordon Brown!
>journalists must not persist in questioning, telephoning, pursuing or photographing individuals once asked to desist, unless justified in the public interest.
It would appear that seeking information from, or about, this man *is* in the public interest.
So, imo, that notice is a waste of effort.
It’s basically just a big “no comment” statement, I don’t think there’s really a story here. Everyone should be entitled to tell the press to back off and that they don’t want to be pestered in their private life.
That’s not to say that the press shouldn’t keep publishing whatever they find about Epstein and Mandelson. But they don’t need to camp outside his house and call his phone to get a no comment from him every five minutes.
Good Christ this paper is cancer. Wall to wall adverts and no trace of the story
Just this once, bless the National. “Please keep this secret” 2 seconds later the headline is “FUCKIN PRINCE AY DARKNESS SAYD TAE KEEP THIS SECRET! FUCKIN WANK!”
He’s doing his British equivalence of pleading the 5th.
I don’t blame him, if I were an vile and abhorrent human monster I’d do the same.