I wonder how many resumes are now put together with a heavy reliance on LLMs.
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InTheEndEntropyWins on
It hasn’t really changed, in the past they just used word filters. At least the AI is more intelligent.
Ravoss1 on
I skim read all 250+ I get for jobs. I feel like I owe it to folks.
reddit_user13 on
That’s why I always send 4.
venividiavicii on
Yeah but 95% are just slop
buttflapper444 on
That’s because there are no jobs. That’s the simple fact of the matter. 90% of Jobs are fake or recurring schedule, so they don’t actually exist. The remaining 10% of jobs that do exist are swamped with applications, anywhere from 2x to 200x over what the job poster expected. Some of those jobs have already been filled, and they haven’t taken the posting down yet. And for the very very small I would say 1% of jobs that people are actually recruiting for actively, it’s a lottery. Whoever gets their fastest, whoever has the buzz words
Edit: I’m specifically talking about white collar work in the USA.
Dry_Inspection_4583 on
Pdf only, white text with prompt injection. I’m employed.
randomthrowaway9796 on
I’m surprised 25% make it. That number seems high
tylerthe-theatre on
Yeah we know, this isn’t a new thing. Probably been going on for almost a decade
ExpensiveBookkeeper3 on
So glad I’m in a union
mr_butterscotch on
I read each and every cover letter that reaches me. On the flip side, the amount of people that are blatantly getting AI to write it for them is staggering.
Boys4Ever on
Key word search why key words need to be added to resumes
sturgill_homme on
Interviewer: How familiar are you with AEO?
Me: Well, I mean, I got this interview soooooo…
StrongBad_IsMad on
I can imagine it. I was just temporarily the hiring manager for a role my boss has posted while she was on vacation. Her ask to me was to review the resumes and give first pass on consideration so that we could schedule some initial screening interviews. I only saw four applications pop up in our system. I find it hard to believe that that’s the only number of people who applied.
i_amtheice on
Every job I’ve received in my adult life has been through someone I know. I haven’t gotten a job from a cold call or a random application or resume in two decades.
You know this has been happening for years and not just now. Automated screening has been a thing long before the last few year’s AI hype. All these articles talk like there was no automation without gen ai.
jam_rok on
I think another way to look at it is that 70% of people are applying for a job in a big company.
I don’t think that small businesses normally do this unless I’m mistaken.
PhotoPhenik on
“Your HR department sucks, and it’s killing your business” would have been a better title.
eliota1 on
It used to be that listing a job brought in 10s of resumes. Note it’s hundreds and most of them are unqualified. ATS systems have been automatically eliminating resumes for at least 15 years.
doctor_x on
I’ve been trying to fill a position at work. The portal we use creates an AI summary of the applicants resume that’s pretty accurate, but I make a point of reading each one, regardless. After a while, you get pretty good at spotting the resumes that were created using AI.
bicx on
On the flip side, I’m trying to hire people and literally dealing with an enormous amount of fake applicants trying to use AI in real time to pass interviews. Look up the North Korean IT worker scam. It’s a huge problem in tech hiring right now. They perform the interviews with deepfake videos or someone posing as a U.S. citizen for a remote role, then once they’re hired, the work is done by North Koreans to launder money back home, bypassing sanctions.
Most of them are easy to spot. Others aren’t.
Benji_Suite on
I thought it was 99.9%
mezcalbomb on
I wonder what companies that do this I made maybe 50 hirings last 3 years and involved in maybe a 100 and have never used AI to choose candidates and move through steps.
checker280 on
And when they finally reach a human it’s a recruiter who doesn’t understand the industry.
TONKAHANAH on
Honestly I havent been job searching in a while but I suspect the real game hasnt changed that much. You have to do mix of old and new practices. Its useless to do only the boomer thing and walk in some place, ask for an application and shake a few hands, its also useless to just spam apply job listings online. Find a few places to target, apply online as a prerequisite simply to just say you did and have your data in the system, then start hunting down the person you need to get in touch with over at whatever place you applied for and start reaching out to them as much as you can before you breach an appropriate level of professionalism.
i suspect its still harder to get by this way. in the past this was almost a sure fire way to get a job assuming you were not underwhelming unqualified for the position you were trying to get. Getting in touch with some one “physically” is still the best way to get your foot in a door, that is still true, I imagine its just gotten harder and more people have learned how to do that and do it better so there is probably more real competition.
