There’s a good reason why Macron is pushing this. Europe is facing more geopolitical pressure than ever.
Heizard on
In current state, we are not a world power. How about you Mr.Macron started rebuilding infrastructure and manufacturing? So we won’t depend on others for everything and so we can be called a world power.
Particular_Bison8670 on
They should try actually becoming a word power before this can work.
IL1keBigButts on
And he is right about this. Economically we already are. We just need to federalize more and build a strong European army, to withstand treats from the east and west.
Subject-Addendum-199 on
I’d like to see Macron be head of NATO when his presidency ends
PlainSpader on
That would be a good idea! It would be wise to hit the history books and prevent history from repeating…
NyriasNeo on
“to start acting like world power”
You have to be one first. Europe is too fragmented to be one.
yesastortas on
But they arent
Automatic-Grape5234 on
Let France bear more of the burden so that Europe can operate as a unified team.
Obliterrator on
They could start by stopping all trade and breaking diplomatic relations with Russia and the Islamic Republic of Iran, but I doubt Europe will do even the bare minimum to act like a world power. Short term profits for big corporations seem to be more important to them than geopolitics. Right now they don’t have to worry much about geopolitics since the US defends them. Trading with the enemy and making the enemy stronger doesn’t seem to matter to European leaders.
account819921 on
The problem, Mr. Macron, is that Europe has a hegemonic attitude while lacking actual hegemony.
PreferenceGold5167 on
Btw the eu has the second largest economy in the world for the idiots going
“But they aren’t”
RLewis8888 on
They should take the position of the moral high ground while the bar is extremely low.
IncidentalIncidence on
maybe he could start by reining in Dassault from torpedoing FCAS?
PowerfulSea1 on
You ain’t any world power, you are all ran by limp dick losers.
Russia constantly kills your people and sabotages your infrastructure, and you do nothing.
Half your countries got conquered by radicals that even saudis want to distance themselves from you.
You can’t even have Christmas in Germany out of fear of getting stabbed lmao
“Act like world power”
smasherella on
Does NATO have any mechanism to boot Orban?
search_google_com on
It is too late. Im a Taiwanese living in the UK and previously lived in Germany. The longer I live in Europe the more I agree to that Europe is just an old museum. So outdated so stagnant stuck to the past. Europe is already very irrelevant in Asia. How it could be world power? Is there any Asian country Europe is more relevant than USA?
rotang2 on
Let Canada and Australia into that sphere. Power in numbers.
Material_Limit_923 on
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
nezeta on
Feel sorry for EU. Previously they had to face Putin and Xi but now they have to face Putin, Xi and Trump.
Capn_Chryssalid on
It isn’t a switch you can flip, and everything comes with a cost that must be borne. A cost and a sacrifice I don’t think most are willing to pay. If the EU was going to be a hegemon without painful budgeting of limited resources it would have done it already.
08YOY80 on
So start doing something
DaySecure7642 on
You can’t act if you don’t even have the power. Get competent and competitive first.
cre8ivjay on
It can’t be easy though. The EU is the EU, but you still have sovereign countries that wanna do their thing.
Affectionate-Fruit80 on
Ah yes, high taxes and more debt to fund government directed investment – the key pillars of a strong economy. Europe absolutely is facing more threats than ever. With all this USA bashing lately, I am starting to wonder who’s betraying whom? Europe expected eternal US military protection while offering nothing in return. Not even a kind words. The second the US says something, “well fine, we will cozy up to China”. No care for human rights abuses, or greenhouse gas emissions. I think the EU needs to consider how they can be a better ally and partner for the US and not how they can make demands louder.
PreviousMastodon1430 on
Okay.. king of castle .. I have a chair king of castle
Balooz on
“Acting” is correct. They are not a superpower
Dimensional_Shrimp on
lee kwan yew said it best, the EU will be a strong economic block, but militarily they’ll never have enough unity to actually matter, but as a trading block, they’re so valuable and they really have yet to get their shit together
Fragrant_Spray on
The problem is that the Europe has many competing interests, so they don’t have “one voice” they can use to exert power on a lot of things.
smellycowboyhat on
Gundam is becoming real
SweetAlyssumm on
“Acting like” could just be cosplay or it could be creating a real defensive capacity. It will be interesting to see which Europe chooses. Europe did the economic thing, it educated people, it generated a bunch of wealth. That’s not enough in today’s world, so hopefully it will be on to the next challenge.
