You can’t be the leader, if you don’t invest in leading.
CyberPunkDongTooLong on
It’s good to see some coverage of this complete existential gutting of UK science, it’s amazing how little media coverage this has got considering how drastic it is.
This article focuses pretty much entirely on theory, but it’s important to note that while theory is particularly badly hit, the cuts are much wider than that. For an example, a big part that it doesn’t mention is the funding cut for LHCb, that this funding cut was pulled without any warning, after already committing internationally that it would be funded long term, and now because of this it is likely this huge international collaboration is going to be completely gone. It is worse than if the UK had just never committed to funding it at all, as plans and designs have already been made with this funding in mind, and it is likely too late to descope them by the amount required.
This means the LHC, which we (the globe, not the UK) have already spent around ~ £20 billion on, will not be used to anywhere near it’s full capacity. It’s ridiculously shortsighted, a pretty small amount of funding comparatively (or even none at all, if this had been clear from the start so the scope could be made appropriately) can allow us to continue using a £20 billion device to it’s full capacity. Instead, we are essentially throwing away a huge portion of the value of this £20 billion device that we’ve already paid for, over ~ £50 million. It is absurdly dumb.
This comes at the same time that the UK pushed for, and got, a CERN director-general, and then immediately defunded CERN with funds it had already firmly committed it would supply long term. It is both existentially threatening for UK science, and a huge international embarrassment that shows the UK cannot be trusted on the international stage in science, which will be almost as damaging to UK science as the cuts themselves.
Deathstroke_16 on
Sorry Brian Cox but this tax money needs to be used for better things like housing illegal immigrants who are not gonna contribute anything to the society.
evidentialnearlyman on
I am not sure the actor who played king lear (very well I may add) has any authority on this
Asleep-Ad1182 on
No, it’s more important that we pay benefit scroungers to have kids.
Mr_XcX on
Are they going to blame this on the blackhole also?
See what I did there.
Cielo11 on
We are devolving from a First World country.
We stopped investing and just moan about how much everything costs.
Shadowholme on
The problem is – the government can’t fund everything…
We’re increasing investment in upgrading the power grid, building renewables, upgrading defence now that it seems to be important, manufacturing, medical research and infrastructure… And probably more that I don’t remember off the top of my head.
I WISH we could fund everything, and that we weren’t making up for 14 years of austerity so we need to play catchup, but we are where we are. There is only so much we can do at one time.
If we can fix the tax loopholes then we can probably afford to do more, but not right now…
Ihatecheeseballs on
If our ancestors hadn’t invested in the future then we’d still be in the Stone Age
sumduud14 on
Cuts of 70% to science grants to fund 1% of one years’ increase in the benefits bill.
What do we do once we have no science, no industry, no housing, no services, no finance, no manufacturing, no workers, no children, no schools…what do we do once we are a country of literally just pensioners?
EmptyStwo on
Yeah, but isn’t that a problem for the next generations, not really us? So basically, there’s no issue, definitely.
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And Brian Cox is right.
You can’t be the leader, if you don’t invest in leading.
It’s good to see some coverage of this complete existential gutting of UK science, it’s amazing how little media coverage this has got considering how drastic it is.
This article focuses pretty much entirely on theory, but it’s important to note that while theory is particularly badly hit, the cuts are much wider than that. For an example, a big part that it doesn’t mention is the funding cut for LHCb, that this funding cut was pulled without any warning, after already committing internationally that it would be funded long term, and now because of this it is likely this huge international collaboration is going to be completely gone. It is worse than if the UK had just never committed to funding it at all, as plans and designs have already been made with this funding in mind, and it is likely too late to descope them by the amount required.
This means the LHC, which we (the globe, not the UK) have already spent around ~ £20 billion on, will not be used to anywhere near it’s full capacity. It’s ridiculously shortsighted, a pretty small amount of funding comparatively (or even none at all, if this had been clear from the start so the scope could be made appropriately) can allow us to continue using a £20 billion device to it’s full capacity. Instead, we are essentially throwing away a huge portion of the value of this £20 billion device that we’ve already paid for, over ~ £50 million. It is absurdly dumb.
This comes at the same time that the UK pushed for, and got, a CERN director-general, and then immediately defunded CERN with funds it had already firmly committed it would supply long term. It is both existentially threatening for UK science, and a huge international embarrassment that shows the UK cannot be trusted on the international stage in science, which will be almost as damaging to UK science as the cuts themselves.
Sorry Brian Cox but this tax money needs to be used for better things like housing illegal immigrants who are not gonna contribute anything to the society.
I am not sure the actor who played king lear (very well I may add) has any authority on this
No, it’s more important that we pay benefit scroungers to have kids.
Are they going to blame this on the blackhole also?
See what I did there.
We are devolving from a First World country.
We stopped investing and just moan about how much everything costs.
The problem is – the government can’t fund everything…
We’re increasing investment in upgrading the power grid, building renewables, upgrading defence now that it seems to be important, manufacturing, medical research and infrastructure… And probably more that I don’t remember off the top of my head.
I WISH we could fund everything, and that we weren’t making up for 14 years of austerity so we need to play catchup, but we are where we are. There is only so much we can do at one time.
If we can fix the tax loopholes then we can probably afford to do more, but not right now…
If our ancestors hadn’t invested in the future then we’d still be in the Stone Age
Cuts of 70% to science grants to fund 1% of one years’ increase in the benefits bill.
What do we do once we have no science, no industry, no housing, no services, no finance, no manufacturing, no workers, no children, no schools…what do we do once we are a country of literally just pensioners?
Yeah, but isn’t that a problem for the next generations, not really us? So basically, there’s no issue, definitely.