Even if I had no strong feelings for Labour or Greens, I would be so utterly ashamed of having Matt Goodwin as my local MP, I think I would even start door knocking for one of them.
Current_Case7806 on
This is what is being seen up and down the country. People aren’t happy with any choice…but they know which one they definitely don’t want!
JustWhy1222 on
I was convinced this was what would happen in the by election, however the bylinetimes saying it somehow makes it less likely. Their track record on predicting close votes isn’t exactly stellar.
Salty-Bid1597 on
Switching from the incumbent government party to a fringe party is not tactical voting, it’s suicidal idiocy.
Not a fan of any of these parties but clearly continuing to vote Labour is the best way of defeating Reform.
Also a great advert for Ranked Choice voting: There is clearly a huge majority against Reform but factional squabbling on the left is quite likely to mean the voters of this constituency get a Reform MP elected by a small minority. Under ranked choice they could vote for the party they actually wanted and at the very least get a left wing MP.
barnburner96 on
Doubt it. Labour supporters would rather hand it to Reform than let the Greens win.
No_Atmosphere8146 on
The forecast is:
* 30% Green
* 28% Reform
* 28% Labour
* 6% Tory
* 4% Lib Dem.
That’s 62% leftist vs 34% rightist, and yet there is a real chance of a right party taking this because the right knows how to coalesce and the left doesn’t.
Justnotstressed on
“Anti-Reform tactical voters” – i.e the electorate that don’t hate brown people and are not economically incompetent.
Less_Mess_5803 on
This is like being stuck between a rock amd a hard place. Reform or greens Jesus what a choice. Both absolutely awful.
BazzaSmith on
Labour are going to struggle really really hard in this By-election.
People outside the area need to remember that the previous Labour MP for this area was Andrew Gwynne, the former MP who was at the centre of the “Trigger me Timbers” WhatsApp group. Him leaving politics is the reason we have this By-election.
When Labour’s previous guy was a poorly vetted Racist, all the drama about Mandelson being poorly vetted and denying Andy Burnham the opportunity to run, there’s a lot more anti-Labour sentiment in this area than others in the country.
Last year this would’ve been a very safe Labour seat, I think the Labour vote may end up being even smaller than the polls suggest.
If Greens win, Reform will blame tactical voting
If Reform win, Labour and Greens will blame each other
If Labour win, It’ll be about damage control, depending on how much of their majority in one of their safest seats they’ve just lost.
Mean-Dinner-8780 on
With Labour and Greens on the same share (within the margin of error of the polls). You’re going to get both parties saying “tactically vote for us to beat Reform”. And we could see people switching in both directions cancelling each other out.
It’s much easier for Tory voters. Their tactical options are clear.
PartyPoison98 on
That, like all these constituency level polls, is a very small sample size. I wouldnt read much from this.
Those Lab, Green and LD voters surveyed is about 200 people.
Uncle_Bob2002 on
I can not *WAIT* to tick Reform on the local elections.
Ok-Employee383 on
I couldn’t decide which racist bunch of losers to vote for myself. Good thing I had a choice.
TheDiceman3 on
That will be fucking hilarious & fantastic if Hannah the plumber does it 😎
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Even if I had no strong feelings for Labour or Greens, I would be so utterly ashamed of having Matt Goodwin as my local MP, I think I would even start door knocking for one of them.
This is what is being seen up and down the country. People aren’t happy with any choice…but they know which one they definitely don’t want!
I was convinced this was what would happen in the by election, however the bylinetimes saying it somehow makes it less likely. Their track record on predicting close votes isn’t exactly stellar.
Switching from the incumbent government party to a fringe party is not tactical voting, it’s suicidal idiocy.
Not a fan of any of these parties but clearly continuing to vote Labour is the best way of defeating Reform.
Also a great advert for Ranked Choice voting: There is clearly a huge majority against Reform but factional squabbling on the left is quite likely to mean the voters of this constituency get a Reform MP elected by a small minority. Under ranked choice they could vote for the party they actually wanted and at the very least get a left wing MP.
Doubt it. Labour supporters would rather hand it to Reform than let the Greens win.
The forecast is:
* 30% Green
* 28% Reform
* 28% Labour
* 6% Tory
* 4% Lib Dem.
That’s 62% leftist vs 34% rightist, and yet there is a real chance of a right party taking this because the right knows how to coalesce and the left doesn’t.
“Anti-Reform tactical voters” – i.e the electorate that don’t hate brown people and are not economically incompetent.
This is like being stuck between a rock amd a hard place. Reform or greens Jesus what a choice. Both absolutely awful.
Labour are going to struggle really really hard in this By-election.
People outside the area need to remember that the previous Labour MP for this area was Andrew Gwynne, the former MP who was at the centre of the “Trigger me Timbers” WhatsApp group. Him leaving politics is the reason we have this By-election.
When Labour’s previous guy was a poorly vetted Racist, all the drama about Mandelson being poorly vetted and denying Andy Burnham the opportunity to run, there’s a lot more anti-Labour sentiment in this area than others in the country.
Last year this would’ve been a very safe Labour seat, I think the Labour vote may end up being even smaller than the polls suggest.
If Greens win, Reform will blame tactical voting
If Reform win, Labour and Greens will blame each other
If Labour win, It’ll be about damage control, depending on how much of their majority in one of their safest seats they’ve just lost.
With Labour and Greens on the same share (within the margin of error of the polls). You’re going to get both parties saying “tactically vote for us to beat Reform”. And we could see people switching in both directions cancelling each other out.
It’s much easier for Tory voters. Their tactical options are clear.
That, like all these constituency level polls, is a very small sample size. I wouldnt read much from this.
Those Lab, Green and LD voters surveyed is about 200 people.
I can not *WAIT* to tick Reform on the local elections.
I couldn’t decide which racist bunch of losers to vote for myself. Good thing I had a choice.
That will be fucking hilarious & fantastic if Hannah the plumber does it 😎