Right as Venezuela starts giving oil to Israel. This world is so fucking stupid.
Amoral_Abe on
I mean… yeah. The US stated policy goal for decades has been the removal of the regime in Cuba. Honestly, this is the best chance they have so the US will 100% take full advantage of this opportunity. The only Administration to pull back from this was the Obama administration, however that was because they felt removing the regime was unlikely so it would be best to try and mend ties.
The Cuban community in Florida are a very large voting block and have been pushing for this heavily which is why almost every administration has been reluctant to go against the policy of removing the regime. Florida is usually a major swing state and the Cuban community plays a big role. Rubio may achieve his dream of being the architect to the Cuban government’s collapse.
SeniorPuddykin on
Narcissists play live action Risk while real people starve and suffer. Tale as old as time.
hmr0987 on
So basically what Trump is shooting for is regime change through deliberately making life even worse for the people of Cuba. Maybe there’s a reason this method hasn’t been tried for a long time. I guess the only hope this go around is that social media and the internet exists?
ParkerBlack123 on
Its not the responsibility of the US to prop up regimes that are in conflict with our interests
Skorpyos on
And to imagine that Cubans voted overwhelmingly for this to happen, knowing that their relatives back home would suffer.
OnlyRise9816 on
Cuba had close to 4 decades where the Soviet Union was dumping money on them, in return for ludicrously overpriced sugar. Yet instead of diversifying, going hard into oil production(Cuba actually has significant offshore deposits), and the like; it instead largely just went into social welfare programs, which while very popular, always assumed Daddy Soviet Union would always be around to bankroll everything. Like they were isolated and right next door to the US, they should have understood that self dependence was Existential. But Cuba didn’t. Then it lost the Soviet Union, had a VERY hard decade, was rescued by Venezuela,(which Cuba traded medical expertise for oil); but now THAT’s gone. Like at some point willfully short sighted strategic planning is gonna come home to roost, even if the US didn’t have as much of a hateboner over Cuba that it always has.(edited 40 decades to 4, I am le tired)
mixgasdivr on
Let’s maybe blame the repressive communist dictatorship that murdered millions, destroyed the economy, and enriched themselves. Maybe tell that story.
JoyboyActual on
Before anyone starts whining about ImPeRiAlIsM in the comments, google the human rights record of the cuban government and how many activists they murdered and imprisoned during the last major protests. They don’t deserve sympathy, if the government really cared about its people, they’d make a deal with the US to host free elections and let the chips fall.
True-Source-6512 on
Are we blaming Cubas situation on the U.S. really?
Psyclist80 on
As a Canadian that has vistied Cuba numerous times. I feel for its people. I dont like the control exerted on them by a foreign entity. We here in Canada are now getting a taste of what its like to be squeezed by the US and it has soured many of us to the extent we wont ever set foot in the US again.
America should have buried the hatchet years ago and let Cuba live as they chose to do. You cant control the world, get it through your fucking heads.
Mr-Plop on
They have been going without food for decades. This is just making it worse. Cubans in exile very much support this.
yallmad4 on
“My neighbor refuses to give me $100k after terrible gambling mishap loses me my life savings”
basswooddad on
And the US wonders why all these foreigners hate them. They literally make them that way. Just the blind leading the blind.
Electrical-Staff735 on
Dang that cuban government with they’re higher life expectancy, literacy, and doctors per capita. Why are we still embarging them other than yesterday old America hates the commies and still mad we lost the bay of pigs.
vanguy79 on
This illustrates how Russia is now so weak militarily and economically they cannot even support their allies. Putin’s Ukraine war consequences.
Jts109 on
It has been over nine years since Castro’s death and 66 years since the embargo, isn’t it time for relations to normalize already? Vietnam is an ally now, why can’t Cuba be? I never heard of Vietnamese-American refugees becoming a forceful political bloc preventing normalized relations like the Cuban-Americans have. Who exactly is benefiting from the status quo where people are starving? Seems like such a waste.
smellmyfingerplz on
I feel like there just has to be a better way than all this suffering
poopiebutt505 on
Before Caytro, the US supported the oppressive corporate/Mafia friendly oligarchy of Batista. 1% owned 99% of everything. That is what A.erica is: a supporter of oppressive regimes. Cuba would have been successful without the US e.bargks for 60+ years.
rerun_ky on
They could you know have free and fair elections.
houstonyoureaproblem on
Over/under on days until the US military intervenes and removes Diaz?
21?
NoQuarter4617 on
Communism is bad, don’t do it.
josegjrd on
But what happens once you destroy the boogie man.
futuremuse on
“I don’t believe even the Trump administration could try to block humanitarian assistance to children who are hungry.”
