Anyone calling Jews, especially British Jews, “Jewish supremacist” is an antisemite, for the same reason calling British Muslims “Islamic supremacists” is Islamophobic.
adultintheroom_ on
It’s a smear! They’re only antizionist, they make a point of saying so.
> “It’s us who have been scared into using the word zionists because of the fear of being labelled antisemites”
Oh.
Archistotle on
>Green activists
If they’re in the WhatsApp groups, that could mean anything from an MP or a party official, to a member who went doorknocking once.
Still a member saying these things in a group chat, obviously, but the question is whether or not the party condones calling Jews abominations, which… I mean, the article itself very clearly says they don’t, and told their members they didn’t some time ago.
navagon on
Greens started out being a whacky unelectable cult. Like Scientology with trees and slightly more politics. I guess the big difference now is that they no longer appear to be unelectable.
cheeseley6 on
This is what happens when you set out to attract the Corbynites.
JB_UK on
> After The Telegraph approached the Green Party and Greens for Palestine, leaders of the fringe group said they were going to delete the chat because it had been infiltrated.
> In a discussion about which social media platform to use instead to speak more covertly, members suggested using Signal, an encrypted messaging app owned by a US non-profit organisation.
> Some members took umbrage with this because they had “heard that Signal is actually Israel owned”. Another member responded that it was “set up by Matthew Rosenfeld!!”.
> Others suggested the US non-profit publicly listed as the owner of Signal “could be a cover” for an Israeli owner.
> A third messaged: “Mind you we are all on Whatsapp and that’s Zuckerberg”, to which activists responded with laughter emojis.
> Mr Rosenfeld, known as Moxie Marlinspike, co-founded Signal and left the business in 2022. It is not known whether he is Israeli or Jewish.
Some really “Barry from Four Lions” behaviour here:
The kind of leftists who ignore how antisemitism was an attempt to scientise *judenhasse* and try to reclaim it so it’s victims are displaced in service of Palestinians.
It’s common because working for good causes gives a feeling of moral authority, which feels like a kind of karmic wallet boost. And the more conflict-embracing activism you push, the less concerned you are about courtesy and manners, the more willing to be “close to the unPC bone” because you feel correct, and a load of us still have a 00s standup atheist edgelord inside us. This is all over the internet, me included. Intense political causes are hardcore chauvinist in character – all about status, showing off and ingroup Vs outgroup paradigms.
lasthopel on
Feels like a non story given you could do the exact same thing to any pro reform group chat talking about Muslims not saying its good but unless this group is sitting next to leadership making decisions it is a non story
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Anyone calling Jews, especially British Jews, “Jewish supremacist” is an antisemite, for the same reason calling British Muslims “Islamic supremacists” is Islamophobic.
It’s a smear! They’re only antizionist, they make a point of saying so.
> “It’s us who have been scared into using the word zionists because of the fear of being labelled antisemites”
Oh.
>Green activists
If they’re in the WhatsApp groups, that could mean anything from an MP or a party official, to a member who went doorknocking once.
Still a member saying these things in a group chat, obviously, but the question is whether or not the party condones calling Jews abominations, which… I mean, the article itself very clearly says they don’t, and told their members they didn’t some time ago.
Greens started out being a whacky unelectable cult. Like Scientology with trees and slightly more politics. I guess the big difference now is that they no longer appear to be unelectable.
This is what happens when you set out to attract the Corbynites.
> After The Telegraph approached the Green Party and Greens for Palestine, leaders of the fringe group said they were going to delete the chat because it had been infiltrated.
> In a discussion about which social media platform to use instead to speak more covertly, members suggested using Signal, an encrypted messaging app owned by a US non-profit organisation.
> Some members took umbrage with this because they had “heard that Signal is actually Israel owned”. Another member responded that it was “set up by Matthew Rosenfeld!!”.
> Others suggested the US non-profit publicly listed as the owner of Signal “could be a cover” for an Israeli owner.
> A third messaged: “Mind you we are all on Whatsapp and that’s Zuckerberg”, to which activists responded with laughter emojis.
> Mr Rosenfeld, known as Moxie Marlinspike, co-founded Signal and left the business in 2022. It is not known whether he is Israeli or Jewish.
Some really “Barry from Four Lions” behaviour here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XT8Re4r_ig
> [Car broken down]
> A: Did you fix it?
> B: Yes I fixed it. It’s Jewish
> A: What parts in a car are Jewish?
> B: The…er…
> C: Spark plugs?
> B: Spark plugs, the Jews invented them to control global transport.
> A: …
“Green activists”, so not a single one of them was a Green Party official?
Why is antisemitism such an addictive opiate for far left wingers and far right wingers?
Most groups are an abomination, humanity is half savage.
It’s classic lefty antisemitism-that-thinks-it’s-ok-because-of-moral-highground antisemitism.
The kind of leftists who ignore how antisemitism was an attempt to scientise *judenhasse* and try to reclaim it so it’s victims are displaced in service of Palestinians.
It’s common because working for good causes gives a feeling of moral authority, which feels like a kind of karmic wallet boost. And the more conflict-embracing activism you push, the less concerned you are about courtesy and manners, the more willing to be “close to the unPC bone” because you feel correct, and a load of us still have a 00s standup atheist edgelord inside us. This is all over the internet, me included. Intense political causes are hardcore chauvinist in character – all about status, showing off and ingroup Vs outgroup paradigms.
Feels like a non story given you could do the exact same thing to any pro reform group chat talking about Muslims not saying its good but unless this group is sitting next to leadership making decisions it is a non story