Can’t we get this technology from ukraine for free?
ShapesSong on
Did anyone read the article?
Explain if I miss something, but from what I understand, selling some of the gold is still on table – and that would yield us a almost 200mld PLN, but that money could be allocated in the next budget, so until then (1 year?) we’d need to take a 3% loan. And 3% loan for one year, comparing to 50 years feels like nothing?
I mean, I try to look objectively into both solutions for the problem and selling some gold for defence, comparing to taking a loan out for million years seems like a good alternative.
Also we’d have more authority and independence into how the money is spent, no one would need to give us permissions and money would be much cheaper. So how come this option is anti Polish?
serpenta on
The best part of “SAFE 0%” is that this scheme is borne in Russia. It’s exactly what their central bank does to keep commercial banks and the government afloat. It works like that:
* Central bank gives a loan to commercial bank, that loan has to be guaranteed with financial assets
* Commercial bank buys government bond and gives it to the central bank for guarantee
* The commercial bank then does not repay the loan
* Central bank gains government bond
* The government still has to pay interest (18%)
* The interest becomes cental bank’s profit
* They pay back the profit to the ministry of finance (they have to by law)
The banks and the government stay afloat. The only downside? Realistically, Russia has around 20% inflation.
This is how PiS plans to run our economy, after they’ve returned to power.
Staralfur_95 on
SAFE 0% is actually a good idea that’s going to remain rejected forever only because of their authors and their reputation.
I agree with Zandberg and his take that we should use both – EU SAFE for military investments and development of military industrial base, and SAFE 0 for infrastructure, such as nuclear energy, CPK (or whatever the name is these days) etc.
Sadly, once again, instead of debating solving our problems and taking the best out of both ideas, it became yet another useless political quarrel, and tool to deepen the division.
Well fucking done.
Edit: ah yes, I’m being downvoted for no reason at all, other than probably some insecure people believing I support PiS only because I agree with this single idea. Reddit moment.
andrusbaun on
Whole purpose of this alternative plan is to allow PiS politicians to embezzle/steal money.
These fuckers already used similar opportunities to steal (including Covid relief). In current context it is a high-treason.
In the event of Nawrocki’s veto people should demonstrate and demand impeachment.
wasting_time2026 on
Sorry but these two PIS ass-hats legitimately defines the stereotype of stupid fcking Polaks! I mean no disrespect to any other Pole except that MAGA loving PIS Polaks!
Thermalpoint23 on
Can someone explain why borrowing money from your own country is worse than a neighbors?
OneAndOnlyMeAndNotU on
There was no safe 0, right wing scumbags doing everything to stop poland to buy weapons in europe.
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So, pedo-fan lied? I am shocked!
Can’t we get this technology from ukraine for free?
Did anyone read the article?
Explain if I miss something, but from what I understand, selling some of the gold is still on table – and that would yield us a almost 200mld PLN, but that money could be allocated in the next budget, so until then (1 year?) we’d need to take a 3% loan. And 3% loan for one year, comparing to 50 years feels like nothing?
I mean, I try to look objectively into both solutions for the problem and selling some gold for defence, comparing to taking a loan out for million years seems like a good alternative.
Also we’d have more authority and independence into how the money is spent, no one would need to give us permissions and money would be much cheaper. So how come this option is anti Polish?
The best part of “SAFE 0%” is that this scheme is borne in Russia. It’s exactly what their central bank does to keep commercial banks and the government afloat. It works like that:
* Central bank gives a loan to commercial bank, that loan has to be guaranteed with financial assets
* Commercial bank buys government bond and gives it to the central bank for guarantee
* The commercial bank then does not repay the loan
* Central bank gains government bond
* The government still has to pay interest (18%)
* The interest becomes cental bank’s profit
* They pay back the profit to the ministry of finance (they have to by law)
The banks and the government stay afloat. The only downside? Realistically, Russia has around 20% inflation.
This is how PiS plans to run our economy, after they’ve returned to power.
SAFE 0% is actually a good idea that’s going to remain rejected forever only because of their authors and their reputation.
I agree with Zandberg and his take that we should use both – EU SAFE for military investments and development of military industrial base, and SAFE 0 for infrastructure, such as nuclear energy, CPK (or whatever the name is these days) etc.
Sadly, once again, instead of debating solving our problems and taking the best out of both ideas, it became yet another useless political quarrel, and tool to deepen the division.
Well fucking done.
Edit: ah yes, I’m being downvoted for no reason at all, other than probably some insecure people believing I support PiS only because I agree with this single idea. Reddit moment.
Whole purpose of this alternative plan is to allow PiS politicians to embezzle/steal money.
These fuckers already used similar opportunities to steal (including Covid relief). In current context it is a high-treason.
In the event of Nawrocki’s veto people should demonstrate and demand impeachment.
Sorry but these two PIS ass-hats legitimately defines the stereotype of stupid fcking Polaks! I mean no disrespect to any other Pole except that MAGA loving PIS Polaks!
Can someone explain why borrowing money from your own country is worse than a neighbors?
There was no safe 0, right wing scumbags doing everything to stop poland to buy weapons in europe.