Amazes me how often this goes on. Needs to be much better education, enforcement and penalties.
And no, fear of a dog isn’t an excuse. Like being a scaffolder afraid of heights. It’s part of the job.
WeddingCarrion on
I’ve seen plenty of cases of drivers of taxi/buses etc. refusing service dogs. Blind people cannot drive themselves around. What did they think was going to happen?
“Oh yeah I want to work in a school but I don’t wanna be around kids”
“I got a job in a peanut processing factory, but I need concessions because I’m allergic to peanuts”
bulldog_blues on
I sympathise with his fear of dogs, but those laws are there for a reason, and lying about an allergy doesn’t paint him in a good light.
If you allow stuff like this you end up with blind people with guide dogs being turned away for tons of spurious reasons which, combined with them obviously being unable to drive, risks shutting them out of public life.
TeapeachU6 on
If you are scared of dogs you cant just hope no one has a guide dog, there may not be a lot of people with them but they still existÂ
According-Secret9516 on
There is a cultural and religious issue here as well.
Many Muslims are raised to “fear ” dogs.
It stems from religious indoctrination which includes dogs being considered unclean and to affecting spiritual credit (you are meant to amass good deeds in this world as credits for the next). So keeping a dog removes good deeds.
Islamic law however permits keeping a working dog, which would include guide dogs (although only sheep and guard dogs are specifically mentioned).
Some modern Muslim scholars don’t see a problem with keeping dogs but many still advise keeping dogs in kennels rather than outside.
Source: I studied Islamic law.
My take: I love dogs.Â
FornyHucker22 on
I love dogs but I have to sympathise with phobias and allergies.
I feel the law should be taxi companies have to offer a service for guide dogs but each and every taxi does not necessarily have to be for dogs.
a bit like how hotels have to offer accessible rooms but not every room has to be accessible.
just means people would need to state if there is a dog or not when booking, no real hardships there.
lordsmish on
This has been going on for a long time. A friend of mine with a guide dog nearly got ran over by a taxi as he went to enter the back seat with his guide dog and the taxi started to drive off shouting “NO DOGS NO DOGS” while my mates leg was half way out the door
Funny enough he was blacklisted by UBER because of it he showed me once in Cardiff centre his uber app showed him 2 cars available while mine showed about 30
Uber kept telling him his complaints had been removing drivers from the app but he has proof that just wasn’t true they were just blocking him from seeing those drivers
Good. The only time a service animal should be denied, is if the taxi driver had a severe allergy which should be stated not just driving off without explanation.
Atlantean_Raccoon on
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. There can’t be many people who don’t know that guide dogs are non-negotiable when it comes to businesses and places of work. If you can’t accept a guide dog in your vehicle then don’t be a taxi driver.
michalzxc on
Taxi drivers who didn’t want to take a dog convinced me to buy my own car
I was booking a trip to and from the vet, and asked explicitly for a transport for a dog. Many times I had to wait for like 4th or 5th driver, because every single one before was like “oh no, they didn’t tell me you have a dog, I will tell the base to send someone else who can take a dog” -> and the same thing, driver after driver after driver. Turning 20minutes trip into sometimes like 3h of waiting
reggieko13 on
Can I guess a characteristic of the taxi driver here?
reggieko13 on
The most surprising thing in this story is that the taxi was licensed in Wolverhampton
Tempacco94 on
This happens to my mum all the time. Taxi drivers will pull up, see the dog and just drive away. Shes complained to our council so many times but they haven’t done anything
SorryToePads on
I’m curious as to what the law is around people with allergies? I’m allergic to dogs, nothing life threatening but a few days worth of coughing and sore eyes. So what would be the case for someone who had allergiesÂ
Comfortable_Owl_5938 on
I also have some fear of strange dogs (strange meaning belonging to a stranger/I don’t know them), not as badly as when I was younger, though I still get nervous when a strange dog gets close to me (i.e. when I’m out walking). But I am aware it would be stupid for me to become a taxi driver for that reason. If you are afraid of being in a confined space with a stranger with a dog, taxi driving is not the right job for you.
ThirtyMileSniper on
I wonder if the Wolverhampton licencing division would even address this.
Thought that might be involved here, surprised that it does not appear to be.
