It’s amazing how Trump can openly insult the UK, our government, and the memories of soldiers who have died fighting for their interests – yet we still follow their call every time. Why are we following this illegal, messy, unpopular war under the false pretence of “defensive operations”?
andykkkkk on
Like why can’t we have a coherent message here? One day we make a big statement saying they can’t use them but then a week later it’s completely reversed
Valcenia on
Sure enough, any semblance of courage Starmer had in standing up to Trump and not getting the UK *directly* involved in this conflict has melted away. Was perhaps foolish to think his cowardly tendencies wouldn’t get the better of him and see him kowtow to the US sooner rather than later. Spain has shown that standing up to Trump on this is more than feasible, but no, Starmer would rather ensure the UK is a good little vassal state.
It’s vile enough involving the UK in another illegal war in the Middle East, but this puts *all of us* in so much more danger, and for what? The interests of Israel and the US?
RoyalJacko on
The way Trump has talked about us and singled us out while using our bases – now we give in to even more of his demands. How long do you think it will take for him to talk more crap about us? We have a humiliation ritual.
bigonebitey99 on
Starmer was doing so well on this issue for the past 2/3 weeks, why does he have to ruin it again with another u-turn
OneAlexander on
Feels like we maybe should have waited until Dragon was actually in position and we could fully defend Cyprus before publicly announcing this…
AnxiousCells on
Where is Starmer’s backbone? I don’t want to be involved in an illegal war or coerced into it. I understand oil prices are sky rocketing but that’s not our business to fix. USA created this mess, they have won the war, haven’t they? They said they didn’t need us, and so we can leave them be to sort it out.
Necessary-Product361 on
Trump spits in our face and all Starmer does is swallow
Over-Key-1691 on
Fuck that, tell these cunts to fuck off after that orange motherfuckers comments.
Get them the fuck out of our bases.
450 + British soldiers died fighting for them in Afghanistan and Iraq. Absolutely never again.
alexmlb3598 on
Well he found a way to mess this up. Don’t think anyone had any issues with only allowing defensive operations, but allowing offensive actions is going to get us involved. And this is after that orange turnip insulted our nation’s troops of cowering behind the front lines, said of Kier that ‘he’s no Churchill’, and accusing of NATO not getting involved to help the war aims he started, but also said he doesn’t need help bc it’s won.
If I was on Akrotiri, Dhekelia, or any other UK base in the Middle East area, I’d be VERY worried. This is gonna give Iran carte blanche to attack any UK base.
West-Holiday-8425 on
Oh my fucking god he’s such a fucking walkover. He lets Trump shittalk him and our entire country over and over, berate us, disrespect our troops, people, opinions and culture and then after finally seeming to grow a fucking spine he crumbles after like two days, just after people start to respect him for not kowtowing to the US for the first time.
Inspector_Frog on
I don’t see how this changes anything. Starmer allowed offensive operations from UK airbases by the US weeks ago so long as the targets were drone or missile launch sites.
KingThorongil on
This is still within the scope of what he allowed earlier: defensive strikes at locations Iran is launching missiles from.
Armodeen on
Please please just tell Trump to fuck off, it’s what the British people want according to polling. The electorate has been very clear that they want no part of this war of aggression.
hello050 on
Doesn’t this mean Iran can now strike the British bases? I’m not sure Iran has missiles that travel that far, but I believe the bases are now a legitimate target.
Working-Lifeguard587 on
Let’s get this straight. We are meant to be working towards de-escalation so we can end this farce, but instead we are making it easier for the Americans to strike Iran. Providing military infrastructure for strikes is a significant step toward war, not away from it. It draws the UK deeper into the conflict. It removes a layer of restraint , and undermines our ability to be a moderating influence. Absolute joke. But hey , it’s the same government that is selling weapons to Israel while it is carrying out a genocide. I hope they get totally wiped out in the elections.
Skippymabob on
For all those in this thread claiming Starmer was good up until now, or that this is a U-turn etc.
