Yeah but if we fixed the housing crisis how would boomers get even richer? We have known for decades about the housing crisis yet refuse to do anything about it. We need mass house building right now!
Cabrakan on
people settle down to have families when they can…settle down? it’s so insane, it might just work
Woffingshire on
Most issues in this country all stem back to housing and property values.
Property values detmine how much rent or mortgages cost which are the single biggest expense for most people and one of the big expenses of a lot of businesses.
That means that to have the same spending power normal people need to keep getting paid more to afford their homes, and businesses need to increase their prices to afford their premises. Both of which are direct drivers of inflation and mean that everyone has less disposable income.
We’ve been seeing it in action in London for decades.
Nanowith on
But have you considered the wealthy and elderly desire to have their cake and eat it too?
Double_Collection155 on
Who would’ve guessed that having the majority of your wage go into rent and thus having a lack of disposable income would affect birth rates? What’s next? You are telling me that it also affects the hospitality industry, socialising rates, and mental health problems?
Economy_Ad3034 on
We imported millions of people to address the falling birth rate which in turn pumped up house prices which in turn is decimating the birth rate
throwaway1948476 on
No shit lol
I’m 40 and my *entire* adult life has been a fight to obtain adequate shelter. Finally have a small house but would like more space before starting a family. And my wife and I are relatively high earners, probably top 1-2% for our region.
The UK has some of the smallest and worst value for money houses in the entire world. Building more and better houses should have been our number one priority for decades, yet even modest (ie, insufficient) housebuilding targets have repeatedly not been met.
And on top of all that, for some reason the last Conservative government decided to fill up our limited housing stock with millions of unskilled third world imports.
Prior_Worldliness287 on
What’s the fix to the housing crisis?
If someone can tell me the fix great. Otherwise all his words
Informal_Drawing on
I think Fix Everything full stop is what’s actually required.
Fertility dropped from 2.9 in 1964 to 1.7 in 1978 by 1.2, this was long before the housing crisis. Indeed it was one of the best times for housing in this countries history.
Since then fertility has dropped by 0.1 to 1.6, a minor amount in comparison, although their has been some ups & downs along the way. We did see a spike in fertility rate between 2007 & 2012 where it reached 1.9, however this is a fraction of the change seen over the late 60s’/early 70s’.
This shows fertility rates globally with the countries in blue below replacement fertility-
Of the developed countries many of those with the cheaper housing also have low fertility rates. The UK is actually one of the countries with higher fertility in Europe-
Indeed globally the countries with the highest fertility tend to be poorer with higher relative costs of living. Our major population increase was in the 19th century with insecure housing for many.
The housing crisis needs attention, although this is easier said then done with a huge chunk of the population directly profiting from reduced supply with steadily increasing house prices. However it is unlikely a fix to housing will significantly boost fertility rates
fn3dav2 on
All population growth this century is due to immigration.
So you might say, that immigration is causing natives to have fewer children.
So you might say, that natives are being ‘replaced’ by immigrants and their families.
It’s… a replacement… on a great (large) scale… you might say…
Neglectful_Stranger on
I’d be interested in their methodology, because economic causes including owning a house have little correlation with birthrate.
AccomplishedAct5364 on
But the lefties on here keep telling me we need to bring more migrants and destroy the countryside to house them?
LateToTheParty013 on
It wouldnt help as much as they think, but yes, there are loads of people I know that dont want kids until there s a level of financial safety, including a home.
Else people either dont have kids or they become the grandparents of their own children having kids so late.
Otherwise, this is a way more complex topic than ‘sort housing, birth rate will raise’
Green-LaManche on
Private schools are extremely overrated. No advantage to overall social skills and education. After 40+ career years I believe social skills are more important then academic achievement. Even though I made myself on professional development.
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Yeah but if we fixed the housing crisis how would boomers get even richer? We have known for decades about the housing crisis yet refuse to do anything about it. We need mass house building right now!
people settle down to have families when they can…settle down? it’s so insane, it might just work
Most issues in this country all stem back to housing and property values.
Property values detmine how much rent or mortgages cost which are the single biggest expense for most people and one of the big expenses of a lot of businesses.
That means that to have the same spending power normal people need to keep getting paid more to afford their homes, and businesses need to increase their prices to afford their premises. Both of which are direct drivers of inflation and mean that everyone has less disposable income.
We’ve been seeing it in action in London for decades.
But have you considered the wealthy and elderly desire to have their cake and eat it too?
Who would’ve guessed that having the majority of your wage go into rent and thus having a lack of disposable income would affect birth rates? What’s next? You are telling me that it also affects the hospitality industry, socialising rates, and mental health problems?
We imported millions of people to address the falling birth rate which in turn pumped up house prices which in turn is decimating the birth rate
No shit lol
I’m 40 and my *entire* adult life has been a fight to obtain adequate shelter. Finally have a small house but would like more space before starting a family. And my wife and I are relatively high earners, probably top 1-2% for our region.
The UK has some of the smallest and worst value for money houses in the entire world. Building more and better houses should have been our number one priority for decades, yet even modest (ie, insufficient) housebuilding targets have repeatedly not been met.
And on top of all that, for some reason the last Conservative government decided to fill up our limited housing stock with millions of unskilled third world imports.
What’s the fix to the housing crisis?
If someone can tell me the fix great. Otherwise all his words
I think Fix Everything full stop is what’s actually required.
This shows our fertility rate over time-
[https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=GB](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=GB)
Fertility dropped from 2.9 in 1964 to 1.7 in 1978 by 1.2, this was long before the housing crisis. Indeed it was one of the best times for housing in this countries history.
Since then fertility has dropped by 0.1 to 1.6, a minor amount in comparison, although their has been some ups & downs along the way. We did see a spike in fertility rate between 2007 & 2012 where it reached 1.9, however this is a fraction of the change seen over the late 60s’/early 70s’.
This shows fertility rates globally with the countries in blue below replacement fertility-
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Total_Fertility_Rate_Map_by_Country.svg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Total_Fertility_Rate_Map_by_Country.svg)
Of the developed countries many of those with the cheaper housing also have low fertility rates. The UK is actually one of the countries with higher fertility in Europe-
[https://www.statista.com/statistics/612074/fertility-rates-in-european-countries/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/612074/fertility-rates-in-european-countries/)
Indeed globally the countries with the highest fertility tend to be poorer with higher relative costs of living. Our major population increase was in the 19th century with insecure housing for many.
The housing crisis needs attention, although this is easier said then done with a huge chunk of the population directly profiting from reduced supply with steadily increasing house prices. However it is unlikely a fix to housing will significantly boost fertility rates
All population growth this century is due to immigration.
So you might say, that immigration is causing natives to have fewer children.
So you might say, that natives are being ‘replaced’ by immigrants and their families.
It’s… a replacement… on a great (large) scale… you might say…
I’d be interested in their methodology, because economic causes including owning a house have little correlation with birthrate.
But the lefties on here keep telling me we need to bring more migrants and destroy the countryside to house them?
It wouldnt help as much as they think, but yes, there are loads of people I know that dont want kids until there s a level of financial safety, including a home.
Else people either dont have kids or they become the grandparents of their own children having kids so late.
Otherwise, this is a way more complex topic than ‘sort housing, birth rate will raise’
Private schools are extremely overrated. No advantage to overall social skills and education. After 40+ career years I believe social skills are more important then academic achievement. Even though I made myself on professional development.