*The government says it will access those funds regardless, channelling them through the Armed Forces Support Fund – an existing vehicle within state lender Bank Gospodarstwa Krajowego (BGK).*
Crucially, this means Poland is no longer forced to follow the SAFE programme’s “Buy European” rules or submit to Commission oversight.
Good outcome, we can buy whatever is best and run competitive procurement processes. We retain full sovereign control. Best of both worlds.
Minute_Ostrich196 on
This dude…. It’s more important to blow Americans than build military capabilities on our own.
“Why we should invent stuff, when we can buy American”
GoranjeWasHere on
Imo good decision.
We shouldn’t ceade decision making in military procurement to EU which will want to force us to buy german/french/etc. rather than what we need. We heavily invested into US/Korean platforms and suddenly changing direction makes no sense.
Secondly we can literally borrow on normal market at slightly higher rate with 0 string attached. The difference is like 0.2-0.3%. I never understood and government didn’t describe in detail why we even need that money from SAFE with strings attached to it.
If the loan was just for interest rate sure we could use it. But with strings attached ? Absolutely not.
ConnectedMistake on
It is such weird feeling to have foreign agent as “president”. God damn american dog.
Ok-Cake-4707 on
“justification” as in “populist, illogical pseudo-reasoning from a dumb thug”?
FDX_PL on
Ruska kurwa!
niemacotuwpisac on
Betrayal is betrayal.
bst01 on
To be precise, the bill he vetoed isn’t about taking out a loan, but about the method of distributing that money. I think he’s been duped into this narrative, which only serves to further undermine him.
Professional-Rest634 on
Press F to spit
Capable-Winter8074 on
Poland should stay out of SAFE—it’s just another poorly handled EU deal.
Afraid_Line_7948 on
Nawrocki says the SAFE is unconstitutional because it requires buying in Europe, and it takes away our sovereignty.
However, the SAFE is an alternative to the US Foreign Military Financing programme, which provides loans and grants to countries as long as they spend all of the money on contracts with the US defence sector.
So, guess what? Poland has been the largest recipient of FMF loans since 2020. FMF was used to finance shelf purchases from the US, including F-35s, Abrams, FGM-148 Javelins, long-, medium-, and short-range missiles, long-range radars, Apaches, combat and surveillance drones, anti-drone systems and many more.
70% of our army systems and equipment are US-made and financed with the US loans.
Nawrocki is a hypocrite. My god those people will destroy this country.
Mysterious_Web7517 on
Wrong. He veto new mechanism (which we already had in act passed 4 years ago). This mechanism would allow to spend money on army, police, infrastructure and border service.
Now gov need to use old one which can be used to fund army only.
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This is the important bit:
*The government says it will access those funds regardless, channelling them through the Armed Forces Support Fund – an existing vehicle within state lender Bank Gospodarstwa Krajowego (BGK).*
Crucially, this means Poland is no longer forced to follow the SAFE programme’s “Buy European” rules or submit to Commission oversight.
Good outcome, we can buy whatever is best and run competitive procurement processes. We retain full sovereign control. Best of both worlds.
This dude…. It’s more important to blow Americans than build military capabilities on our own.
“Why we should invent stuff, when we can buy American”
Imo good decision.
We shouldn’t ceade decision making in military procurement to EU which will want to force us to buy german/french/etc. rather than what we need. We heavily invested into US/Korean platforms and suddenly changing direction makes no sense.
Secondly we can literally borrow on normal market at slightly higher rate with 0 string attached. The difference is like 0.2-0.3%. I never understood and government didn’t describe in detail why we even need that money from SAFE with strings attached to it.
If the loan was just for interest rate sure we could use it. But with strings attached ? Absolutely not.
It is such weird feeling to have foreign agent as “president”. God damn american dog.
“justification” as in “populist, illogical pseudo-reasoning from a dumb thug”?
Ruska kurwa!
Betrayal is betrayal.
To be precise, the bill he vetoed isn’t about taking out a loan, but about the method of distributing that money. I think he’s been duped into this narrative, which only serves to further undermine him.
Press F to spit
Poland should stay out of SAFE—it’s just another poorly handled EU deal.
Nawrocki says the SAFE is unconstitutional because it requires buying in Europe, and it takes away our sovereignty.
However, the SAFE is an alternative to the US Foreign Military Financing programme, which provides loans and grants to countries as long as they spend all of the money on contracts with the US defence sector.
So, guess what? Poland has been the largest recipient of FMF loans since 2020. FMF was used to finance shelf purchases from the US, including F-35s, Abrams, FGM-148 Javelins, long-, medium-, and short-range missiles, long-range radars, Apaches, combat and surveillance drones, anti-drone systems and many more.
70% of our army systems and equipment are US-made and financed with the US loans.
Nawrocki is a hypocrite. My god those people will destroy this country.
Wrong. He veto new mechanism (which we already had in act passed 4 years ago). This mechanism would allow to spend money on army, police, infrastructure and border service.
Now gov need to use old one which can be used to fund army only.