TheLittlestT on
About time too. This has been going on for far too long. Pussyfooting around people because of their religious beliefs – the law should take precedence over religion every time. We’re not living in the dark ages, ffs.
rolls-roycerolex on
It’s his car he can decides who he wants to pick up , or in this case what he picks up
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Amazes me how often this goes on. Needs to be much better education, enforcement and penalties.
And no, fear of a dog isn’t an excuse. Like being a scaffolder afraid of heights. It’s part of the job.
I’ve seen plenty of cases of drivers of taxi/buses etc. refusing service dogs. Blind people cannot drive themselves around. What did they think was going to happen?
“Oh yeah I want to work in a school but I don’t wanna be around kids”
“I got a job in a peanut processing factory, but I need concessions because I’m allergic to peanuts”
I sympathise with his fear of dogs, but those laws are there for a reason, and lying about an allergy doesn’t paint him in a good light.
If you allow stuff like this you end up with blind people with guide dogs being turned away for tons of spurious reasons which, combined with them obviously being unable to drive, risks shutting them out of public life.
If you are scared of dogs you cant just hope no one has a guide dog, there may not be a lot of people with them but they still existÂ
There is a cultural and religious issue here as well.
Many Muslims are raised to “fear ” dogs.
It stems from religious indoctrination which includes dogs being considered unclean and to affecting spiritual credit (you are meant to amass good deeds in this world as credits for the next). So keeping a dog removes good deeds.
Islamic law however permits keeping a working dog, which would include guide dogs (although only sheep and guard dogs are specifically mentioned).
Some modern Muslim scholars don’t see a problem with keeping dogs but many still advise keeping dogs in kennels rather than outside.
Source: I studied Islamic law.
My take: I love dogs.Â
I love dogs but I have to sympathise with phobias and allergies.
I feel the law should be taxi companies have to offer a service for guide dogs but each and every taxi does not necessarily have to be for dogs.
a bit like how hotels have to offer accessible rooms but not every room has to be accessible.
just means people would need to state if there is a dog or not when booking, no real hardships there.
This has been going on for a long time. A friend of mine with a guide dog nearly got ran over by a taxi as he went to enter the back seat with his guide dog and the taxi started to drive off shouting “NO DOGS NO DOGS” while my mates leg was half way out the door
Funny enough he was blacklisted by UBER because of it he showed me once in Cardiff centre his uber app showed him 2 cars available while mine showed about 30
Uber kept telling him his complaints had been removing drivers from the app but he has proof that just wasn’t true they were just blocking him from seeing those drivers
Heres an article about his story
[Uber: Taxi refusals make man feel ‘second-class citizen’](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-53311622)
Good. The only time a service animal should be denied, is if the taxi driver had a severe allergy which should be stated not just driving off without explanation.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. There can’t be many people who don’t know that guide dogs are non-negotiable when it comes to businesses and places of work. If you can’t accept a guide dog in your vehicle then don’t be a taxi driver.
Taxi drivers who didn’t want to take a dog convinced me to buy my own car
I was booking a trip to and from the vet, and asked explicitly for a transport for a dog. Many times I had to wait for like 4th or 5th driver, because every single one before was like “oh no, they didn’t tell me you have a dog, I will tell the base to send someone else who can take a dog” -> and the same thing, driver after driver after driver. Turning 20minutes trip into sometimes like 3h of waiting
Can I guess a characteristic of the taxi driver here?
The most surprising thing in this story is that the taxi was licensed in Wolverhampton
This happens to my mum all the time. Taxi drivers will pull up, see the dog and just drive away. Shes complained to our council so many times but they haven’t done anything
I’m curious as to what the law is around people with allergies? I’m allergic to dogs, nothing life threatening but a few days worth of coughing and sore eyes. So what would be the case for someone who had allergiesÂ
I also have some fear of strange dogs (strange meaning belonging to a stranger/I don’t know them), not as badly as when I was younger, though I still get nervous when a strange dog gets close to me (i.e. when I’m out walking). But I am aware it would be stupid for me to become a taxi driver for that reason. If you are afraid of being in a confined space with a stranger with a dog, taxi driving is not the right job for you.
I wonder if the Wolverhampton licencing division would even address this.
Thought that might be involved here, surprised that it does not appear to be.
About time too. This has been going on for far too long. Pussyfooting around people because of their religious beliefs – the law should take precedence over religion every time. We’re not living in the dark ages, ffs.
It’s his car he can decides who he wants to pick up , or in this case what he picks up