Have Republicans even read the SAVE Act that the president so desperately wants to pass?
NonPoliticalAcct3646 on
I don’t think Republicans are capable of learning that something is bad until it directly affects them.
Mike_Pences_Mother on
The SAVE act is not passing the Senate. Full stop
Megaphonestory on
I bet there is quite a few poor Republican States where next to nobody has a passport.
I405CA on
The vast majority of the public believes that voter ID is a common sense requirement.
The GOP knows that it won’t pass. But they want to use the Dems’ refusal to justify Republican claims that Dems want fraud.
What Dems should do is propose adding provisions that the GOP will hate.
Require that the government issue free passports on demand to everyone. That should include providing the photos at no charge.
State and local government should be required to provide all of the supporting paperwork at no charge to the citizen. The feds will need to pay for them.
Transportation should be provided to those who need the help.
And so on.
The Republicans will balk at all of that. The Dems can then attack the GOP for its lack of common sense.
Show what it costs to get the ID, and call it the Trump Voting Tax. That’s on top of all of the other Trump taxes that we’re being hit with. Now would be a good time to talk about Trump’s Iran gas tax on top of the Trump Voting Tax.
Athleticsbaby on
For all the Chuds insisting that most Americans “agree” with the SAVE act:
>After thanking Cornyn for his question, Durbin explained that the voter ID requirements of the bill are not satisfied by a driver’s license, but only a passport. “Fifty percent of Americans do not have a passport. Those who want to obtain it so they can vote will pay $186 and wait three or four weeks for that to happen,” Durbin said. “Secondly, you can use a birth certificate, but any person who has changed their name as a result of a marriage … has to find not only their birth certificate, but some correction of it to prove that they are eligible to register to vote.
I guarantee most Americans do not know these details about this fascist attempt to disenfranchise voters.
Cactusfan86 on
The most hilarious thing about the whole bill is I truly think it will hurt republicans more than democrats. Educated people, immigrants, urban residents-all more likely to have a passport than Jethro and his wife in rural North Carolina
WaterFriendsIV on
You have to explain it in a way that affects them. Tell him many YOUNG, liberal women voters don’t change their last names when, or if, they get legally married because it’s “woke” to keep your own name. They probably won’t have any trouble voting. But many, if not most, of the OLDER women voters have taken their husband’s last names because they’re more traditionally “conservative”. Those older voters might not be able to vote in the election. Ruh roh.
latchkey_adult on
The most important thing is to explain to supporters of this bill that a driver’s license will NOT be enough to satisfy the voter requirements to prove citizenship. A passport costs nearly $200 and takes a month (also it’s a hidden tax). You can use a birth certificate, but if you changed your name as a result of a marriage you need to have a birth certificate AND some correction of it to prove that you are eligible to register to vote. SHARE THIS INFO. Even Democrats who think this bill is no big deal are ignorant to the facts.
aleph32 on
> “It’s estimated that nine percent of the voters in America do not have the identification required by this bill. It means that, ultimately, those people will not be voting. And I think that is the ultimate goal of this administration,” Durbin continued. This was news to Cornyn, who asked if these concerns could be addressed by the amendment process. Durbin responded, “When’s the last time we amended a bill?”
Sen. Cornyn really didn’t know this basic fact about a bill he’s been pushing for (and that he’s willing to bypass the filibuster for)?
cwk415 on
Misleading headline. He did not “learn why it’s bad” because he does not see deliberately blocking eligible voters from voting for the express purpose of suppressing votes and stealing the elections (all of them) as a bad thing.
Edit typo
Crafty_Ish1973 on
Beyond the identification requirements for voter ID, the SAVE Act requires that states turn over all their voter rolls to the Department of Homeland Security on an ongoing basis AND requires frequent voter roll purges.
Republicans want the freedom to unilaterally disenfranchise millions at will so they can never lose. We can’t allow that to happen.
GestureArtist on
Americans would require a passport to vote? They would have to PAY for the passport? So they have to PAY to vote?
This is as un-American as you can fucking get.
It’s a voter tax or Poll tax. It’s a pay to play scheme.
*Poll taxes were fees required to vote in U.S. federal elections, primarily used in the South to disenfranchise African Americans and poor voters, EBSCO. They were banned in federal elections by the 24th Amendment in 1964 and declared unconstitutional in state elections by the Supreme Court in 1966*
tramplemestilsken on
The 24th amendment prevents any kind of poll tax, so just about everything in the save ACT is unconstitutional.
