Is this an actual problem or just someone wants to get attention by pushing for a legislation that whilst not needed no one will stand in its way…?
but_yet-so_far on
this is actually really interesting because the law they are suggesting would surely also cover those ” NYE/Halloween town centre mayhem” “ladies day at the races” “hottest day of the year” stories certain papers do where its just pics of blokes fighting and women having wardrobe malfunctions
even those ” obesity is out of control” reports of the news where they just show random peoples big bellies walking down the street
don’t get me wrong these guys a weird, but i just don’t know how you can tackle this on a practical level, i have no doubt some of the guys will just say fuck it and just stop recording covertly to avoid voyeurism laws and just straight up just walk around town on a Friday night just doing a “walking tour” type video and insist they are just recording what they can see in public
how do you propose to ban that…. i just don’t know
Icy_Zucchini_1138 on
Eventually you will just have to legislate against any sort of filming of third parties in public spaces. Or have some sort of restrictions on filming devices so they give off a clear signal that filming is being doneÂ
Redditisfakeleft on
>It comes after a BBC investigation exposed dozens of accounts on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook and Instagram. The videos focused almost entirely on women, filmed without their knowledge and taken from low angles or behind, sometimes revealing intimate body parts.
Don’t we already have laws against upskirting?
Connor123x on
so will someone have to covertly film people covertly filming women?
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yomStein on
I really think we need to maintain the right to film in public.
We’re constantly having our freedoms – right to protest, freedom of speech, right to a jury trial – encroached upon by successive governments, and often these laws are taken to the extreme.
We already have laws against up skirting, which could be applied here, and we also have laws against harassment/stalking – if the creeps are following an individual woman around.
But if the creep is just generally filming woman in public, I’m afraid it’s something we just have to accept.
s1kreddit on
No assumption of privacy in a public place. If these laws are allowed then just wait to be locked up for filming the police at a protest.
tpool on
Could they not pass a law saying these meta glasses must have some sort of red led that is active when they are filming, so its easy to tell if they are recording or not?
MoHeeKhan on
This seems doomed to failure. We already have laws to cover upskirting and voyeurism so this isn’t needed for that. So if it’s just to ban covert filming then I don’t see how that can in any way actually be policed. Are you going to deem from a video that the filming was not done overtly? Analysis of the wobble to determine if it was a phone in hand or a camera in a bag, camera in a pair of glasses? This seems ridiculous, not to mention the fact that this will obviously butt heads and get tangled up with the right to film in public and the fact that there is already precedent that you have no reasonable right to privacy in a public place. You won’t be able to film any place where there are people. This really is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut and it will be completely misused or impede people’s civil liberty.
AI-Slop-Bot on
Can’t we just ban all of it? The lady in front of me on the train today was taking pictures of people and adding Snapchat filters to them like moustaches. Why does anybody have the right to do that? Why don’t we all have the right to live without harassment by some bellend who thinks they’re a social media protege.
LookToTheFuture1 on
I feel like filming in public is fine; just don’t post online without consent. I figured there would be laws already around this as it appears some of the content can be used for monetary gain. I could be wrong and in my opinion it would be fair to ask the person being filmed for their permission to upload.
Few-Improvement-5655 on
Here we go, the moral outrage justification to clamp down on your ability to film law enforcement and other authority figures.
Serifini on
So it would be perfectly legal as the law currently stands, to film all the school girls leaving a high school and then put the resulting video on social media? If not then why don’t we just extend that same law to cover the situation being described in the article?
PartyPoison98 on
No reasonable expectation of privacy in public.
If you dont want people to see you a certain way, don’t present yourself that way in public.
People who are legitimately harassing and upskirting and the like can be dealt with via pre existing legislation.
DzoQiEuoi on
The easy way to solve this problem is to ban content recommendation algorithms from social media.
No more going viral and then monetising attention.
It would solve so many problems at a stroke without needing to bring in draconian restrictions on everybody else.
