What? Greece was never part of the Turkish Empire! /s
Electronic-Tea-3691 on
yo mama so fat she covered more land area than the Ottoman Empire in 1683 at its greatest extent… yeah I guess that one doesn’t really work
I probably would have zoomed this map in considering that the vast majority of it is not under ottoman rule…
Hail_to_the_Nidoking on
0/10 would not recommend.
excaliju9403 on
just before one siege of vienna too far
Dull-Nectarine380 on
They had more of sudan and western persia
Used_Tale9203 on
You can still see in Hungary that parts that have never been occupied by the Turks are more developed
BatPersonal6259 on
Let me rephrase for you, map of genocidal Turkic colonialism by Turkic central Asian settlers living on stolen Anatolian lands took through racial cleansing
Visible_Factor_1234 on
Very interesting to see old empire of that time to always have land around the water
Useless_or_inept on
We’ve had one siege of Vienna, yes. But what about *second* siege of Vienna?
AlexRyang on
I do find it interesting how similar it lines up with Roman control of this region.
Apprehensive-Bear655 on
👍🏽
Odd_Bodybuilder_4772 on
You can see the outlines of modern day Croatia borders.
CataphractBunny on
Fuck the Ottomans.
Lothronion on
The southernmost leg of the Peloponnese, the Mani Peninsula, was not part of the domain of the Ottoman Sultanate, but instead a sovereign state (with only fringe cantons being vassal to the Ottoman Porte). In fact, in 1683 AD its political leadership was in close communication with the Venetian Republic for the preparations of the Sixth Ottoman–Venetian War (1684-1699 AD), and specifically the front of the Morean War.
At the time they were in negotiations over the form of the Venetian-Maniot alliance, and the number of troops each side would provide. Eventually they would agree in a joint campaign, where the Venetians would bring their Christian Armada, of about 12,000 troops (Venetians, other Italians, Dalmatian Slavs, German mercenaries, Maltese knights, etc.), and the Maniots would contribute with 15,000 troops. The latter were also pressuring the former for possession of key-points deemed as important for their security, such as the Malean Peninsula and especially Monemvasia, but ultimately this never happened, and at most the Venetian Morean Kingdom would respect the boundaries of the Maniot Commonwealth (but not without trying to pressure some Northern Maniot cantons to pay taxes to them, resulting in them waging large raids in Messenia and Laconia).
Toby-Finkelstein on
We should just call it the Turkish colonial period
KingKohishi on
Since the Princes of Walachia, Moldavia and Transylvania were appointed by the Ottoman governor, they were vassals.
Worldly_Camp4460 on
Until a few polish chevaliers arrive 😁
Limp-Tea3778 on
1- Not the greatest’s extent map
2- HEAVILY underestimates Ottoman control; They had more of Africa, Red sea coasts, Hejaz, Iranian Gulf coasts and They had yemen, west persia and georgia.
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Eris13x on
No Aceh, sad
Fehervari on
That’s quite obviously not 1683
madDamon_ on
Finally a map that shows how the rest of the empires looked at the time instead of where the borders are nowadays
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OP is wrong.
The Ottoman’s reached their territorial peak in the 19th century with Muhammed Ali’s (then governor of the Ottoman Empire) expansion southwards.
1590 borders are also much larger than what is shown. It included everything until Yemen and western Iran + caucasus.
raulsj_m on
It kinda reminds me of Justinian’s empire.
wq1119 on
Fun fact: In the 1560s, the Sultanate of Aceh requested to be annexed into the Ottoman Empire, and the Sultan agreed, but in the end, he was forced to redirect his ships to stop a revolt in Yemen, so the annexation never occurred.
So it spent 250 years in decline before finally sputtering out. That’s as old as America is.
LopsidedWeb6767 on
Why do people get downvoted for saying that they dislike the Ottomans? I’ve never seen that happen maps about other historical empires
funnypickle420 on
Well the peak in Europe that is, after the annexed Podolia from Poland. Their peak in Asia and over all was after Suleiman with Murad III in 1590 conquering the whole of West Iran, and bits in the caucasus.
Whilst the peak in Africa was probably somewhere before Muhammad Ali turned on them, I mean they went as far south as the Congo.
I-hate-taxes on
Don’t siege Vienna, take it immediately.
ToonMasterRace on
Largest slave empire in history
Ambitious-Cat-5678 on
A lot of this map is just their theoretical control.
caribbean_caramel on
I wonder why the ottomans never managed to conquer Morocco.
Extension_Course_833 on
The mostly f@cked up parts of the world!
Material-Good9468 on
Wasn’t North Africa just tributaries and vassals not direct land control?
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What? Greece was never part of the Turkish Empire! /s
yo mama so fat she covered more land area than the Ottoman Empire in 1683 at its greatest extent… yeah I guess that one doesn’t really work
I probably would have zoomed this map in considering that the vast majority of it is not under ottoman rule…
0/10 would not recommend.
just before one siege of vienna too far
They had more of sudan and western persia
You can still see in Hungary that parts that have never been occupied by the Turks are more developed
Let me rephrase for you, map of genocidal Turkic colonialism by Turkic central Asian settlers living on stolen Anatolian lands took through racial cleansing
Very interesting to see old empire of that time to always have land around the water
We’ve had one siege of Vienna, yes. But what about *second* siege of Vienna?
