I mean, that isn’t right, surely? The Greens have very visibly made cost-of-living a headline issue. Say what you want about their means of addressing it, but to say they don’t care about it as a concern is crazy to me.
navagon on
No. I think that the Tories and Reform care. They want to raise the cost of living drastically.
Wonderful-Medium7777 on
It’s because we are more aware that we are being turned into ever increasing commodities for the “oligarchs!”
Questjon on
The problem is we all want the cost of living to improve today but it was a lack of long term investment that got us into this situation to begin with. If we keep voting for parties that gives us relief in the short term (through cuts and borrowing) we end up paying for it long term.
theartofnocode on
People need to realise that there is very little any government can do about the cost of living.
We voted for our critical infrastructure to be privatised meaning we are in the hands of private companies for electricity, gas and water. We voted for low taxes for 45 years meaning we now have a £3 trillion national debt and a £100+ billion annual deficit.
People haven’t bothered to keep their skills relevant meaning most British people have no more skills than their Indian or Chinese counterparts, but expect to be paid four times as much for doing the same job which doesn’t wash in an increasingly global economy.
Unfortunately, all our chickens are now come home to roost.
chronicnerv on
You never have a say in the UK unless you have a vote on foreign affairs and you do not have any say on foreign affairs when you have a foreign military base on your soil.
soggyarsonist on
Labour are working on it but sections of the electorate repeatedly voted to wreck the UK by re-electing the Conservatives and choosing Brexit.
Even worse most of those responsible for this refuse to take any responsibility for their voting choices, and are often the first to moan that Labour haven’t waved a magic wand and fixed it all overnight.
The same people are now probably going to vote ReformUK to really screw over the country when it’s already on its knees.
sokorsognarf on
It seems many people confuse not being able to fix the cost of living crisis with not wanting to
GXWT on
when i was younger i was probably just too naive
these days i just pretty much universally accept that until something durastically changes in society, no party/corporation/people in power actually care about me.
TheEndIsFingNigh on
Not that the Greens have been talking about it non-stop for over a year now. Do people not pay attention?
Izuzu__ on
All the sensible parties care deeply. It’s critically important. That doesn’t mean in any way that the government has executive control over the cost of living. A global economy has benefits but also has global issues. No country that is heavily involved with the global economy can just wish the cost of living away, nor can they just press a few buttons to get it under control. Labour are doing an amazing job in with an incredibly difficult task. I’m not sure how much better people think it can get unless we suddenly regained control of the US
Letzer-Mensch-hunter on
Damn, have we tried printing more bonds for benefits?
supersonic-bionic on
Thats true. There are culture wars ovrrshadowing the real problems that no one wants to touch and fix.
simanthropy on
Realistically, what do top-level-policy solutions to this look like? Things cost more. So subsidise them. Where does that money come from? The wealthy? That’s the Green platform. The middle class? That’s Labour/Lib Dem. What other solutions are people wanting offered?
lalabadmans on
Brits “no one cares about the cost of living”
Labour has raised the minimum wage so the poorest workers will have more money to help with the cost of living:
Brits “omfg what have you done you’ve doomed us all”
Chidoribraindev on
It’s a shame Labour messaging is bad and the media pile on them.
For the first time in my adult life, I have directly and quickly felt a positive financial effect from their policies. They wasted no time pushing through childcare reform and my industry has seen a lot of new funding both from the EU and locally (with more coming in the latter half of the year supposedly). This means I am about £15k better off in childcare and I got my first senior position thanks to new funding with a nice salary increase.
Clbull on
The Greens care. But their caveat is they want open borders, to withdraw from NATO, and somehow think they can convince Putin to disarm Russia’s nuclear weapons.
Busy-Replacement-421 on
It’s a grim reality that decades of political choices have left us with few good options now. We’re stuck between parties that don’t care and a system that feels impossible to fix.
Enraged-walnut on
As much as it needs to happen, campaigning on cutting benefits (I’m looking predominantly at you triple lock) and raising taxes is a sure fire way to get zero votes. It doesn’t matter how much it needs to happen.
I do wonder though how successful a tough love style campaign would work. Laying it all out and squarely pointing the finger at the voting public. Messaging along the lines of “you want functioning public services and you want to pay no tax, you can’t have both”
LegendaryArmalol on
What cost of living? Don’t you want to be protected from the transes?
adds102 on
The problem is everyone wants everything to run well and to a high standard but aren’t prepared to pay the higher taxes necessary to pay for it.
