The UK shouldn’t join this war on Iran. I dont see any reason that we should. The US reasons for going to war seem to change by the minute, the narrative is insane. The US even told troops that they’re doing this because its “Gods Plan”
Utter insanity
The_Cruncher88 on
It seems to me that Starmer’s stance on the war by the US and Israel has been one of the most popular things he’s done since in office. The UK public are overwhelmingly against any role in this conflict, and people remember what Trump said about British service members in Afghanistan.
I hope those calling for us to join get suitably punished come election time, and fuck all the newspapers attempting to get the public behind this war, shameful.
JustWhy1222 on
Getting very tiring watching him pretend he was caught off guard by this and is doing the best he can.
He knew over a week before the strikes that they were likely to happen. As evidenced by him coming out and preemptively banning the US using our bases in a potential conflict and that every other intelligence agency in the western world was fully aware and prepared to protect their interests.
As for his weird middle ground he’s struck. Either Iran is a threat to the UK and our allies, and we should be assisting in anyway we can. Or Iran isn’t a threat and we shouldn’t. There literally isn’t room for his handwringing and incremental steps towards a credible position.
NoSwordfish1978 on
We really really need to stop referring to our relationship with the United States as the “special relationship”. It’s outdated and unhelpful.
AngryTudor1 on
Starmer was going to be criticised no matter what he did, so he might as well be criticised for doing the *right* thing
Strangest-Smell on
From Love Actually – 2003
Prime Minister: I love that word “relationship.” Covers all manner of sins, doesn’t it? I fear that this has become a bad relationship; a relationship based on the President taking exactly what he wants and casually ignoring all those things that really matter to, erm… Britain. We may be a small country, but we’re a great one, too. The country of Shakespeare, Churchill, the Beatles, Sean Connery, Harry Potter. David Beckham’s right foot. David Beckham’s left foot, come to that. And a friend who bullies us is no longer a friend. And since bullies only respond to strength, from now onward I will be prepared to be much stronger. And the President should be prepared for that.
TheMightyPrince on
Starmer: the people that voted for you hate Trump and do not support the war, stop kissing his arse in our name!
Mental-Test-7660 on
If the crew of HMS Dragon were quietly told to ‘find something that needs fixing whilst Trump fucks this up himself’ then I’m fine with that.
BenathonWrigley on
If you’re against more immigration to the U.K. then you should be against our involvement in this war.
Starmer has done well here. It’s fine to admit even if he isn’t “your guy/gal”
Gentle_Snail on
Starmer has been absolutely knocking it out the park with some of his recent statements.
Character-Border7135 on
Trump is a warmongering corrupt moron and Starmer has done right to stand up to him. Trump has the attention span of a 4 year old anyway.
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
Starmer is quite right too!
It’s the media that has a fixation on Trump’s every word….. They need to get a grip of themselves!
AfterMarketTurboJet on
He’s appeasing his muslim majority voting stronghold, and the other weak leftist fools.
PsychologySpecific16 on
It is but in the sense of military interoperability and intel sharing. Always has been nothing more nothing less.
They ruthlessly persue national interest and always have.
Sharkdogg on
I think the “special relationship” between uk and us is a shared national interest. It’s basically the “deep state” in both nations have been working together towards a shared interest since before ww1. Therefore the current president doesn’t change the shared goals of the two nations. Maybe.
LuinAelin on
To some I don’t think Stamer can win here.
Some just want whatever he does to be bad
So they’d also criticise him if he did go with the Americans on this.
Philthedrummist on
A war that didn’t need to happen, has no direction and Trump‘s own party can’t agree the length of and the recent comments about the contribution of British and European soldiers during the second Gulf War still fresh, I think this is a pretty simple decision for Starmer to make.
GooseyDuckDuck on
Online safety act aside, he’s been a decent PM. Not at the level of Blair (excluding Iraq), but so much better than the last shower of shite we had to put up with for so long.
I get that after 14 years of neglect everyone is looking for action, but I’d rather a slow and steady pace.
ttwii70 on
This is a complete goon war. Started by the biggest greatest goon ever, probably of all time, supported by drowning goons to play political points and the goon enablers in the press who back goons because they allow other goons to move all money and assets to goons. These goons either don’t think that someone has to fight and die in their goon war, or don’t care – probably both because that’s a typical goon attribute. Typical goon supporters will soon all be complaining when more refugees arrive because the goons have made their country uninhabitable and call them economic migrants/illegals. Welcome to the Goonfuck – will we never learn? Probably not, because goon supporters are happy for press goons to tell them what to think so goons can keep gooning. Price of oil is up though…..
Hollywood-is-DOA on
All wars are bankers wars, as they get seriously rich from them. So Starmer will be no get a vote “ of no confidence”, as soon as possible, if he stop us joining another major war.
LargeLetter1 on
The thing that’s made me the most angry is Kemi Badenoch yelling at Starmer to do more … with zero understanding of our defensive capabilities.