This is, unfortunately, a naive take given what the Trump administration is doing to children within its own borders; namely, putting them in concentration camps. It doesn’t even seem to matter if said children were born in the US or not so I can’t see them caring about Cuban children in particular. Regardless, the policies enacted to force a foreign country’s government to collapse at the expense of its populace are grotesque and inhumane.
Unchosenone7 on
And they’ll tell you it’s the communist systems fault for all the suffering…
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Right as Venezuela starts giving oil to Israel. This world is so fucking stupid.
I mean… yeah. The US stated policy goal for decades has been the removal of the regime in Cuba. Honestly, this is the best chance they have so the US will 100% take full advantage of this opportunity. The only Administration to pull back from this was the Obama administration, however that was because they felt removing the regime was unlikely so it would be best to try and mend ties.
The Cuban community in Florida are a very large voting block and have been pushing for this heavily which is why almost every administration has been reluctant to go against the policy of removing the regime. Florida is usually a major swing state and the Cuban community plays a big role. Rubio may achieve his dream of being the architect to the Cuban government’s collapse.
Narcissists play live action Risk while real people starve and suffer. Tale as old as time.
So basically what Trump is shooting for is regime change through deliberately making life even worse for the people of Cuba. Maybe there’s a reason this method hasn’t been tried for a long time. I guess the only hope this go around is that social media and the internet exists?
Its not the responsibility of the US to prop up regimes that are in conflict with our interests
And to imagine that Cubans voted overwhelmingly for this to happen, knowing that their relatives back home would suffer.
Cuba had close to 4 decades where the Soviet Union was dumping money on them, in return for ludicrously overpriced sugar. Yet instead of diversifying, going hard into oil production(Cuba actually has significant offshore deposits), and the like; it instead largely just went into social welfare programs, which while very popular, always assumed Daddy Soviet Union would always be around to bankroll everything. Like they were isolated and right next door to the US, they should have understood that self dependence was Existential. But Cuba didn’t. Then it lost the Soviet Union, had a VERY hard decade, was rescued by Venezuela,(which Cuba traded medical expertise for oil); but now THAT’s gone. Like at some point willfully short sighted strategic planning is gonna come home to roost, even if the US didn’t have as much of a hateboner over Cuba that it always has.(edited 40 decades to 4, I am le tired)
Let’s maybe blame the repressive communist dictatorship that murdered millions, destroyed the economy, and enriched themselves. Maybe tell that story.
Before anyone starts whining about ImPeRiAlIsM in the comments, google the human rights record of the cuban government and how many activists they murdered and imprisoned during the last major protests. They don’t deserve sympathy, if the government really cared about its people, they’d make a deal with the US to host free elections and let the chips fall.
Are we blaming Cubas situation on the U.S. really?
As a Canadian that has vistied Cuba numerous times. I feel for its people. I dont like the control exerted on them by a foreign entity. We here in Canada are now getting a taste of what its like to be squeezed by the US and it has soured many of us to the extent we wont ever set foot in the US again.
America should have buried the hatchet years ago and let Cuba live as they chose to do. You cant control the world, get it through your fucking heads.
They have been going without food for decades. This is just making it worse. Cubans in exile very much support this.
“My neighbor refuses to give me $100k after terrible gambling mishap loses me my life savings”
And the US wonders why all these foreigners hate them. They literally make them that way. Just the blind leading the blind.
Dang that cuban government with they’re higher life expectancy, literacy, and doctors per capita. Why are we still embarging them other than yesterday old America hates the commies and still mad we lost the bay of pigs.
This illustrates how Russia is now so weak militarily and economically they cannot even support their allies. Putin’s Ukraine war consequences.
It has been over nine years since Castro’s death and 66 years since the embargo, isn’t it time for relations to normalize already? Vietnam is an ally now, why can’t Cuba be? I never heard of Vietnamese-American refugees becoming a forceful political bloc preventing normalized relations like the Cuban-Americans have. Who exactly is benefiting from the status quo where people are starving? Seems like such a waste.
I feel like there just has to be a better way than all this suffering
Before Caytro, the US supported the oppressive corporate/Mafia friendly oligarchy of Batista. 1% owned 99% of everything. That is what A.erica is: a supporter of oppressive regimes. Cuba would have been successful without the US e.bargks for 60+ years.
They could you know have free and fair elections.
Over/under on days until the US military intervenes and removes Diaz?
21?
Communism is bad, don’t do it.
But what happens once you destroy the boogie man.
“I don’t believe even the Trump administration could try to block humanitarian assistance to children who are hungry.”
This is, unfortunately, a naive take given what the Trump administration is doing to children within its own borders; namely, putting them in concentration camps. It doesn’t even seem to matter if said children were born in the US or not so I can’t see them caring about Cuban children in particular. Regardless, the policies enacted to force a foreign country’s government to collapse at the expense of its populace are grotesque and inhumane.
And they’ll tell you it’s the communist systems fault for all the suffering…