But also the problem is the government not cracking down on millionaire and billionaires and corporations not paying their way in this country.
bobblebob100 on
No political party care. They only care about getting into power so say they do to get votes
64gbBumFunCannon on
Our utilities are privately owned. As is most transport, and broadband, so most of the bills you pay every month go into the hands of private companies, not back into the pot of the government. They get income tax, as long as the companies play nice.
So, we spend our money in supermarkets, who again, avoid paying as much tax as possible to keep their profits up. They in turn pay farmers fuck all, but we need farmers, to the government ends up propping them up (albeit less than they used to) and taking money back out of the pot.
So then the government responds by putting minimum wage up, and utility companies don’t want to take the hit, so put their prices up. So your average Joe is now paying more for their bills, has less disposable income, so can’t go to the pub, to pay the huge amounts of tax on drink, and doesn’t go out for food, because it’s gone up too.
Now people are spending less on luxaries, and just paying bills, but as we know, the private companies are keeping as much tax as they can.
So the government has less money to play with, so roads start to fall apart, the NHS gets it’s budget cut, cuts keep happening all over the place…
So they put their taxes up, the average Joe gets screwed with taxes and everything feels bad.
At least that’s my take.
Informal_Drawing on
Apart from the Greens who specifically want to tackle financial inequality.
But sure, none of them apart from that.
aehii on
The Greens talk about cost of living every second so obviously they’re not getting enough exposure going by these polls. A reminder to everyone, it’s £6 a year to join the Greens, please consider it. More members, more mention of it, more exposure, more money for them to pick candidates. The future is socialism or fascism. It’s one simple thing we all can do.
Psittacula2 on
The cost of paradigm shift from consumerism to sustainability is in progress.
I pointed out some years ago now the preceding decade was deconstruction phase eg culture wars, now entering already demolition phase – expected to proceed at higher magnitude. This is just the beginning.
Expelleddux on
Some people think governments can create happiness out of thin air.
AdAggressive9224 on
I think the Greens care about it. Well, they care about wealth inequality, which is a large part of the cost of living crisis. (Rent is too darn high meme).
But the big issue is Labour and conservatives are both ignoring the two big issues, immigration and wealth inequality (cost of living).
It would be so easy for them to gain ground, but they refuse to address these things because their membership directly benefit from them. You can’t expect the Tories to do anything about immigration, or wealth inequality, they want house prices as high as possible and to cram as many immigrants into a grotty HMO because they’re all slum landlords. Likewise for labour to be honest. Same problem.
That_Historian9991 on
Go watch ed miliband 2015, front and centre of his campaign, before it became talked about as a “crisis”
Nielips on
Most people actively vote against parties that propose addressing cost of living. I don’t think most people even understand or want to accept what it is the cause the cost of living to be so high.
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I mean, that isn’t right, surely? The Greens have very visibly made cost-of-living a headline issue. Say what you want about their means of addressing it, but to say they don’t care about it as a concern is crazy to me.
No. I think that the Tories and Reform care. They want to raise the cost of living drastically.
It’s because we are more aware that we are being turned into ever increasing commodities for the “oligarchs!”
The problem is we all want the cost of living to improve today but it was a lack of long term investment that got us into this situation to begin with. If we keep voting for parties that gives us relief in the short term (through cuts and borrowing) we end up paying for it long term.
People need to realise that there is very little any government can do about the cost of living.
We voted for our critical infrastructure to be privatised meaning we are in the hands of private companies for electricity, gas and water. We voted for low taxes for 45 years meaning we now have a £3 trillion national debt and a £100+ billion annual deficit.
People haven’t bothered to keep their skills relevant meaning most British people have no more skills than their Indian or Chinese counterparts, but expect to be paid four times as much for doing the same job which doesn’t wash in an increasingly global economy.
Unfortunately, all our chickens are now come home to roost.
You never have a say in the UK unless you have a vote on foreign affairs and you do not have any say on foreign affairs when you have a foreign military base on your soil.
Labour are working on it but sections of the electorate repeatedly voted to wreck the UK by re-electing the Conservatives and choosing Brexit.
Even worse most of those responsible for this refuse to take any responsibility for their voting choices, and are often the first to moan that Labour haven’t waved a magic wand and fixed it all overnight.
The same people are now probably going to vote ReformUK to really screw over the country when it’s already on its knees.
It seems many people confuse not being able to fix the cost of living crisis with not wanting to
when i was younger i was probably just too naive
these days i just pretty much universally accept that until something durastically changes in society, no party/corporation/people in power actually care about me.
Not that the Greens have been talking about it non-stop for over a year now. Do people not pay attention?
