The UK remake seems so low budget compared to the US original…
NuPNua on
They realise people who voted for other parties pay tax too right?
TTNNBB2023 on
Yet again Reform showing just exactly how much they care about freedom of speech.
Epicurus1 on
There is a correlation between the uneducated and voting reform.
smity31 on
“The group – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself …”
Any opportunity to target universities, even when the ‘culprits’ of a situation are not the university.
JagoHazzard on
Silly old Reform, you can’t defund something you don’t fund! How embarrassing for them!
Vaxtez on
Petty sods at reform. A Society at a uni refuses to debate them? Defund the University (which had no role in it) & screw over an entire area (Because Bangor university is a pretty big thing for Gwynedd)
RaymondBumcheese on
Freedom of speech includes the freedom to tell Reform its not wanted.
I know this isn’t the traditional definition of ‘Freedom of speech is when I get to say what I want and you get to shut up’ that Reform and the like usually use which I appreciate can be confusing and disorientating for them.
LuinAelin on
It’s kinda amusing they wanted to send the MP from Runcorn. Bangor isn’t in Runcorn and reform had the chance to send someone standing for the Senedd.
Turbantastic on
And watch all the diet little Englanders still vote for reform…..
FrostySquirrel820 on
I usually prefer UK comedies to their USA equivalents but this is seriously inferior whilst worryingly popular.
hime-633 on
Isabelle Oakshott summed their incoherent position up perfectly with her tweet:
*”I want to go to Bangor University” said nobody ever. Especially if Bangor University is stripped of government funding and student loan facilities by @reformparty_uk Is that “in line with your values,” poppets?*
If nobody “worthwhile” goes there, then Reform UK doesn’t need to speak to them, do they?
See also: 2018 Lee vs Ashers Baking Co. They don’t have to host them. Or anyone they don’t want to.
Reform UK have countless other outlets from which to spew their bile without getting all knickers in a twist about a student body that doesn’t want to host them.
Orangesteel on
Ah Temu Trump behaviour. Fragile egos and punitive behaviour for anyone that disagrees, while complaining about fReEdOm of sPeEch
Ok_Advantage_5147 on
Reforms values are not worth the skid marks on my toilet paper.
DIYBoom on
Reform voters won’t care, it’s not as if any of them ever went to university.
MonsterMunchen on
It may not be run by the Uni itself but the students of where I spent three happy years are clearly still great people.
Meanwhile-in-Paris on
Of course they would threaten basic rights if it didn’t go their way.
sillysimon92 on
Why do they want to force themselves into these young peoples clubs?
This feels like they’re stirring shit so they can claim “free speech”
It’s about as sad as a bunch of 40 year old musicians whining that they’ve been refused from a students bar.
A-Random-Hedgehog on
Dude we are literally seeing reform speak all this shit how the fuck are they not booted from the election
InitiativeOver7314 on
Reform taking the fragile ego page from the Trump manual now too I see.
Mkandy1988 on
Wonder whose playbook fartarge nicked this from, the grubby orange thumbprints are a giveaway…. £1 shop version of America’s embarrassment.
xxNemasisxx on
Why is this news? The party has 5 MPs, we should be treating their nonsense the same as you would if it came out the mouth of a far right skinhead down the pub
blamordeganis on
This is “banning” Reform in the same way that I’m “banning” them if I don’t invite them in to discuss politics when they knock on my door during campaigning season.
Freedom of speech does not impose an obligation on others to listen.
ChampionshipOk5046 on
Trump’s playbook .
The fascists here are going to destroy what’s left of democracy here
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
So a private club cannot decide who to invite or not?
NiceFryingPan on
The Bangor Debating & Political Society – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself – said they had **”zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia, or homophobia displayed by the members of Reform UK”.**
There you go: at least there is a political debating group that has it down to a tee as to what Reform UK actually stand for and it’s MO, which is to create division, persecution and hate. Perhaps other groups and especially the MSM should do the same.
RoryLuukas on
The reason these people care so much about the university debate forums is that they use the platforms to sane wash their deranged rhetoric. It gives this semi-intellectual vinear to their talking points despite it being total rubbish. They get students involved in far right groups and then send them into these debate platforms purposefully.
Defunding a uni over banning them from debates just shows how little they actually care about education and more about being able to shove along their agenda.
Chronospherics on
Misunderstanding how taxation work, and how University societies work in the same move. Very impressive from reform.
Megan-T-16 on
What is there to debate? Three months to the Senedd elections and they have no policies for Wales and their Welsh leader lives in Bath.
Muffdiveit on
Reform are cunts. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Abquine on
Ah, I wonder at whose feet they learned such tactics? 🙄
throwaWay00000261103 on
>Threatens
They aren’t even in power, media needs to stop acting like any of their claims hold any weight whatsoever. They are scummy populists who will say anything to get votes and if they win, they will neglect our society while quietly changing rules that allow them to gain more money and power
squigs on
Such entitlement! The university is not responsible for the SU, and the SU will allow societies free rein. It’s up to them who they invite from outside.
If the society had proposed a debate and the SU or university blocked it, I could see their point, but that hasn’t happened. Freedom of speech absolutely isn’t entitlement to a platform!
