>The contract for the barge, which is currently housing 400 migrants, will end in January because the Home Office says it will no longer be needed as they move to clear the backlog of asylum claims.
And where will those with rejected claims reside…? Because I don’t see them getting deported.
brick-bye-brick on
Good.
When I first heard of the idea I thought it was a conservatives wet dream.
I don’t really see how it was designed to solve any problem without being blatantly inhumane.
‘lets stick loads of foreign men on a boat and then report all instances of internal violence like it was completely unexpected but use it as ammo to justify our casual racism!’
This and the rwandan set up seamed like such an American import.
I understand that there is an immigration issue but this won’t fix it. Just like it’s proven fact that the death penalty doesn’t put off criminals… So now you have 400 men stuck on a boat who are going to be forming resentments (who can blame them) then if they are granted asylum they are released after living in confinement on a boat. That’s going to be worse for the local community.
It just seemed so ill thought out and as a test the water approach.
Very aware this is likely going to be an unpopular opinion on this sub but Instead of just downvoting me as an emotional response let me know your thoughts. I’m interested to hear from both sides.
MemorialCreampie on
More diversity for EVERYONE (except the well off you don’t have to live next to 100s of Syrians don’t worry lol)
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CompoteAccording5102 on
Boris, Rishi, suella and liztruss should pay for the whole thing out of their pocket. And the whole Rwanda stuff too.
flobbernoggin on
As someone who works and lives on a ship for significant periods of time it is maddening to see people complaining about the conditions these people were housed in.
They are far better than many of our own merchant fleet
Totally weird that people would complain loudly when there’s millions of seafarers round the world living in WORSE conditions.
Nevermind the ones in this country.
Azlan82 on
Labout about to clear the backlog in a month…by just allowing everyone to stay, no questions asked.
5 years time Reform will have a field day.
AtillaThePundit on
Whole crisis was manufactured by the tories to manipulate the voting masses .
3106Throwaway181576 on
We should build like 20 of these barges, put them in major cities, and use them as Student Accom. I’d have been in their in a heartbeat, and it would absorb a lot of housing demand.
SoiledGrundies on
Could they repurpose to house British homeless people? I’m sure the uptake would be massive.
Free food and accommodation with facilities.
Termin8tor on
Well, rather than retire the Bibby Stockholme, why not tow it up the Thames and use it to house M.P’s instead of giving them a second home allowance. Win win.
Tartan_Samurai on
Usual suspects are doom spiralling themselves in apocalyptic fantasy’s o er this pretty banal and entirely expected news I see. Well done Torygraph, you play them like a fiddle every time
Dry_Sandwich_860 on
I have complicated feelings about this situation.
It is wrong to keep refugees warehoused in cramped facilities with no income and barely enough in benefits to buy soap. Labour is completely right that claims need to be processed much faster. We have been wasting absolutely enormous amounts of money on housing people who are on years-long waiting lists.
At the same time, it has not escaped me that the conditions on the Bibi Stockholm are much better than many citizens are dealing with. I pay nearly £1400 per month in rent on a studio. That’s the absolute cheapest accommodation I can find that doesn’t have mould coming down the walls. I am not exaggerating. I looked for three months. There are tens of millions of citizens living in worse conditions (less food, more mould, less space) than are the people on the Bibi Stockholm.
One reason Labour was out of power for so long, allowing the Tories to destroy everything, was that they did not care even slightly about struggling British citizens unless they were pregnant or Boomers. They didn’t care about the left-behind people in the north living in towns deserted by industry and competing with hordes of low-paid foreigners for minimum-wage jobs. They didn’t care about people like me who got zero parental help and faced massive tuition fees and housing costs.
So when I see people moaning and wailing about immigrants who are getting free, clean housing and enough to eat, I do feel pretty over it.
Rulweylan on
The bit everyone seems to be missing on this is that the boat was insanely expensive for what it was.
You could rent every migrant their own luxury flat in Westminster for that. (Seriously, £3300 pcm goes a very long way even in the most expensive parts of the country. If any of the migrants has become attached to Portland during their stay, they could rent this [luxurious holiday home that has been converted from a chapel](https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150327404#/?channel=RES_LET) and still have £300+ a month to spare.)
human_totem_pole on
I know the barge is owned by Bibby Line – which company has the contract to operate it as an accommodation vessel for refugees?
TowerAdept7603 on
There was only ever a back log of asylum claims because the last government gutted the department processing the claims, resulting it wasted millions on temporary housing
Own-Psychology-5327 on
If only the tories hadn’t spent over a decade making it as long and as difficult as possible to come into the country legally we wouldn’t have such issues with illegal immigration. People aren’t gonna stop coming in search of a better life, nor should they imo, but if we want less coming through illegal and ya know life threatening ways we gotta have a functioning and fair immigration system. Let’s see if Labour are able to make that happen cause just shoving them all on a barge like animals or spending hundreds of millions shipping them off across the world so we don’t have to help them isn’t really what I’d call a functioning and fair immigration system
JBWalker1 on
Why was this a barge anyway? Why not a basic compound on land for supposedly a lot cheaper? Like this is only 500 people too and I feel like if you needed to build basic accomodation for 500 people on land it would be pretty easy and quick and wont involve paying huge ongoing costs for a barge.
caspian_sycamore on
Good luck for local councils to find social housing for those migrants and their soon to be resident dependents.