Any-Ad-4072 on
For sure
BetTiny3056 on
a country threatened to invade one of you and yall could muster 30 soldiers to reinforce the frontline. pipe the fuck down surrender nation.
tabrizzi on
First step is to stop acting like a group of vassal states to another power.
CptCono on
Sure Macron. 100% agree. Now let’s get rid of national vetoes and national marker protection within the EU so we can actually become a world power, alright?
Pyanfars on
The thing is, they aren’t. They depend and rely on the US for a lot of their military security. Have since WW2. If all these countries first demand the US stop renting ALL the bases and secure ports for their military in ALL Euro countries, and moves the 65, 000 active duty personnel and their dependents out of Europe, refuse any US foreign aid to the multiple countries that receive it, returning all that they’ve ever received, THEN they might be able to start building up and becoming a super power.
But then again, this is being said by the political leader of the most ” we surrender” country in the world.
glittering_curves on
*sighhhh* Smh this kind of imperialist thinking is just going to pass the dictatorship vibes along. The world doesn’t need consolidated power. It needs more localized investment. Globalism isn’t a functional model when you leave half the world in the dust.
brakiri on
Europe retired in 1945.
East_Worldliness2287 on
Wimp ! It took carney for them to think about growing a pair . He’ll probably cave again . Starmer is the worst . Rolled out red carpet .
Tax the heck out of America tech .
EU is still pretty good. They build infrastructure across countries . Going across the border is nothing.
EU countries don’t hate each other as much as blue or red states .
-Ny- on
For that to happen we need to invest more power into our Federal Government.
Sea_Quiet_9612 on
The champion of free trade, who sold his country off piece by piece to the highest bidder, especially his American buddies, is now fancifully proclaiming himself the standard-bearer of a strong Europe… Have mercy!
dgdfthr on
When I think of European toughness I always think of France.
MedusaGotMeStoned007 on
As an American I would love this
Better-Ad3339 on
Why does an EU of 450 million people, need a USA of 340 million people, to protect them from a Russia of 140 million people?
The EU could be a military power rivalling the USA and Russia *combined*, if only they took their own security seriously.
Potential_Status_728 on
Hmm, I think that croissant has left the station Mr Macron.
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There’s a good reason why Macron is pushing this. Europe is facing more geopolitical pressure than ever.
In current state, we are not a world power. How about you Mr.Macron started rebuilding infrastructure and manufacturing? So we won’t depend on others for everything and so we can be called a world power.
They should try actually becoming a word power before this can work.
And he is right about this. Economically we already are. We just need to federalize more and build a strong European army, to withstand treats from the east and west.
I’d like to see Macron be head of NATO when his presidency ends
That would be a good idea! It would be wise to hit the history books and prevent history from repeating…
“to start acting like world power”
You have to be one first. Europe is too fragmented to be one.
But they arent
Let France bear more of the burden so that Europe can operate as a unified team.
They could start by stopping all trade and breaking diplomatic relations with Russia and the Islamic Republic of Iran, but I doubt Europe will do even the bare minimum to act like a world power. Short term profits for big corporations seem to be more important to them than geopolitics. Right now they don’t have to worry much about geopolitics since the US defends them. Trading with the enemy and making the enemy stronger doesn’t seem to matter to European leaders.
The problem, Mr. Macron, is that Europe has a hegemonic attitude while lacking actual hegemony.
Btw the eu has the second largest economy in the world for the idiots going
“But they aren’t”
They should take the position of the moral high ground while the bar is extremely low.
maybe he could start by reining in Dassault from torpedoing FCAS?
You ain’t any world power, you are all ran by limp dick losers.
Russia constantly kills your people and sabotages your infrastructure, and you do nothing.