ATF888 on
Freedom of speech does not permit freedom to discriminate.
hadawayandshite on
So the MPs asked/offered a debate…the student union said ‘no thanks, we don’t want to talk to you’…Reform try to defund the uni
Boring_Intern_6394 on
Free speech! Unless that free speech is calling Reform racist, transphobic or homophobic apparently
66aadvark on
Oh, here we go….Reform reading from the GOP playbook. Absolute bellends.
-Tsukino- on
So pretty much Reform got offended because they couldn’t show prejudice
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The UK remake seems so low budget compared to the US original…
They realise people who voted for other parties pay tax too right?
Yet again Reform showing just exactly how much they care about freedom of speech.
There is a correlation between the uneducated and voting reform.
“The group – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself …”
Any opportunity to target universities, even when the ‘culprits’ of a situation are not the university.
Silly old Reform, you can’t defund something you don’t fund! How embarrassing for them!
Petty sods at reform. A Society at a uni refuses to debate them? Defund the University (which had no role in it) & screw over an entire area (Because Bangor university is a pretty big thing for Gwynedd)
Freedom of speech includes the freedom to tell Reform its not wanted.
I know this isn’t the traditional definition of ‘Freedom of speech is when I get to say what I want and you get to shut up’ that Reform and the like usually use which I appreciate can be confusing and disorientating for them.
It’s kinda amusing they wanted to send the MP from Runcorn. Bangor isn’t in Runcorn and reform had the chance to send someone standing for the Senedd.
And watch all the diet little Englanders still vote for reform…..
I usually prefer UK comedies to their USA equivalents but this is seriously inferior whilst worryingly popular.
Isabelle Oakshott summed their incoherent position up perfectly with her tweet:
*”I want to go to Bangor University” said nobody ever. Especially if Bangor University is stripped of government funding and student loan facilities by @reformparty_uk Is that “in line with your values,” poppets?*
If nobody “worthwhile” goes there, then Reform UK doesn’t need to speak to them, do they?
See also: 2018 Lee vs Ashers Baking Co. They don’t have to host them. Or anyone they don’t want to.
Reform UK have countless other outlets from which to spew their bile without getting all knickers in a twist about a student body that doesn’t want to host them.
Ah Temu Trump behaviour. Fragile egos and punitive behaviour for anyone that disagrees, while complaining about fReEdOm of sPeEch
Reforms values are not worth the skid marks on my toilet paper.
Reform voters won’t care, it’s not as if any of them ever went to university.
It may not be run by the Uni itself but the students of where I spent three happy years are clearly still great people.
Of course they would threaten basic rights if it didn’t go their way.
Why do they want to force themselves into these young peoples clubs?
This feels like they’re stirring shit so they can claim “free speech”
It’s about as sad as a bunch of 40 year old musicians whining that they’ve been refused from a students bar.
Dude we are literally seeing reform speak all this shit how the fuck are they not booted from the election
Reform taking the fragile ego page from the Trump manual now too I see.
Wonder whose playbook fartarge nicked this from, the grubby orange thumbprints are a giveaway…. £1 shop version of America’s embarrassment.
Why is this news? The party has 5 MPs, we should be treating their nonsense the same as you would if it came out the mouth of a far right skinhead down the pub
This is “banning” Reform in the same way that I’m “banning” them if I don’t invite them in to discuss politics when they knock on my door during campaigning season.
Freedom of speech does not impose an obligation on others to listen.
Trump’s playbook .
The fascists here are going to destroy what’s left of democracy here
So a private club cannot decide who to invite or not?
The Bangor Debating & Political Society – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself – said they had **”zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia, or homophobia displayed by the members of Reform UK”.**
There you go: at least there is a political debating group that has it down to a tee as to what Reform UK actually stand for and it’s MO, which is to create division, persecution and hate. Perhaps other groups and especially the MSM should do the same.
The reason these people care so much about the university debate forums is that they use the platforms to sane wash their deranged rhetoric. It gives this semi-intellectual vinear to their talking points despite it being total rubbish. They get students involved in far right groups and then send them into these debate platforms purposefully.
Defunding a uni over banning them from debates just shows how little they actually care about education and more about being able to shove along their agenda.
Misunderstanding how taxation work, and how University societies work in the same move. Very impressive from reform.
What is there to debate? Three months to the Senedd elections and they have no policies for Wales and their Welsh leader lives in Bath.
Reform are cunts. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Ah, I wonder at whose feet they learned such tactics? 🙄
>Threatens
They aren’t even in power, media needs to stop acting like any of their claims hold any weight whatsoever. They are scummy populists who will say anything to get votes and if they win, they will neglect our society while quietly changing rules that allow them to gain more money and power
Such entitlement! The university is not responsible for the SU, and the SU will allow societies free rein. It’s up to them who they invite from outside.
If the society had proposed a debate and the SU or university blocked it, I could see their point, but that hasn’t happened. Freedom of speech absolutely isn’t entitlement to a platform!
Freedom of speech does not permit freedom to discriminate.
So the MPs asked/offered a debate…the student union said ‘no thanks, we don’t want to talk to you’…Reform try to defund the uni
Free speech! Unless that free speech is calling Reform racist, transphobic or homophobic apparently
Oh, here we go….Reform reading from the GOP playbook. Absolute bellends.
So pretty much Reform got offended because they couldn’t show prejudice