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>The contract for the barge, which is currently housing 400 migrants, will end in January because the Home Office says it will no longer be needed as they move to clear the backlog of asylum claims.
And where will those with rejected claims reside…? Because I don’t see them getting deported.
Good.
When I first heard of the idea I thought it was a conservatives wet dream.
I don’t really see how it was designed to solve any problem without being blatantly inhumane.
‘lets stick loads of foreign men on a boat and then report all instances of internal violence like it was completely unexpected but use it as ammo to justify our casual racism!’
This and the rwandan set up seamed like such an American import.
I understand that there is an immigration issue but this won’t fix it. Just like it’s proven fact that the death penalty doesn’t put off criminals… So now you have 400 men stuck on a boat who are going to be forming resentments (who can blame them) then if they are granted asylum they are released after living in confinement on a boat. That’s going to be worse for the local community.
It just seemed so ill thought out and as a test the water approach.
Very aware this is likely going to be an unpopular opinion on this sub but Instead of just downvoting me as an emotional response let me know your thoughts. I’m interested to hear from both sides.
More diversity for EVERYONE (except the well off you don’t have to live next to 100s of Syrians don’t worry lol)
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Boris, Rishi, suella and liztruss should pay for the whole thing out of their pocket. And the whole Rwanda stuff too.
As someone who works and lives on a ship for significant periods of time it is maddening to see people complaining about the conditions these people were housed in.
They are far better than many of our own merchant fleet
Totally weird that people would complain loudly when there’s millions of seafarers round the world living in WORSE conditions.
Nevermind the ones in this country.
Labout about to clear the backlog in a month…by just allowing everyone to stay, no questions asked.
5 years time Reform will have a field day.
Whole crisis was manufactured by the tories to manipulate the voting masses .
We should build like 20 of these barges, put them in major cities, and use them as Student Accom. I’d have been in their in a heartbeat, and it would absorb a lot of housing demand.
Could they repurpose to house British homeless people? I’m sure the uptake would be massive.
Free food and accommodation with facilities.
Well, rather than retire the Bibby Stockholme, why not tow it up the Thames and use it to house M.P’s instead of giving them a second home allowance. Win win.
Usual suspects are doom spiralling themselves in apocalyptic fantasy’s o er this pretty banal and entirely expected news I see. Well done Torygraph, you play them like a fiddle every time
I have complicated feelings about this situation.
It is wrong to keep refugees warehoused in cramped facilities with no income and barely enough in benefits to buy soap. Labour is completely right that claims need to be processed much faster. We have been wasting absolutely enormous amounts of money on housing people who are on years-long waiting lists.
At the same time, it has not escaped me that the conditions on the Bibi Stockholm are much better than many citizens are dealing with. I pay nearly £1400 per month in rent on a studio. That’s the absolute cheapest accommodation I can find that doesn’t have mould coming down the walls. I am not exaggerating. I looked for three months. There are tens of millions of citizens living in worse conditions (less food, more mould, less space) than are the people on the Bibi Stockholm.
One reason Labour was out of power for so long, allowing the Tories to destroy everything, was that they did not care even slightly about struggling British citizens unless they were pregnant or Boomers. They didn’t care about the left-behind people in the north living in towns deserted by industry and competing with hordes of low-paid foreigners for minimum-wage jobs. They didn’t care about people like me who got zero parental help and faced massive tuition fees and housing costs.
So when I see people moaning and wailing about immigrants who are getting free, clean housing and enough to eat, I do feel pretty over it.
The bit everyone seems to be missing on this is that the boat was insanely expensive for what it was.
The BBC are reporting it would have cost [“More than £20m”](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg640n3372qo) next year.
You could rent every migrant their own luxury flat in Westminster for that. (Seriously, £3300 pcm goes a very long way even in the most expensive parts of the country. If any of the migrants has become attached to Portland during their stay, they could rent this [luxurious holiday home that has been converted from a chapel](https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150327404#/?channel=RES_LET) and still have £300+ a month to spare.)
I know the barge is owned by Bibby Line – which company has the contract to operate it as an accommodation vessel for refugees?
There was only ever a back log of asylum claims because the last government gutted the department processing the claims, resulting it wasted millions on temporary housing
If only the tories hadn’t spent over a decade making it as long and as difficult as possible to come into the country legally we wouldn’t have such issues with illegal immigration. People aren’t gonna stop coming in search of a better life, nor should they imo, but if we want less coming through illegal and ya know life threatening ways we gotta have a functioning and fair immigration system. Let’s see if Labour are able to make that happen cause just shoving them all on a barge like animals or spending hundreds of millions shipping them off across the world so we don’t have to help them isn’t really what I’d call a functioning and fair immigration system
Why was this a barge anyway? Why not a basic compound on land for supposedly a lot cheaper? Like this is only 500 people too and I feel like if you needed to build basic accomodation for 500 people on land it would be pretty easy and quick and wont involve paying huge ongoing costs for a barge.
Good luck for local councils to find social housing for those migrants and their soon to be resident dependents.