Since I’m sure we’ll see the inevitable “just do parenting. Where were the teachers?” Cries:
> According to the claim, in the summer of 2025 Van Rootselaar, then 17, opened a ChatGPT account in which she described “various scenarios involving gun violence over the course of several days”.
> This allegedly led 12 monitoring staff at ChatGPT to identify Van Rootselaar’s inquiries “as indicating an imminent risk of serious harm to others” and recommended Canadian law enforcement be notified. This was escalated to company leadership who “subsequently rebuffed their employees’ request”, the lawsuit alleges
> Instead, the account was closed, after which Van Rootselaar opened another.
> “The shooter used their second account to continue planning scenarios involving gun violence, including a mass casualty event like the Tumbler Ridge mass shooting, with ChatGPT and to receive mental health counselling and pseudo-therapy from ChatGPT,” the lawsuit alleges.
If there’s any validity to this, it’s a pretty incredible dereliction of social responsibility by the company.
bimbiheid on
The dereliction of social responsibility happened wayyyyyyy before this mentally ill fellow asked a question of ChatGPT. To be fair…
red_message on
It’s interesting how many of these stories about the harms and risks of AI boil down to the companies doing insufficient surveillance of their users, when mass surveillance is one of the main things the government wants to use AI for.
I for one insist that OpenAI engage in more surveillance, and hand over more information to the government, for the sake of public safety. What reasonable person could disagree?
ohfrackthis on
Yes, hell with openAI. They are completely corrupt.
givin_u_the_high_hat on
So OpenAI is supposed to report anything that may seem criminal? Who gets to decide what is criminal? Being in the US right now it would be frightening if they were forced to start compiling lists of “criminals” complaining about Trump. I’m not convinced thought crime is a road the world wants to go down.
acecombine on
people seem to be craving for AI driven thought police, as planned, I’d guess…
edit: aw yes, the downvote train, sorry I shared my biased views, from Europe it looks like you just found another tool to blame instead of true solutions to your problem arching through decades now…
iamthe0ther0ne on
“On March 4, OpenAI mastermind and billionaire Sam Altman met with Federal AI Minister Evan Solomon and reportedly agreed to make a number of safety changes.
The following day, Altman met with B.C. Premier David Eby and, according to Eby, made a promise to apologize to the victims of the Tumbler Ridge mass shooting.
As of March 9 no apology has been made.”
VincentNacon on
# BAN GUNS.
Don’t bullshit me about “*Rights*” and “*it’s impossible*”. I know it will work because gun-lobbists has been actively defending it.
And don’t bullshit me about “*Background Check*”, because we do have it, for years, and it still falls in the wrong hands.
AEternal1 on
Blame everything but the guns, am i right? My whole adult life since columbine(remember that?) its sue this, sue that, and nothing changes. The ONLY thing that needs to change doesnt get fixed, and in my opinion, openAI is just another scapegoat to deflect from the real problem. And by this time next year, basically nobody will remember this incident either.
Proof-Profession1722 on
Yeah, if they had a responsibility to report that person (which the article claims they do), then they are absolutely at fault. In which case, this will be settled out of court and never heard of again.
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Since I’m sure we’ll see the inevitable “just do parenting. Where were the teachers?” Cries:
> According to the claim, in the summer of 2025 Van Rootselaar, then 17, opened a ChatGPT account in which she described “various scenarios involving gun violence over the course of several days”.
> This allegedly led 12 monitoring staff at ChatGPT to identify Van Rootselaar’s inquiries “as indicating an imminent risk of serious harm to others” and recommended Canadian law enforcement be notified. This was escalated to company leadership who “subsequently rebuffed their employees’ request”, the lawsuit alleges
> Instead, the account was closed, after which Van Rootselaar opened another.
> “The shooter used their second account to continue planning scenarios involving gun violence, including a mass casualty event like the Tumbler Ridge mass shooting, with ChatGPT and to receive mental health counselling and pseudo-therapy from ChatGPT,” the lawsuit alleges.
If there’s any validity to this, it’s a pretty incredible dereliction of social responsibility by the company.
The dereliction of social responsibility happened wayyyyyyy before this mentally ill fellow asked a question of ChatGPT. To be fair…
It’s interesting how many of these stories about the harms and risks of AI boil down to the companies doing insufficient surveillance of their users, when mass surveillance is one of the main things the government wants to use AI for.
I for one insist that OpenAI engage in more surveillance, and hand over more information to the government, for the sake of public safety. What reasonable person could disagree?
Yes, hell with openAI. They are completely corrupt.
So OpenAI is supposed to report anything that may seem criminal? Who gets to decide what is criminal? Being in the US right now it would be frightening if they were forced to start compiling lists of “criminals” complaining about Trump. I’m not convinced thought crime is a road the world wants to go down.
people seem to be craving for AI driven thought police, as planned, I’d guess…
edit: aw yes, the downvote train, sorry I shared my biased views, from Europe it looks like you just found another tool to blame instead of true solutions to your problem arching through decades now…
“On March 4, OpenAI mastermind and billionaire Sam Altman met with Federal AI Minister Evan Solomon and reportedly agreed to make a number of safety changes.
The following day, Altman met with B.C. Premier David Eby and, according to Eby, made a promise to apologize to the victims of the Tumbler Ridge mass shooting.
As of March 9 no apology has been made.”
# BAN GUNS.
Don’t bullshit me about “*Rights*” and “*it’s impossible*”. I know it will work because gun-lobbists has been actively defending it.
And don’t bullshit me about “*Background Check*”, because we do have it, for years, and it still falls in the wrong hands.
Blame everything but the guns, am i right? My whole adult life since columbine(remember that?) its sue this, sue that, and nothing changes. The ONLY thing that needs to change doesnt get fixed, and in my opinion, openAI is just another scapegoat to deflect from the real problem. And by this time next year, basically nobody will remember this incident either.
Yeah, if they had a responsibility to report that person (which the article claims they do), then they are absolutely at fault. In which case, this will be settled out of court and never heard of again.