It would also benefit the economy if influencers have to get real jobs doing something productive.
AlfredLuan on
why only women? as a man i dont want to be covertly filmed either. all cctv should be banned
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Is this an actual problem or just someone wants to get attention by pushing for a legislation that whilst not needed no one will stand in its way…?
this is actually really interesting because the law they are suggesting would surely also cover those ” NYE/Halloween town centre mayhem” “ladies day at the races” “hottest day of the year” stories certain papers do where its just pics of blokes fighting and women having wardrobe malfunctions
even those ” obesity is out of control” reports of the news where they just show random peoples big bellies walking down the street
don’t get me wrong these guys a weird, but i just don’t know how you can tackle this on a practical level, i have no doubt some of the guys will just say fuck it and just stop recording covertly to avoid voyeurism laws and just straight up just walk around town on a Friday night just doing a “walking tour” type video and insist they are just recording what they can see in public
how do you propose to ban that…. i just don’t know
Eventually you will just have to legislate against any sort of filming of third parties in public spaces. Or have some sort of restrictions on filming devices so they give off a clear signal that filming is being doneÂ
>It comes after a BBC investigation exposed dozens of accounts on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook and Instagram. The videos focused almost entirely on women, filmed without their knowledge and taken from low angles or behind, sometimes revealing intimate body parts.
Don’t we already have laws against upskirting?
so will someone have to covertly film people covertly filming women?
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I really think we need to maintain the right to film in public.
We’re constantly having our freedoms – right to protest, freedom of speech, right to a jury trial – encroached upon by successive governments, and often these laws are taken to the extreme.
We already have laws against up skirting, which could be applied here, and we also have laws against harassment/stalking – if the creeps are following an individual woman around.
But if the creep is just generally filming woman in public, I’m afraid it’s something we just have to accept.
No assumption of privacy in a public place. If these laws are allowed then just wait to be locked up for filming the police at a protest.
Could they not pass a law saying these meta glasses must have some sort of red led that is active when they are filming, so its easy to tell if they are recording or not?
This seems doomed to failure. We already have laws to cover upskirting and voyeurism so this isn’t needed for that. So if it’s just to ban covert filming then I don’t see how that can in any way actually be policed. Are you going to deem from a video that the filming was not done overtly? Analysis of the wobble to determine if it was a phone in hand or a camera in a bag, camera in a pair of glasses? This seems ridiculous, not to mention the fact that this will obviously butt heads and get tangled up with the right to film in public and the fact that there is already precedent that you have no reasonable right to privacy in a public place. You won’t be able to film any place where there are people. This really is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut and it will be completely misused or impede people’s civil liberty.
Can’t we just ban all of it? The lady in front of me on the train today was taking pictures of people and adding Snapchat filters to them like moustaches. Why does anybody have the right to do that? Why don’t we all have the right to live without harassment by some bellend who thinks they’re a social media protege.
I feel like filming in public is fine; just don’t post online without consent. I figured there would be laws already around this as it appears some of the content can be used for monetary gain. I could be wrong and in my opinion it would be fair to ask the person being filmed for their permission to upload.
Here we go, the moral outrage justification to clamp down on your ability to film law enforcement and other authority figures.
So it would be perfectly legal as the law currently stands, to film all the school girls leaving a high school and then put the resulting video on social media? If not then why don’t we just extend that same law to cover the situation being described in the article?
No reasonable expectation of privacy in public.
If you dont want people to see you a certain way, don’t present yourself that way in public.
People who are legitimately harassing and upskirting and the like can be dealt with via pre existing legislation.
The easy way to solve this problem is to ban content recommendation algorithms from social media.
No more going viral and then monetising attention.
It would solve so many problems at a stroke without needing to bring in draconian restrictions on everybody else.
It would also benefit the economy if influencers have to get real jobs doing something productive.
why only women? as a man i dont want to be covertly filmed either. all cctv should be banned