This is the same policy of defence we have had for a week, nothing has changed
thecheesecreature on
Oh for fuck sake, let the orange clown bury himself, why get involved
mattymattymatty96 on
Starmer literally has a trump card to stop the bombing. We have the only airfield in Europe with a runway capable of launching the Bombers.
Withdraw their access
Working-Lifeguard587 on
Starmer put us all at risk – in order to participate in an illegal war. Iran has said that opening its bases to US attacks will be judged as direct involvement, raising the stakes in an already volatile standoff.
Cheese_Dinosaur on
This headline genuinely just made me feel very sad…😔
qweezy_uk on
Great, we’re getting involved in the forever war.
Forcing the Strait open just removes the only way this could end. With too much political/economic pressure on Trump to continue.
Without actually occupying basically the entire coastline permanently, how is the Strait ever going to be safe now?
LlAnKyLiAm on
This will only embolden trump, giving the appearance of allied support and extend the duration of the war and therefore the closure of the strait. America and isreal could bomb iran for years and it wouldn’t make a difference. Absolutely disastrous decision as usual from starmer
oh_no3000 on
I live near Fairford. I’ve seen the B1s and the b52s flying overhead really rather regularly, if I don’t see them I hear them.
I have to ask is this frequency of strikes really defensive?
ok_alsodot11 on
These comments suggest people are a bit thick. This has stopped being about supporting the US or not (and in an ideal world, we shouldn’t) and started being about a genuine crisis for the UK and much of the world. Starmer can’t just ignore it.
Illustrated-Society on
Spineless Starmer, Trump has done nothing but insult this country and the wider continent, fuck that big orange dickhead.
mockfu on
Stop pretending diplomacy works with Trump and tell the US to F**K OFF. They have betrayed us, they are the fucking enemy until they show they no longer are, tell them to get f*cked like Canada did.
You know, Canada? The place with far more to lose than the UK but didn’t bend over and take it again and again and is now considered one of the most popular countries in the world signing trade deals etc left and right. British cowardice when it comes to Trump is disgraceful and more harmful than anything the demented nut case could do to Britain.
Fit_Swordfish5248 on
Never in the 15 years that I’ve been on Reddit have I seen so many people come together with the same opinion on a matter.
Proud of you lot and resisting that orange wank stains push to drag us all into an unnecessary war!
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It’s amazing how Trump can openly insult the UK, our government, and the memories of soldiers who have died fighting for their interests – yet we still follow their call every time. Why are we following this illegal, messy, unpopular war under the false pretence of “defensive operations”?
Like why can’t we have a coherent message here? One day we make a big statement saying they can’t use them but then a week later it’s completely reversed
Sure enough, any semblance of courage Starmer had in standing up to Trump and not getting the UK *directly* involved in this conflict has melted away. Was perhaps foolish to think his cowardly tendencies wouldn’t get the better of him and see him kowtow to the US sooner rather than later. Spain has shown that standing up to Trump on this is more than feasible, but no, Starmer would rather ensure the UK is a good little vassal state.
It’s vile enough involving the UK in another illegal war in the Middle East, but this puts *all of us* in so much more danger, and for what? The interests of Israel and the US?
The way Trump has talked about us and singled us out while using our bases – now we give in to even more of his demands. How long do you think it will take for him to talk more crap about us? We have a humiliation ritual.
Starmer was doing so well on this issue for the past 2/3 weeks, why does he have to ruin it again with another u-turn
Feels like we maybe should have waited until Dragon was actually in position and we could fully defend Cyprus before publicly announcing this…
Where is Starmer’s backbone? I don’t want to be involved in an illegal war or coerced into it. I understand oil prices are sky rocketing but that’s not our business to fix. USA created this mess, they have won the war, haven’t they? They said they didn’t need us, and so we can leave them be to sort it out.
Trump spits in our face and all Starmer does is swallow
Fuck that, tell these cunts to fuck off after that orange motherfuckers comments.
Get them the fuck out of our bases.