It’s appalling that someone who can’t even be bothered to be briefed on a Type 45 Destroyer wants to deploy our troops in harms way just to brown nose Trump.
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The “Special Relationship” isn’t real.
It genuinely turns my stomach whenever I hear it.
The UK shouldn’t join this war on Iran. I dont see any reason that we should. The US reasons for going to war seem to change by the minute, the narrative is insane. The US even told troops that they’re doing this because its “Gods Plan”
Utter insanity
It seems to me that Starmer’s stance on the war by the US and Israel has been one of the most popular things he’s done since in office. The UK public are overwhelmingly against any role in this conflict, and people remember what Trump said about British service members in Afghanistan.
I hope those calling for us to join get suitably punished come election time, and fuck all the newspapers attempting to get the public behind this war, shameful.
Getting very tiring watching him pretend he was caught off guard by this and is doing the best he can.
He knew over a week before the strikes that they were likely to happen. As evidenced by him coming out and preemptively banning the US using our bases in a potential conflict and that every other intelligence agency in the western world was fully aware and prepared to protect their interests.
As for his weird middle ground he’s struck. Either Iran is a threat to the UK and our allies, and we should be assisting in anyway we can. Or Iran isn’t a threat and we shouldn’t. There literally isn’t room for his handwringing and incremental steps towards a credible position.
We really really need to stop referring to our relationship with the United States as the “special relationship”. It’s outdated and unhelpful.
Starmer was going to be criticised no matter what he did, so he might as well be criticised for doing the *right* thing
From Love Actually – 2003
Prime Minister: I love that word “relationship.” Covers all manner of sins, doesn’t it? I fear that this has become a bad relationship; a relationship based on the President taking exactly what he wants and casually ignoring all those things that really matter to, erm… Britain. We may be a small country, but we’re a great one, too. The country of Shakespeare, Churchill, the Beatles, Sean Connery, Harry Potter. David Beckham’s right foot. David Beckham’s left foot, come to that. And a friend who bullies us is no longer a friend. And since bullies only respond to strength, from now onward I will be prepared to be much stronger. And the President should be prepared for that.
Starmer: the people that voted for you hate Trump and do not support the war, stop kissing his arse in our name!
If the crew of HMS Dragon were quietly told to ‘find something that needs fixing whilst Trump fucks this up himself’ then I’m fine with that.
If you’re against more immigration to the U.K. then you should be against our involvement in this war.
Starmer has done well here. It’s fine to admit even if he isn’t “your guy/gal”
Starmer has been absolutely knocking it out the park with some of his recent statements.
Trump is a warmongering corrupt moron and Starmer has done right to stand up to him. Trump has the attention span of a 4 year old anyway.
Starmer is quite right too!
It’s the media that has a fixation on Trump’s every word….. They need to get a grip of themselves!
He’s appeasing his muslim majority voting stronghold, and the other weak leftist fools.
It is but in the sense of military interoperability and intel sharing. Always has been nothing more nothing less.
They ruthlessly persue national interest and always have.
I think the “special relationship” between uk and us is a shared national interest. It’s basically the “deep state” in both nations have been working together towards a shared interest since before ww1. Therefore the current president doesn’t change the shared goals of the two nations. Maybe.
To some I don’t think Stamer can win here.
Some just want whatever he does to be bad
So they’d also criticise him if he did go with the Americans on this.
A war that didn’t need to happen, has no direction and Trump‘s own party can’t agree the length of and the recent comments about the contribution of British and European soldiers during the second Gulf War still fresh, I think this is a pretty simple decision for Starmer to make.
Online safety act aside, he’s been a decent PM. Not at the level of Blair (excluding Iraq), but so much better than the last shower of shite we had to put up with for so long.
I get that after 14 years of neglect everyone is looking for action, but I’d rather a slow and steady pace.
This is a complete goon war. Started by the biggest greatest goon ever, probably of all time, supported by drowning goons to play political points and the goon enablers in the press who back goons because they allow other goons to move all money and assets to goons. These goons either don’t think that someone has to fight and die in their goon war, or don’t care – probably both because that’s a typical goon attribute. Typical goon supporters will soon all be complaining when more refugees arrive because the goons have made their country uninhabitable and call them economic migrants/illegals. Welcome to the Goonfuck – will we never learn? Probably not, because goon supporters are happy for press goons to tell them what to think so goons can keep gooning. Price of oil is up though…..
All wars are bankers wars, as they get seriously rich from them. So Starmer will be no get a vote “ of no confidence”, as soon as possible, if he stop us joining another major war.
The thing that’s made me the most angry is Kemi Badenoch yelling at Starmer to do more … with zero understanding of our defensive capabilities.
It’s appalling that someone who can’t even be bothered to be briefed on a Type 45 Destroyer wants to deploy our troops in harms way just to brown nose Trump.