After_Alps_5826 on
My partner is a recruiter for a large international tech company. She reads resumes for hours each day. This sounds overblown.
raiansar on
we built AI to screen out 75% of applicants, then complain there’s a talent shortage. make it make sense
merRedditor on
Everyone is scrambling trying to figure out what they’re doing wrong in the worst market for tech in anyone’s lifetime.
It’s so bad that nepotism is openly being recommended as the path forward. Like, just know somebody.
I’d like to see actual stats on the tech employment rate in particular. Not the broader employment rate where they include gig work and the booming health sector.
Marigold1976 on
I’m a hiring manager who gets the resumes after the HR churn. They honestly send me too many. I read them until I have solid candidates to call for phone screens, many come from internal recommendations. I don’t have time to read them all. No organization anywhere has the time to read them all, AI or not. Hard facts.
btoned on
Ah so now the LLMs get to train on even more personal details about us if we don’t have existing social media profiles.
Fantastic.
PostPostMinimalist on
Next step is interviews being replaced with AI (in progress)
koolaidismything on
My CV was just “AI rules and I can prove it” x50 and now I run Google.
frozen_mouse on
Hasn’t this been the case for over a decade? I think that a lot of people don’t understand that you shouldn’t submit the same resume over and over again, you will want to tweak it slightly to include some of the keywords from the job posting.
BankshotMcG on
Well then why are we even doing it this way. Just have the world-killing LLMs sweep LinkedIn for their preferred candidates and save me the labor of applying to get shot in the gates 3/4 of the time.
peilearceann on
Was the same 10 years ago.. lol 🥲
Xero_id on
If Ai is the norm for looking at resumes, having resumes built by Ai only seems fair.
DigitalAxel on
I could’ve guessed this. I mean, I know I dont have much going for me but 5 years? Who knows how many applications? Not a single real response, let alone Interview?
Oh I wish I had connections. Running out of time.
landdon on
What do you need to do exactly to get looks using AI?
hvacsnack on
I mean I get thousands for open roles. No way to read them all
deadra_axilea on
Sounds like lazy doublespeak to justify destroying the social fabric of our society.
Put in 500 applications last year with 27 years of experience in engineering. Got like 4 interviews in 6 months. So either they’re algorithms are completely ageist, there were no actual jobs, or their AI tools are bullshit.
Probably all of the above though. Have to sell those numbers. Look at how popular your job search was?!? It had 1,000’s of applicants! Like, wtf do we have to be influencers on top of whatever shitty jobs we do now? Fuck this timeline.
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This is nothing new. We just called it ML 5 years ago.
For a decade now, the best way to get an interview was to basically copy all the buzzwords out of the PD and find a way to stick them in your resume.
I’ve applied to some jobs, but AI decided that my personality wasn’t good enough.. Dystopian future here we go!
https://archive.is/ikGjJ ✌🏽
I wonder how many resumes are now put together with a heavy reliance on LLMs.
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It hasn’t really changed, in the past they just used word filters. At least the AI is more intelligent.
I skim read all 250+ I get for jobs. I feel like I owe it to folks.
That’s why I always send 4.
Yeah but 95% are just slop
That’s because there are no jobs. That’s the simple fact of the matter. 90% of Jobs are fake or recurring schedule, so they don’t actually exist. The remaining 10% of jobs that do exist are swamped with applications, anywhere from 2x to 200x over what the job poster expected. Some of those jobs have already been filled, and they haven’t taken the posting down yet. And for the very very small I would say 1% of jobs that people are actually recruiting for actively, it’s a lottery. Whoever gets their fastest, whoever has the buzz words
Edit: I’m specifically talking about white collar work in the USA.
Pdf only, white text with prompt injection. I’m employed.
I’m surprised 25% make it. That number seems high
Yeah we know, this isn’t a new thing. Probably been going on for almost a decade
So glad I’m in a union
I read each and every cover letter that reaches me. On the flip side, the amount of people that are blatantly getting AI to write it for them is staggering.
Key word search why key words need to be added to resumes
Interviewer: How familiar are you with AEO?
Me: Well, I mean, I got this interview soooooo…
I can imagine it. I was just temporarily the hiring manager for a role my boss has posted while she was on vacation. Her ask to me was to review the resumes and give first pass on consideration so that we could schedule some initial screening interviews. I only saw four applications pop up in our system. I find it hard to believe that that’s the only number of people who applied.
Every job I’ve received in my adult life has been through someone I know. I haven’t gotten a job from a cold call or a random application or resume in two decades.