Ballistic-Bob on
Heritage foundation don’t want women to vote .. Techno bros don’t want women to vote … Trump doesn’t want anyone to vote …
davebrewer on
This is particularly bad for red voting areas. You know who has passports? Younger people, highly educated people, urban residents, and wealthy whites. You know who that leaves out? All those big, empty tracts of land that vote red every election.
Educational_Series68 on
Here’s my deal.
What’s the point of the real id then? I remember the CA DMV vividly where the whole change to real id was a fiasco because it couldn’t be copies of anything – real birth certificate, my social security card, and proof of residency. They were turning people away at the door because people didn’t have all 3.
And then now you get charged if you don’t have one on a domestic flight, yeah?
How much is enough? The save act is very much a joke, sure. But give everyone a passport at this point. I’m sure all my finger prints and face scans are in some government database anyway.
VictoryComfortable92 on
people need to register asap before this monster bill gets passed, after that it will be a 3 ring circus.
Reasonable-Cover-785 on
Wait so since poll tax is illegal af, that means maga government is gonna buy every citizen a passport, right??? Because that’s the only legal way for them to require it just to vote 🤷♂️ (obviously I know they’re not going to, but just wanted to point out ANY poll tax is unconstitutional.)
buswimmer21 on
The contents of the bill are obviously atrocious, but listening to all those old fucking white guys make generational decisions about our country when they won’t be around for another 10 years is equally as frustrating. Fuck every last one of these geriatrics that need to get the hell out of the way, right and left alike.
Talltyrionlannister5 on
If this passes that’s all folks
alansdn on
This isn’t democrat vs republican or illegal immigrant vs legal citizen.
This is rich vs the poor.
mattomic on
Did it change dimwit Cornyn’s mind *not* to vote for the bill? I doubt it.
jspurlin03 on
John Cornyn professes to be an experienced legislator. How can he not have seen _anything_ that explained the consequences of this act?
Like, I knew they were stupid, but to not see the first-level consequences of an act that is nearly the _whole goddamn republican platform_ right now…
Such an idiotic bill.
Also, I hope Cornyn loses his senate seat to Talarico. I hope Paxton loses to Talarico, too.
JERFFACE on
I think McConnell, as busted as he is, knows the same poor Kentucky whites that have helped him stay in office won’t be able to get this shit worked out by the election. Say what you want about that dirt bag. He plays a long game. This short sightedness could actually cost them way more. My liberal ass and my wife have the liquidity to pay $400 and have navigated getting a passport before. A lot of these MAGA folks can’t even afford groceries.
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Have Republicans even read the SAVE Act that the president so desperately wants to pass?
I don’t think Republicans are capable of learning that something is bad until it directly affects them.
The SAVE act is not passing the Senate. Full stop
I bet there is quite a few poor Republican States where next to nobody has a passport.
The vast majority of the public believes that voter ID is a common sense requirement.
The GOP knows that it won’t pass. But they want to use the Dems’ refusal to justify Republican claims that Dems want fraud.
What Dems should do is propose adding provisions that the GOP will hate.
Require that the government issue free passports on demand to everyone. That should include providing the photos at no charge.
State and local government should be required to provide all of the supporting paperwork at no charge to the citizen. The feds will need to pay for them.
Transportation should be provided to those who need the help.
And so on.
The Republicans will balk at all of that. The Dems can then attack the GOP for its lack of common sense.
Show what it costs to get the ID, and call it the Trump Voting Tax. That’s on top of all of the other Trump taxes that we’re being hit with. Now would be a good time to talk about Trump’s Iran gas tax on top of the Trump Voting Tax.
For all the Chuds insisting that most Americans “agree” with the SAVE act:
>After thanking Cornyn for his question, Durbin explained that the voter ID requirements of the bill are not satisfied by a driver’s license, but only a passport. “Fifty percent of Americans do not have a passport. Those who want to obtain it so they can vote will pay $186 and wait three or four weeks for that to happen,” Durbin said. “Secondly, you can use a birth certificate, but any person who has changed their name as a result of a marriage … has to find not only their birth certificate, but some correction of it to prove that they are eligible to register to vote.
I guarantee most Americans do not know these details about this fascist attempt to disenfranchise voters.
The most hilarious thing about the whole bill is I truly think it will hurt republicans more than democrats. Educated people, immigrants, urban residents-all more likely to have a passport than Jethro and his wife in rural North Carolina
You have to explain it in a way that affects them. Tell him many YOUNG, liberal women voters don’t change their last names when, or if, they get legally married because it’s “woke” to keep your own name. They probably won’t have any trouble voting. But many, if not most, of the OLDER women voters have taken their husband’s last names because they’re more traditionally “conservative”. Those older voters might not be able to vote in the election. Ruh roh.