450 + British soldiers died fighting for them in Afghanistan and Iraq. Absolutely never again.
Well he found a way to mess this up. Don’t think anyone had any issues with only allowing defensive operations, but allowing offensive actions is going to get us involved. And this is after that orange turnip insulted our nation’s troops of cowering behind the front lines, said of Kier that ‘he’s no Churchill’, and accusing of NATO not getting involved to help the war aims he started, but also said he doesn’t need help bc it’s won.
If I was on Akrotiri, Dhekelia, or any other UK base in the Middle East area, I’d be VERY worried. This is gonna give Iran carte blanche to attack any UK base.
Oh my fucking god he’s such a fucking walkover. He lets Trump shittalk him and our entire country over and over, berate us, disrespect our troops, people, opinions and culture and then after finally seeming to grow a fucking spine he crumbles after like two days, just after people start to respect him for not kowtowing to the US for the first time.
I don’t see how this changes anything. Starmer allowed offensive operations from UK airbases by the US weeks ago so long as the targets were drone or missile launch sites.
This is still within the scope of what he allowed earlier: defensive strikes at locations Iran is launching missiles from.
Please please just tell Trump to fuck off, it’s what the British people want according to polling. The electorate has been very clear that they want no part of this war of aggression.
Doesn’t this mean Iran can now strike the British bases? I’m not sure Iran has missiles that travel that far, but I believe the bases are now a legitimate target.
Let’s get this straight. We are meant to be working towards de-escalation so we can end this farce, but instead we are making it easier for the Americans to strike Iran. Providing military infrastructure for strikes is a significant step toward war, not away from it. It draws the UK deeper into the conflict. It removes a layer of restraint , and undermines our ability to be a moderating influence. Absolute joke. But hey , it’s the same government that is selling weapons to Israel while it is carrying out a genocide. I hope they get totally wiped out in the elections.
For all those in this thread claiming Starmer was good up until now, or that this is a U-turn etc.
This is the same policy of defence we have had for a week, nothing has changed
Oh for fuck sake, let the orange clown bury himself, why get involved
Starmer literally has a trump card to stop the bombing. We have the only airfield in Europe with a runway capable of launching the Bombers.
Withdraw their access
Starmer put us all at risk – in order to participate in an illegal war. Iran has said that opening its bases to US attacks will be judged as direct involvement, raising the stakes in an already volatile standoff.
This headline genuinely just made me feel very sad…😔
Great, we’re getting involved in the forever war.
Forcing the Strait open just removes the only way this could end. With too much political/economic pressure on Trump to continue.
Without actually occupying basically the entire coastline permanently, how is the Strait ever going to be safe now?
This will only embolden trump, giving the appearance of allied support and extend the duration of the war and therefore the closure of the strait. America and isreal could bomb iran for years and it wouldn’t make a difference. Absolutely disastrous decision as usual from starmer
I live near Fairford. I’ve seen the B1s and the b52s flying overhead really rather regularly, if I don’t see them I hear them.
I have to ask is this frequency of strikes really defensive?
These comments suggest people are a bit thick. This has stopped being about supporting the US or not (and in an ideal world, we shouldn’t) and started being about a genuine crisis for the UK and much of the world. Starmer can’t just ignore it.
Spineless Starmer, Trump has done nothing but insult this country and the wider continent, fuck that big orange dickhead.
Stop pretending diplomacy works with Trump and tell the US to F**K OFF. They have betrayed us, they are the fucking enemy until they show they no longer are, tell them to get f*cked like Canada did.
You know, Canada? The place with far more to lose than the UK but didn’t bend over and take it again and again and is now considered one of the most popular countries in the world signing trade deals etc left and right. British cowardice when it comes to Trump is disgraceful and more harmful than anything the demented nut case could do to Britain.
Never in the 15 years that I’ve been on Reddit have I seen so many people come together with the same opinion on a matter.
Proud of you lot and resisting that orange wank stains push to drag us all into an unnecessary war!
Well done UK and our EU friends on this issue.
Fuck Trump