Parents need to take account for A LOT more than just this.
SoggyWotsits on
Do they think the parts of parents who raise (and I use that word loosely) these children will be listening? It’s the same sort of parents who had no idea their kid was running drugs around the country. If they don’t know where their child is for days on end, they’re probably not too worried about what they’re doing in the afternoons.
aisy0317 on
Parents, yes, and certainly not the social media companies which facilitated the riots…nothing to see here guys.
JackStrawWitchita on
You can’t undo a decade of poor parenting with a stern talking-to…
MultiMidden on
Parents need to be parents, but teenagers have always done dumb stuff and not told their parents what they are doing.
But also social media companies need to me more accountable, gone are the old days of SM where facebook just showed you what your friends were doing. All SM companies push content to drive views and engagement so as to get maximum money from adverts. TikTok came from China, I doubt any Chinese SM companies would get away with this so of shit In China.
Scarabium on
If the parents cared in the first place you wouldn’t have scenes like this.
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anonypanda on
Aggressively fine the parents. Give the kids involved a criminal record. Fine the social media companies an escalating % of global turnover for every incident. Including future incidents.
Every layer of the puzzle that allows this to happen needs to be made an example of. We can’t function as a country where young people feel looting their neighbourhoods is acceptable and a consequences free activity.
Gnosys00110 on
The parents may share part of the responsibility, however do you blame these kids?
Imagine growing up on social media, likely in poverty and knowing the future is bleak. Hardly surprising they act this way.
ericrobertshair on
Don’t tell them to do it, make them fucking do it. If the parents had to pay to clean up after their shitty ass kids, or even better get given community service, gurantee they’d all be in bed by 9 and acing their GCSEs.
JohnnySilverhand2212 on
If they won’t then some tear gas will do the job. It’s time for people to wake up and realise if they won’t parent their crotch goblins they were forced to birth, then the law will.
erbr on
Parents are now angry that the government doesn’t set access control in mobile apps!
At this point parents are accessory in education…
CongealedBeanKingdom on
They can’t, they’re too busy watching it on tiktok
Thandoscovia on
What sort of parents do these feral teenagers have? Who lets their children run around the streets, assaulting people and destroying property?
Seems a bit late for the government to remind parents to actually do their jobs
anonnymouse2025 on
But also dont smack them. Oh, and make sure you don’t hurt their feelings, and dont take their devices as they need them for homework. And grounding them or locking them in the house is cruel and destroys their ability to make and maintain friendships, so dont do that either…
InformationNew66 on
How was Guardian able to include a picture which doesn’t show what was going on? I have seen a couple of videos online.
Key_Illustrator4822 on
Telling people to change their behaviour isn’t a plan, the systems have to change
Marshwiggletreacle on
These kids should stay home and play computer games and watch toktok all day.
sjw_7 on
The problem is most of them wont. They will blame everyone else without admitting that in most cases the problems stem from the home.
There were only a tiny number of arrests related to this and almost certainly no charges. There are simply no consequences for doing this kind of thing so people are going to continue because they can.
Until such time as there is a deterrent it wont stop. Pick them up en masse, fine them and tell them that the next three months of their lives is going to mostly revolve around picking up litter and cleaning up dog shit.
Continuous hand wringing and blaming it on poverty isn’t going to change anything. This is not a mindless zombie mob, they are choosing to do this knowing full well its wrong.
Engineer-Miserable on
If we as a country paid for parks, skate parks, youth clubs, community activities that I got to do when I was a kid, we probably wouldn’t have situations where teens do this to entertain themselves.
Parents need to parent better, but situations like this could have been avoided by investing in young people, the actual future of the country. I’m one for laying blame squarely on the parents, especially nowadays, but we cut back on amenities for kids massively over years of austerity, and this is the end result when you don’t invest in spaces and activities for young people. It’s only going to get worse because the only real space they have to themselves is the online world, which is a bad thing tbh, and boomers seem relentless in trying to ensure they don’t have that either.
IWear2BlackSocks on
ashould be a law where it falls on the parents, they’ll soon take notice of their kids then!
JimboTCB on
> Reposting a video apparently showing an M&S supermarket in Clapham being stormed by teenagers on Saturday, Kemi Badenoch said: “We have created a culture where too many young people believe they can do what they like and nothing will happen. That is the problem.
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> “We should be honest about where that leads,” the Conservative party leader added. “If a child loots a shop today, films it for social media, and faces no real consequence, they are going to do much worse tomorrow.”