The most important thing is to explain to supporters of this bill that a driver’s license will NOT be enough to satisfy the voter requirements to prove citizenship. A passport costs nearly $200 and takes a month (also it’s a hidden tax). You can use a birth certificate, but if you changed your name as a result of a marriage you need to have a birth certificate AND some correction of it to prove that you are eligible to register to vote. SHARE THIS INFO. Even Democrats who think this bill is no big deal are ignorant to the facts.
> “It’s estimated that nine percent of the voters in America do not have the identification required by this bill. It means that, ultimately, those people will not be voting. And I think that is the ultimate goal of this administration,” Durbin continued. This was news to Cornyn, who asked if these concerns could be addressed by the amendment process. Durbin responded, “When’s the last time we amended a bill?”
Sen. Cornyn really didn’t know this basic fact about a bill he’s been pushing for (and that he’s willing to bypass the filibuster for)?
Misleading headline. He did not “learn why it’s bad” because he does not see deliberately blocking eligible voters from voting for the express purpose of suppressing votes and stealing the elections (all of them) as a bad thing.
Edit typo
Beyond the identification requirements for voter ID, the SAVE Act requires that states turn over all their voter rolls to the Department of Homeland Security on an ongoing basis AND requires frequent voter roll purges.
Republicans want the freedom to unilaterally disenfranchise millions at will so they can never lose. We can’t allow that to happen.
Americans would require a passport to vote? They would have to PAY for the passport? So they have to PAY to vote?
This is as un-American as you can fucking get.
It’s a voter tax or Poll tax. It’s a pay to play scheme.
*Poll taxes were fees required to vote in U.S. federal elections, primarily used in the South to disenfranchise African Americans and poor voters, EBSCO. They were banned in federal elections by the 24th Amendment in 1964 and declared unconstitutional in state elections by the Supreme Court in 1966*
The 24th amendment prevents any kind of poll tax, so just about everything in the save ACT is unconstitutional.
Heritage foundation don’t want women to vote .. Techno bros don’t want women to vote … Trump doesn’t want anyone to vote …
This is particularly bad for red voting areas. You know who has passports? Younger people, highly educated people, urban residents, and wealthy whites. You know who that leaves out? All those big, empty tracts of land that vote red every election.
Here’s my deal.
What’s the point of the real id then? I remember the CA DMV vividly where the whole change to real id was a fiasco because it couldn’t be copies of anything – real birth certificate, my social security card, and proof of residency. They were turning people away at the door because people didn’t have all 3.
And then now you get charged if you don’t have one on a domestic flight, yeah?
How much is enough? The save act is very much a joke, sure. But give everyone a passport at this point. I’m sure all my finger prints and face scans are in some government database anyway.
people need to register asap before this monster bill gets passed, after that it will be a 3 ring circus.
Wait so since poll tax is illegal af, that means maga government is gonna buy every citizen a passport, right??? Because that’s the only legal way for them to require it just to vote 🤷♂️ (obviously I know they’re not going to, but just wanted to point out ANY poll tax is unconstitutional.)
The contents of the bill are obviously atrocious, but listening to all those old fucking white guys make generational decisions about our country when they won’t be around for another 10 years is equally as frustrating. Fuck every last one of these geriatrics that need to get the hell out of the way, right and left alike.
If this passes that’s all folks
This isn’t democrat vs republican or illegal immigrant vs legal citizen.
This is rich vs the poor.
Did it change dimwit Cornyn’s mind *not* to vote for the bill? I doubt it.
John Cornyn professes to be an experienced legislator. How can he not have seen _anything_ that explained the consequences of this act?
Like, I knew they were stupid, but to not see the first-level consequences of an act that is nearly the _whole goddamn republican platform_ right now…
Such an idiotic bill.
Also, I hope Cornyn loses his senate seat to Talarico. I hope Paxton loses to Talarico, too.
I think McConnell, as busted as he is, knows the same poor Kentucky whites that have helped him stay in office won’t be able to get this shit worked out by the election. Say what you want about that dirt bag. He plays a long game. This short sightedness could actually cost them way more. My liberal ass and my wife have the liquidity to pay $400 and have navigated getting a passport before. A lot of these MAGA folks can’t even afford groceries.