[https://resume.idontknowhatimdoing.com/](https://resume.idontknowhatimdoing.com/) (fully free)
You know this has been happening for years and not just now. Automated screening has been a thing long before the last few year’s AI hype. All these articles talk like there was no automation without gen ai.
I think another way to look at it is that 70% of people are applying for a job in a big company.
I don’t think that small businesses normally do this unless I’m mistaken.
“Your HR department sucks, and it’s killing your business” would have been a better title.
It used to be that listing a job brought in 10s of resumes. Note it’s hundreds and most of them are unqualified. ATS systems have been automatically eliminating resumes for at least 15 years.
I’ve been trying to fill a position at work. The portal we use creates an AI summary of the applicants resume that’s pretty accurate, but I make a point of reading each one, regardless. After a while, you get pretty good at spotting the resumes that were created using AI.
On the flip side, I’m trying to hire people and literally dealing with an enormous amount of fake applicants trying to use AI in real time to pass interviews. Look up the North Korean IT worker scam. It’s a huge problem in tech hiring right now. They perform the interviews with deepfake videos or someone posing as a U.S. citizen for a remote role, then once they’re hired, the work is done by North Koreans to launder money back home, bypassing sanctions.
Most of them are easy to spot. Others aren’t.
I thought it was 99.9%
I wonder what companies that do this I made maybe 50 hirings last 3 years and involved in maybe a 100 and have never used AI to choose candidates and move through steps.
And when they finally reach a human it’s a recruiter who doesn’t understand the industry.
Honestly I havent been job searching in a while but I suspect the real game hasnt changed that much. You have to do mix of old and new practices. Its useless to do only the boomer thing and walk in some place, ask for an application and shake a few hands, its also useless to just spam apply job listings online. Find a few places to target, apply online as a prerequisite simply to just say you did and have your data in the system, then start hunting down the person you need to get in touch with over at whatever place you applied for and start reaching out to them as much as you can before you breach an appropriate level of professionalism.
i suspect its still harder to get by this way. in the past this was almost a sure fire way to get a job assuming you were not underwhelming unqualified for the position you were trying to get. Getting in touch with some one “physically” is still the best way to get your foot in a door, that is still true, I imagine its just gotten harder and more people have learned how to do that and do it better so there is probably more real competition.
My partner is a recruiter for a large international tech company. She reads resumes for hours each day. This sounds overblown.
we built AI to screen out 75% of applicants, then complain there’s a talent shortage. make it make sense
Everyone is scrambling trying to figure out what they’re doing wrong in the worst market for tech in anyone’s lifetime.
It’s so bad that nepotism is openly being recommended as the path forward. Like, just know somebody.
I’d like to see actual stats on the tech employment rate in particular. Not the broader employment rate where they include gig work and the booming health sector.
I’m a hiring manager who gets the resumes after the HR churn. They honestly send me too many. I read them until I have solid candidates to call for phone screens, many come from internal recommendations. I don’t have time to read them all. No organization anywhere has the time to read them all, AI or not. Hard facts.
Ah so now the LLMs get to train on even more personal details about us if we don’t have existing social media profiles.
Fantastic.
Next step is interviews being replaced with AI (in progress)
My CV was just “AI rules and I can prove it” x50 and now I run Google.
Hasn’t this been the case for over a decade? I think that a lot of people don’t understand that you shouldn’t submit the same resume over and over again, you will want to tweak it slightly to include some of the keywords from the job posting.
Well then why are we even doing it this way. Just have the world-killing LLMs sweep LinkedIn for their preferred candidates and save me the labor of applying to get shot in the gates 3/4 of the time.
Was the same 10 years ago.. lol 🥲
If Ai is the norm for looking at resumes, having resumes built by Ai only seems fair.
I could’ve guessed this. I mean, I know I dont have much going for me but 5 years? Who knows how many applications? Not a single real response, let alone Interview?
Oh I wish I had connections. Running out of time.
What do you need to do exactly to get looks using AI?
I mean I get thousands for open roles. No way to read them all
Sounds like lazy doublespeak to justify destroying the social fabric of our society.
Put in 500 applications last year with 27 years of experience in engineering. Got like 4 interviews in 6 months. So either they’re algorithms are completely ageist, there were no actual jobs, or their AI tools are bullshit.
Probably all of the above though. Have to sell those numbers. Look at how popular your job search was?!? It had 1,000’s of applicants! Like, wtf do we have to be influencers on top of whatever shitty jobs we do now? Fuck this timeline.
75%? More like 99%