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    Junior doctors to receive 20 per cent pay rise

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    1. TheTelegraph on

      **From The Telegraph:**

      Junior doctors have agreed a pay deal with the Government which will mean a 20 per cent pay rise over two years.

      The deal, which could bring an end to strikes, will need to be put to the British Medical Association’s (BMA) members.

      But the terms have been agreed between the Government and the union following pay talks last week.

      The terms would mean an extra 4 per cent on average for 202/24, on top of at least 8.8 per cent already awarded.

      They will also get an extra 6 per cent for 2024/25, topped up by a consolidated £1,000 payment.

      For those starting out, the increases will be still greater – with increases of 14 per cent for the lowest paid.

      The overall package represents a pay rise of about 20 per cent.

    2. ClassicFlavour on

      Damn 20 per cent! Fair play to the doctors and the government here.

      Edit: should have looked into this more, headline read like it was accepted. My bad! I shall find myself a corner to sit in.

    3. InformationMaster793 on

      Good. We are at real risk of becoming an exporter of very much needed professionals like doctors, their pay was in urgent need of increasing to stave this off and I’m glad the government recognised this.

    5. savvy_shoppers on

      Seems like a fair deal given pay erosion.

      If the Tories had actually negotiated in good faith then the costs spent covering strikes could have been avoided or at least minimised.

    7. Silent-Dog708 on

      When you capture an elite profession via a monopsony employer (the NHS) you have an obligation for fair remunaration

      These people don’t faff around on outlook and bemoan on reddit that there’s only 3 hours work in their 8 hour office job. They’re not having a little tantrum about WFH ending. They practice science with dire physical consequences on your mum, dad, baby or partner

      Nye Bevan took them under public sector control, and with that come certain obligations. Whether the public like it or not.

    8. seph2o on

      Whew just look at the boomers roasting in the article comments

      They’d also be the first to moan when there’s no doctors to treat their declining liver function

    9. MaxChicken23 on

      Finally some good news! It feels like the good old UK is back! Calm and in control leadership. I’m not going to miss the Tories one bit, political stunts and rants over non issues. The atmosphere of the whole country was so toxic and polarising.

    10. dyinginsect on

      Good. The last people I want distracted or stressed by money worries are doctors.

    11. annacosta13 on

      Why couldn’t previous government do the same ? Because they wanted to bring NHS to its knees and then sell it to private equity companies

    12. neeow_neeow on

      Anyone working in the productive part of the economy better lube up now. Labour will be handing out these huge pay rises to their traditional favoured groups and you’ll be paying for it.

    14. mcmonkeyplc on

      Let’s put this into perspective, I get paid more than the average doctor and my work does not save or improve anyone’s life….apart from the shareholders of a large multinational company.

      Doctors need to get more than me. It just makes sense.

    15. 5StarMan94 on

      This is good but the NHS will never actually improve until management structures and procedures get a major overhaul. It’s haemorrhaging money where it shouldn’t be and doesn’t run nearly as efficiently as it should do even with its current budget

    16. wkavinsky on

      Good.

      See, that wasn’t too hard was it?

      And, get this, the government will get ~30% of it immediately back in payroll taxes, +20% more of it if spent on good and services.

      So the real cost? Something like £500mn.

      A pittance, and less than the Tories actually spend on the Rwanda scheme, so it’s not like the money wasn’t there for it.

      Almost seems like, something, something, deliberately running down the NHS.

    18. Mister_Sith on

      So uh, what about us other public sector workers? We’re bleeding experienced and qualified people left right and centre to contractors who inevitably end up getting the contracts for work we can no longer do ourselves. I’m half tempted to jump ship myself!

    19. AestheticAdvocate on

      Hopefully civil servants will receive a decent offer too. Nowhere near this level I’m sure, but when government employees are on national minimum wage, it isn’t a good look.

    20. Complex-Biscotti3601 on

      Restored to 2008 levels(almost). Now can we discuss about international rates and being at par with an American doctor who makes 250k minimum.

      These crumbs are not supposed to be my worth. Thankfully CCT’d and fleeing succesfully.

    21. SignificanceCool3747 on

      Very well deserved. Congratulations to all doctors, thank you for your service. You are appreciated

    22. aGGLee on

      I’d be tempted to hear if any concessions have been made by either side. Junior doctors have long wanted further notice on placements and better working conditions, and the govt doesn’t want to export those they’ve trained

    23. Canipaywithclaps on

      So 4%?

      Voting no on this im afraid. I didn’t go on strike to continue to get paid less then a PA.

    24. biosolendium on

      higher wages is fair, but the government should reduce their gold-plated pension entitlement.

    25. momentimori on

      The rest of the public sector will soon be demanding similar pay rises.

      The bill will absolutely enormous.

    26. locklochlackluck on

      I think this is a fair deal for doctors, considering the broader context of public sector cuts this year and next.

      However, it’s crucial to see the details: Will primary care trusts receive more funding to cover this? In other sectors, we’ve seen salary increases, but the institutions had to find savings elsewhere to fund these raises.

      This could lead to fewer doctors and more PAs and NPs on rotation, potentially impacting the quality of service.

    28. Disastrous_Fruit1525 on

      If accepted then it’s good news, sort of. We can get back to reducing waiting lists etc. only one minor issue, how will it be paid for, remember **Tory bad screwed the economy so bad there is no money left, again!**

    29. -starchy- on

      Imagine all the Tory boomers crying about ‘unfunded’ pay rises, which hasn’t been proven, yet say nothing when their glorious messiah Liz ‘Lettuce’ Truss crashed the economy and wiped billions off the UK market.

      Absolute idiots. I know the majority of this demographic are old, but surely their short term memory loss can’t be that bad already?

    30. BetaRayPhil616 on

      This sounds like a sensible offer (to an outsider at least). Given inflation this year and next is likely to hover around 2%, effectively this is a step towards restoration without going all the way in one go.

      There’ll be another review in a few years and the demand then won’t need to be 35%, but will likely still need to be above inflation, but it sounds like a good faith move towards it to me.

    31. trophy_master1 on

      Meanwhile at 3pm we’re to be told there’s no money, everything wasn’t costed and it’s all the tories fault. Then in the autumn we’re to be raided on tax again.

      Absolute farce oh and now GPs are kicking off 😂

    32. Manzanamanana90 on

      Good. While technically it’s still a pay cut in real terms, it’s by far the best deal they’ve been offered in years and goes some way to repairing the industrial relations damage the Tories inflicted. At some point you have to take the win, even if it’s not as much as you targeted. If they don’t accept this I can’t genuinely support them any longer.