“We’re all trying to find the guy who did this” says man wearing hotdog costume
DankestDaddy69 on
Force the kids into military training schools, the parents pay for it. Teach the kids a lessons and the parents get punished for being utterly useless.
arabidopsis on
If parents took responsibility we wouldn’t have the online safety act
OwlsParliament on
Their parents were probably involved in the 2011 riots. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
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Parents need to take account for A LOT more than just this.
Do they think the parts of parents who raise (and I use that word loosely) these children will be listening? It’s the same sort of parents who had no idea their kid was running drugs around the country. If they don’t know where their child is for days on end, they’re probably not too worried about what they’re doing in the afternoons.
Parents, yes, and certainly not the social media companies which facilitated the riots…nothing to see here guys.
You can’t undo a decade of poor parenting with a stern talking-to…
Parents need to be parents, but teenagers have always done dumb stuff and not told their parents what they are doing.
But also social media companies need to me more accountable, gone are the old days of SM where facebook just showed you what your friends were doing. All SM companies push content to drive views and engagement so as to get maximum money from adverts. TikTok came from China, I doubt any Chinese SM companies would get away with this so of shit In China.
If the parents cared in the first place you wouldn’t have scenes like this.
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Aggressively fine the parents. Give the kids involved a criminal record. Fine the social media companies an escalating % of global turnover for every incident. Including future incidents.
Every layer of the puzzle that allows this to happen needs to be made an example of. We can’t function as a country where young people feel looting their neighbourhoods is acceptable and a consequences free activity.
The parents may share part of the responsibility, however do you blame these kids?
Imagine growing up on social media, likely in poverty and knowing the future is bleak. Hardly surprising they act this way.
Don’t tell them to do it, make them fucking do it. If the parents had to pay to clean up after their shitty ass kids, or even better get given community service, gurantee they’d all be in bed by 9 and acing their GCSEs.
If they won’t then some tear gas will do the job. It’s time for people to wake up and realise if they won’t parent their crotch goblins they were forced to birth, then the law will.
Parents are now angry that the government doesn’t set access control in mobile apps!
At this point parents are accessory in education…
They can’t, they’re too busy watching it on tiktok
What sort of parents do these feral teenagers have? Who lets their children run around the streets, assaulting people and destroying property?
Seems a bit late for the government to remind parents to actually do their jobs
But also dont smack them. Oh, and make sure you don’t hurt their feelings, and dont take their devices as they need them for homework. And grounding them or locking them in the house is cruel and destroys their ability to make and maintain friendships, so dont do that either…
How was Guardian able to include a picture which doesn’t show what was going on? I have seen a couple of videos online.
Telling people to change their behaviour isn’t a plan, the systems have to change
These kids should stay home and play computer games and watch toktok all day.
The problem is most of them wont. They will blame everyone else without admitting that in most cases the problems stem from the home.
There were only a tiny number of arrests related to this and almost certainly no charges. There are simply no consequences for doing this kind of thing so people are going to continue because they can.
Until such time as there is a deterrent it wont stop. Pick them up en masse, fine them and tell them that the next three months of their lives is going to mostly revolve around picking up litter and cleaning up dog shit.
Continuous hand wringing and blaming it on poverty isn’t going to change anything. This is not a mindless zombie mob, they are choosing to do this knowing full well its wrong.
If we as a country paid for parks, skate parks, youth clubs, community activities that I got to do when I was a kid, we probably wouldn’t have situations where teens do this to entertain themselves.
Parents need to parent better, but situations like this could have been avoided by investing in young people, the actual future of the country. I’m one for laying blame squarely on the parents, especially nowadays, but we cut back on amenities for kids massively over years of austerity, and this is the end result when you don’t invest in spaces and activities for young people. It’s only going to get worse because the only real space they have to themselves is the online world, which is a bad thing tbh, and boomers seem relentless in trying to ensure they don’t have that either.
ashould be a law where it falls on the parents, they’ll soon take notice of their kids then!
> Reposting a video apparently showing an M&S supermarket in Clapham being stormed by teenagers on Saturday, Kemi Badenoch said: “We have created a culture where too many young people believe they can do what they like and nothing will happen. That is the problem.
>
> “We should be honest about where that leads,” the Conservative party leader added. “If a child loots a shop today, films it for social media, and faces no real consequence, they are going to do much worse tomorrow.”
“We’re all trying to find the guy who did this” says man wearing hotdog costume
Force the kids into military training schools, the parents pay for it. Teach the kids a lessons and the parents get punished for being utterly useless.
If parents took responsibility we wouldn’t have the online safety act
Their parents were probably involved in the 2011 riots. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.