Somehow the problem with mass surveillance isn’t the stupendous invasion of the population’s privacy, but that someone besides this government might have ownership of that data.
Alone-Movie4291 on
Yeah this makes no sense, we need secure in country ownership, absolutely baffled we have not tried to develop something ourselves, wouldn’t be rocket science to deliver a solution.
soulsteela on
Ahh but money you see old chap. Hope this clears things up for you.
InfamousEvening2 on
The same fucking MOD that’s behind our ‘shared’ Nuclear Deterrent ? That fucking MOD ? The same fucking department that lobbied for a ground role in Iraq and then briefed against Labour when it all went to shit ? That fucking MOD ?
laredocronk on
> “Allowing a single entity, foreign or domestic, to have such far-reaching, pervasive access is inherently dangerous. How our national cybersecurity centre has allowed this beggars belief.”
The thing is, that ship sailed a long time ago ago. I know it’s trendy to hate on Palantir, but if we’re genuinely concerned about foreign entities having access to our information then the likes of Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle and Google have *far* more access and control. And in many cases, they actually do hold the data. Microsoft could basically shut down the UK tomorrow if they decided to – or were forced to by the US government. Never mind that fact that basically all of our hardware is black boxes built by US companies.
But trying to change that is going to cost hundreds of billions of pounds, and no government is even going to consider it.
pitiless on
Of course it is!
As is Musk getting his business involved in our electric grid.
Absolute madness on behalf of the current government. A breathtaking lack of foresight…
Cynical_Classicist on
Our government rolling over to Palantir is a real disgrace. These people are pretty openly fascists.
Raven586 on
I remember the days when you needed to be secure against China and Russia. Not your so called allies. I guess this Oligarchy in the 21st century.
SHTF_yesitdid on
How long before Peter Thiel is crowned as the King?
tylerthe-theatre on
Keep those creepy weirdos far away from our government, the NHS and anything British
MogwaiYT on
Peter “Antichrist” Thiel only has our best interests at heart. Honest.
The future really is bleak.
amanisnotaface on
Glad to see the tide turning against this whole thing a bit more. Long may it continue.
ionetic on
Whoever invited them in is the real threat to UK’s security.
BoofmasterZero on
Wait I think the government are starting to wake up and realize things
cackiwhack on
Least surprised I’ve been after reading a headline this century.
Mass_Spr_Sknk on
Palantir UK’s CEO is Oswald Mosley’s Grandson, Louis Mosley.
😂 😂 😂
pot_sniffer on
Palantir is looking more and more like a threat to all of humanity
BenisDDD69 on
It’s going to be fine, guys. Starmer has a great track record with regards to the outcomes of ignoring advice from people.
pajamakitten on
We have had two weeks of evidence that the US is not our friend, ally or whatever word you want to use. This is not like Thatcher and Reagan or Blair and Bush anymore; the special relationship is dead under Trump. We need to move away from them as fast as is reasonably possible and make no apologies for it. The US should no longer have any serious involvement in our defence systems or vital infrastructure. If we want to help improve our economy and to improve employment then setting up our version of Palantir would go some way to doing that.
Most of the UKs defence infrastructure is predicated on the US being our forever friend. Changing this is a hard ask, but it’s got to happen.
(Similarly to how the UK’s changed allies from the German states to France around the turn of the 20th century. Unfortunately, disentangling from the US is a bit harder than the royals having to cross half their family off the christmas card list).
ddatmmu on
Palantir lobbied the right people for it. Those people need to be investigated and sent to jail.
cad4mac on
I can’t find the source but I’m like 90% certain these contracts were signed BEFORE the election and don’t expire until 27/28?
This government really needs to point out shit it didn’t start and now has to fix. As someone who has seen government contracts these things are riddled with cancellation clauses and fines.
But we need to get them out regardless. Hopefully something is in the works (which wouldn’t be public until it’s been executed)
Jensen1994 on
Are we saying MS and AWS don’t have the ability to data scrape and aggregate?
CooperAXE on
Please get this Palantir parasite out of anything to do with the UK.
dick_piana on
Palantir will soon be in every aspect of UK life. They’re already in the NHS, HMRC, MOD, Police and Local Authorities; there’s not much left. What safeguards do we have in place to prevent Palantir from undermining agreements and UK interests at the behest of the US government ?