I do find it interesting how similar it lines up with Roman control of this region.
👍🏽
You can see the outlines of modern day Croatia borders.
Fuck the Ottomans.
The southernmost leg of the Peloponnese, the Mani Peninsula, was not part of the domain of the Ottoman Sultanate, but instead a sovereign state (with only fringe cantons being vassal to the Ottoman Porte). In fact, in 1683 AD its political leadership was in close communication with the Venetian Republic for the preparations of the Sixth Ottoman–Venetian War (1684-1699 AD), and specifically the front of the Morean War.
At the time they were in negotiations over the form of the Venetian-Maniot alliance, and the number of troops each side would provide. Eventually they would agree in a joint campaign, where the Venetians would bring their Christian Armada, of about 12,000 troops (Venetians, other Italians, Dalmatian Slavs, German mercenaries, Maltese knights, etc.), and the Maniots would contribute with 15,000 troops. The latter were also pressuring the former for possession of key-points deemed as important for their security, such as the Malean Peninsula and especially Monemvasia, but ultimately this never happened, and at most the Venetian Morean Kingdom would respect the boundaries of the Maniot Commonwealth (but not without trying to pressure some Northern Maniot cantons to pay taxes to them, resulting in them waging large raids in Messenia and Laconia).
We should just call it the Turkish colonial period
Since the Princes of Walachia, Moldavia and Transylvania were appointed by the Ottoman governor, they were vassals.
Until a few polish chevaliers arrive 😁
1- Not the greatest’s extent map
2- HEAVILY underestimates Ottoman control; They had more of Africa, Red sea coasts, Hejaz, Iranian Gulf coasts and They had yemen, west persia and georgia.
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No Aceh, sad
That’s quite obviously not 1683
Finally a map that shows how the rest of the empires looked at the time instead of where the borders are nowadays
OP is wrong.
The Ottoman’s reached their territorial peak in the 19th century with Muhammed Ali’s (then governor of the Ottoman Empire) expansion southwards.
1590 borders are also much larger than what is shown. It included everything until Yemen and western Iran + caucasus.
It kinda reminds me of Justinian’s empire.
Fun fact: In the 1560s, the Sultanate of Aceh requested to be annexed into the Ottoman Empire, and the Sultan agreed, but in the end, he was forced to redirect his ships to stop a revolt in Yemen, so the annexation never occurred.
(Source: [The Ottoman Age of Exploration (2011) by Giancarlo Casale](https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ottoman_Age_of_Exploration/Xf3h3Z1YQtIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Perhaps+its+most+striking+claim+was+that,+in+Aceh,+the+sultan+no+longer+wished+to+simply+purchase+arms+and+supplies+from+the+Ottomans,+nor+even+forge+a+temporary+strategic+alliance+with+Istanbul.+Instead,+Sultan+Ali+Ala%E2%80%99ad-din+Ri%E2%80%99ayat+Syah+declared+an+intention%E2%80%94openly+evocative+of+Rumi+Khan%E2%80%99s+earlier+proclamation+recorded+in+%E2%80%9CMirror+of+Countries%E2%80%9D%E2%80%94to+have+his+lands+formally+annexed+by+the+Ottoman+state+in+exchange+for+help+against+the+Portuguese+in+Malacca…With+Kurdo%C4%9Flu+Hizir%E2%80%99s+fl+eet+ready+to+sail,+the+stage+seemed+set+for+an+unprecedented+Ottoman+military+intervention+in+Southeast+Asia.+But+in+a+heartbreaking+blow+to+Sokollu%E2%80%99s+plans,+the+grand+expedition+to+Aceh+(like+so+many+of+the+grand+vizier%E2%80%99s+other+most+ambitious+projects)+was+undermined+at+the+last+minute+by+unforeseen+political+developments+elsewhere+in+the+empire.+In+this+case,+the+source+of+trouble+was+in+the+Yemeni+highlands&pg=PA128&printsec=frontcover); special thanks to the user Blair of the Alternate History forum)
So it spent 250 years in decline before finally sputtering out. That’s as old as America is.
Why do people get downvoted for saying that they dislike the Ottomans? I’ve never seen that happen maps about other historical empires
Well the peak in Europe that is, after the annexed Podolia from Poland. Their peak in Asia and over all was after Suleiman with Murad III in 1590 conquering the whole of West Iran, and bits in the caucasus.
Whilst the peak in Africa was probably somewhere before Muhammad Ali turned on them, I mean they went as far south as the Congo.
Don’t siege Vienna, take it immediately.
Largest slave empire in history
A lot of this map is just their theoretical control.
I wonder why the ottomans never managed to conquer Morocco.
The mostly f@cked up parts of the world!
Wasn’t North Africa just tributaries and vassals not direct land control?
Maghreb should be in light green. Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire#/media/File:OttomanEmpireMain.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire#/media/File:OttomanEmpireMain.png)