All the sensible parties care deeply. It’s critically important. That doesn’t mean in any way that the government has executive control over the cost of living. A global economy has benefits but also has global issues. No country that is heavily involved with the global economy can just wish the cost of living away, nor can they just press a few buttons to get it under control. Labour are doing an amazing job in with an incredibly difficult task. I’m not sure how much better people think it can get unless we suddenly regained control of the US
Damn, have we tried printing more bonds for benefits?
Thats true. There are culture wars ovrrshadowing the real problems that no one wants to touch and fix.
Realistically, what do top-level-policy solutions to this look like? Things cost more. So subsidise them. Where does that money come from? The wealthy? That’s the Green platform. The middle class? That’s Labour/Lib Dem. What other solutions are people wanting offered?
Brits “no one cares about the cost of living”
Labour has raised the minimum wage so the poorest workers will have more money to help with the cost of living:
Brits “omfg what have you done you’ve doomed us all”
It’s a shame Labour messaging is bad and the media pile on them.
For the first time in my adult life, I have directly and quickly felt a positive financial effect from their policies. They wasted no time pushing through childcare reform and my industry has seen a lot of new funding both from the EU and locally (with more coming in the latter half of the year supposedly). This means I am about £15k better off in childcare and I got my first senior position thanks to new funding with a nice salary increase.
The Greens care. But their caveat is they want open borders, to withdraw from NATO, and somehow think they can convince Putin to disarm Russia’s nuclear weapons.
It’s a grim reality that decades of political choices have left us with few good options now. We’re stuck between parties that don’t care and a system that feels impossible to fix.
As much as it needs to happen, campaigning on cutting benefits (I’m looking predominantly at you triple lock) and raising taxes is a sure fire way to get zero votes. It doesn’t matter how much it needs to happen.
I do wonder though how successful a tough love style campaign would work. Laying it all out and squarely pointing the finger at the voting public. Messaging along the lines of “you want functioning public services and you want to pay no tax, you can’t have both”
What cost of living? Don’t you want to be protected from the transes?
The problem is everyone wants everything to run well and to a high standard but aren’t prepared to pay the higher taxes necessary to pay for it.
But also the problem is the government not cracking down on millionaire and billionaires and corporations not paying their way in this country.
No political party care. They only care about getting into power so say they do to get votes
Our utilities are privately owned. As is most transport, and broadband, so most of the bills you pay every month go into the hands of private companies, not back into the pot of the government. They get income tax, as long as the companies play nice.
So, we spend our money in supermarkets, who again, avoid paying as much tax as possible to keep their profits up. They in turn pay farmers fuck all, but we need farmers, to the government ends up propping them up (albeit less than they used to) and taking money back out of the pot.
So then the government responds by putting minimum wage up, and utility companies don’t want to take the hit, so put their prices up. So your average Joe is now paying more for their bills, has less disposable income, so can’t go to the pub, to pay the huge amounts of tax on drink, and doesn’t go out for food, because it’s gone up too.
Now people are spending less on luxaries, and just paying bills, but as we know, the private companies are keeping as much tax as they can.
So the government has less money to play with, so roads start to fall apart, the NHS gets it’s budget cut, cuts keep happening all over the place…
So they put their taxes up, the average Joe gets screwed with taxes and everything feels bad.
At least that’s my take.
Apart from the Greens who specifically want to tackle financial inequality.
But sure, none of them apart from that.
The Greens talk about cost of living every second so obviously they’re not getting enough exposure going by these polls. A reminder to everyone, it’s £6 a year to join the Greens, please consider it. More members, more mention of it, more exposure, more money for them to pick candidates. The future is socialism or fascism. It’s one simple thing we all can do.
The cost of paradigm shift from consumerism to sustainability is in progress.
I pointed out some years ago now the preceding decade was deconstruction phase eg culture wars, now entering already demolition phase – expected to proceed at higher magnitude. This is just the beginning.
Some people think governments can create happiness out of thin air.
I think the Greens care about it. Well, they care about wealth inequality, which is a large part of the cost of living crisis. (Rent is too darn high meme).
But the big issue is Labour and conservatives are both ignoring the two big issues, immigration and wealth inequality (cost of living).
It would be so easy for them to gain ground, but they refuse to address these things because their membership directly benefit from them. You can’t expect the Tories to do anything about immigration, or wealth inequality, they want house prices as high as possible and to cram as many immigrants into a grotty HMO because they’re all slum landlords. Likewise for labour to be honest. Same problem.
Go watch ed miliband 2015, front and centre of his campaign, before it became talked about as a “crisis”
Most people actively vote against parties that propose addressing cost of living. I don’t think most people even understand or want to accept what it is the cause the cost of living to be so high.