Half your countries got conquered by radicals that even saudis want to distance themselves from you.
You can’t even have Christmas in Germany out of fear of getting stabbed lmao
“Act like world power”
Does NATO have any mechanism to boot Orban?
It is too late. Im a Taiwanese living in the UK and previously lived in Germany. The longer I live in Europe the more I agree to that Europe is just an old museum. So outdated so stagnant stuck to the past. Europe is already very irrelevant in Asia. How it could be world power? Is there any Asian country Europe is more relevant than USA?
Let Canada and Australia into that sphere. Power in numbers.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Feel sorry for EU. Previously they had to face Putin and Xi but now they have to face Putin, Xi and Trump.
It isn’t a switch you can flip, and everything comes with a cost that must be borne. A cost and a sacrifice I don’t think most are willing to pay. If the EU was going to be a hegemon without painful budgeting of limited resources it would have done it already.
So start doing something
You can’t act if you don’t even have the power. Get competent and competitive first.
It can’t be easy though. The EU is the EU, but you still have sovereign countries that wanna do their thing.
Ah yes, high taxes and more debt to fund government directed investment – the key pillars of a strong economy. Europe absolutely is facing more threats than ever. With all this USA bashing lately, I am starting to wonder who’s betraying whom? Europe expected eternal US military protection while offering nothing in return. Not even a kind words. The second the US says something, “well fine, we will cozy up to China”. No care for human rights abuses, or greenhouse gas emissions. I think the EU needs to consider how they can be a better ally and partner for the US and not how they can make demands louder.
Okay.. king of castle .. I have a chair king of castle
“Acting” is correct. They are not a superpower
lee kwan yew said it best, the EU will be a strong economic block, but militarily they’ll never have enough unity to actually matter, but as a trading block, they’re so valuable and they really have yet to get their shit together
The problem is that the Europe has many competing interests, so they don’t have “one voice” they can use to exert power on a lot of things.
Gundam is becoming real
“Acting like” could just be cosplay or it could be creating a real defensive capacity. It will be interesting to see which Europe chooses. Europe did the economic thing, it educated people, it generated a bunch of wealth. That’s not enough in today’s world, so hopefully it will be on to the next challenge.
For sure
a country threatened to invade one of you and yall could muster 30 soldiers to reinforce the frontline. pipe the fuck down surrender nation.
First step is to stop acting like a group of vassal states to another power.
Sure Macron. 100% agree. Now let’s get rid of national vetoes and national marker protection within the EU so we can actually become a world power, alright?
The thing is, they aren’t. They depend and rely on the US for a lot of their military security. Have since WW2. If all these countries first demand the US stop renting ALL the bases and secure ports for their military in ALL Euro countries, and moves the 65, 000 active duty personnel and their dependents out of Europe, refuse any US foreign aid to the multiple countries that receive it, returning all that they’ve ever received, THEN they might be able to start building up and becoming a super power.
But then again, this is being said by the political leader of the most ” we surrender” country in the world.
*sighhhh* Smh this kind of imperialist thinking is just going to pass the dictatorship vibes along. The world doesn’t need consolidated power. It needs more localized investment. Globalism isn’t a functional model when you leave half the world in the dust.
Europe retired in 1945.
Wimp ! It took carney for them to think about growing a pair . He’ll probably cave again . Starmer is the worst . Rolled out red carpet .
Tax the heck out of America tech .
EU is still pretty good. They build infrastructure across countries . Going across the border is nothing.
EU countries don’t hate each other as much as blue or red states .
For that to happen we need to invest more power into our Federal Government.
The champion of free trade, who sold his country off piece by piece to the highest bidder, especially his American buddies, is now fancifully proclaiming himself the standard-bearer of a strong Europe… Have mercy!
When I think of European toughness I always think of France.
As an American I would love this
Why does an EU of 450 million people, need a USA of 340 million people, to protect them from a Russia of 140 million people?
The EU could be a military power rivalling the USA and Russia *combined*, if only they took their own security seriously.
Hmm, I think that croissant has left the station Mr Macron.