MAXSuicide on
Was insane to give them contracts *after* Trump bowls in and openly states his intention to encourage coups in Europe.
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Somehow the problem with mass surveillance isn’t the stupendous invasion of the population’s privacy, but that someone besides this government might have ownership of that data.
Yeah this makes no sense, we need secure in country ownership, absolutely baffled we have not tried to develop something ourselves, wouldn’t be rocket science to deliver a solution.
Ahh but money you see old chap. Hope this clears things up for you.
The same fucking MOD that’s behind our ‘shared’ Nuclear Deterrent ? That fucking MOD ? The same fucking department that lobbied for a ground role in Iraq and then briefed against Labour when it all went to shit ? That fucking MOD ?
> “Allowing a single entity, foreign or domestic, to have such far-reaching, pervasive access is inherently dangerous. How our national cybersecurity centre has allowed this beggars belief.”
The thing is, that ship sailed a long time ago ago. I know it’s trendy to hate on Palantir, but if we’re genuinely concerned about foreign entities having access to our information then the likes of Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle and Google have *far* more access and control. And in many cases, they actually do hold the data. Microsoft could basically shut down the UK tomorrow if they decided to – or were forced to by the US government. Never mind that fact that basically all of our hardware is black boxes built by US companies.
But trying to change that is going to cost hundreds of billions of pounds, and no government is even going to consider it.
Of course it is!
As is Musk getting his business involved in our electric grid.
Absolute madness on behalf of the current government. A breathtaking lack of foresight…
Our government rolling over to Palantir is a real disgrace. These people are pretty openly fascists.
I remember the days when you needed to be secure against China and Russia. Not your so called allies. I guess this Oligarchy in the 21st century.
How long before Peter Thiel is crowned as the King?
Keep those creepy weirdos far away from our government, the NHS and anything British
Peter “Antichrist” Thiel only has our best interests at heart. Honest.
The future really is bleak.
Glad to see the tide turning against this whole thing a bit more. Long may it continue.
Whoever invited them in is the real threat to UK’s security.
Wait I think the government are starting to wake up and realize things
Least surprised I’ve been after reading a headline this century.
Palantir UK’s CEO is Oswald Mosley’s Grandson, Louis Mosley.
😂 😂 😂
Palantir is looking more and more like a threat to all of humanity
It’s going to be fine, guys. Starmer has a great track record with regards to the outcomes of ignoring advice from people.
We have had two weeks of evidence that the US is not our friend, ally or whatever word you want to use. This is not like Thatcher and Reagan or Blair and Bush anymore; the special relationship is dead under Trump. We need to move away from them as fast as is reasonably possible and make no apologies for it. The US should no longer have any serious involvement in our defence systems or vital infrastructure. If we want to help improve our economy and to improve employment then setting up our version of Palantir would go some way to doing that.
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-palantir-taking-over-our-public-services
Most of the UKs defence infrastructure is predicated on the US being our forever friend. Changing this is a hard ask, but it’s got to happen.
(Similarly to how the UK’s changed allies from the German states to France around the turn of the 20th century. Unfortunately, disentangling from the US is a bit harder than the royals having to cross half their family off the christmas card list).
Palantir lobbied the right people for it. Those people need to be investigated and sent to jail.
I can’t find the source but I’m like 90% certain these contracts were signed BEFORE the election and don’t expire until 27/28?
This government really needs to point out shit it didn’t start and now has to fix. As someone who has seen government contracts these things are riddled with cancellation clauses and fines.
But we need to get them out regardless. Hopefully something is in the works (which wouldn’t be public until it’s been executed)
Are we saying MS and AWS don’t have the ability to data scrape and aggregate?
Please get this Palantir parasite out of anything to do with the UK.
Palantir will soon be in every aspect of UK life. They’re already in the NHS, HMRC, MOD, Police and Local Authorities; there’s not much left. What safeguards do we have in place to prevent Palantir from undermining agreements and UK interests at the behest of the US government ?
Was insane to give them contracts *after* Trump bowls in and openly states his intention to encourage coups in Europe.