Good I’m tired of being made poorer and more miserable just because Brexit voters are to embarrassed to admit they were sold a pup
Odd-Metal8752 on
What is the row over fishing based upon? Is it motivated by wanting to protect fish populations in UK waters?
Youth mobility scheme sounds nice.
1DarkStarryNight on
BREAKING: The UK-EU deal:
*Keir Starmer has made a major late concession on fisheries to allow the EU TWELVE YEARS ongoing access to British waters on status quo arrangements. They will now expire in 2038. UK had originally sought just a four year extension.
*In return the EU has not time-limited the SPS deal, although the UK will still have to accept dynamic alignment.
*UK will also join Erasmus+ in another win for the EU.
*But the EU will, at some point, remove barriers to allow British visitors to use e-gates within the EU and will work to ease travel for for artists, a win for Starmer to fix two of the most obvious Brexit impacts.
*EU says it will work swiftly to ‘explore’ British participation in its defence fund. Language there is limited.
Alex Wickham, Bloomberg.
Primary-Effect-3691 on
More trade with India, US, EU. Despite what the usual suspects will tell you, this is good for productivity, growth, and in turn wages and public services
Express-Doughnut-562 on
Quite surprised how much stuff Starmer is actually getting done. Had to laugh at this though:
>”And with no details on any cap or time limits on youth mobility, fears of free movement returning will only increase.”
Surely we’ve worked out by now that free movement was a good thing?
ouwni on
Not sure how the youth mobility scheme will play out without knowing the time cap, 6-12 months would be great to fill skilled contractor roles and help keep the economy flowing but any longer would likely impact salaried jobs, creating more competition and more people out of work in the uk, no? Happy to be corrected on this assumption.. This will definitely benefit British people who can say, speak fluent Norwegian, or fluent Deutsch, or fluent French as those countries usually require that as a bare minimum in most of their roles, it likely wont benefit the wider British 18-30 year olds who can only speak English.. It will however massively benefit most Europeans as they’re often taught English from 4yo.
Current_Case7806 on
It’s time we took back democracy. I’m fed up with the less informed, angry, shouty lot claiming democracy ended back in 2016.
Brexit has failed. It’s not possible, there was no plan and there’s no mandate for it currently. We need to start negotiating for Brejoin and ending this stupidity forever.
Skulldo on
I really hope this at minimum involves UK based people counting as responsible people for GSPR so I can start selling to northern Ireland and the EU again.
Mail-Malone on
No details in that article about how trade will change/improve, it’s just about letting the EU fish to their hearts content in our waters, and lot of waffle about maybe e-gates access and maybe 18-30 year old frictionless travel. Nothing about trade at all.
There must be far more details to come because this isn’t a trade deal.
TokyoBaguette on
Erasmus is back? If so Brexitus ignoramus will be angry. Good.
RoyalJacko on
It’s a simple fact: Brexit has made us poorer. All Brexit promises have failed. In the words of the architect of it all, Nigel Farage: “Brexit has failed” – 2023
haphazard_chore on
Breaking, we got nothing. Like literally nothing! No egate, no access to the military funding. Just a maybe later. WTF!
thebrowncanary on
I don’t actually see any postives for the UK in all this.
Going to be another politically dificult sell for the goverment.
mark_i on
The Far right / Farage meltdown has begun I presume?
MilosEggs on
The first step in undoing the absolute shitshow that is Brexit.
MavicMini_NI on
My worry is this now gives Farage unlimited ammo for his bullshit machine.
They’ll easily say the will of the people has been ignored.
talligan on
>Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch called the deal “very concerning” and said 12 years EU access for fishing is three times longer than the government wanted.
>”We’re becoming a rule-taker from Brussels once again,” she said.
I think that’s called “compromise” Badenoch, and its not a bad thing. Its a sign of mature and responsible negotiations and is an altogether reasonable compromise.
No_Cucumber3978 on
Wait. Won’t they take £350 million a day off us for unelected Brussel sprouts with millions of immigrants taking our jobs and killing our ability to pull full pints with no fish left to fish for our farmers or something like that?
Did I miss anything? Because we wouldn’t want 48% of Brits having a meltdown Monday and kicking their cats while tearing down their free DJT poster provide by The Sun.
Please, can I have me a wet raged Brexit-shagger to myself please? Come on, just one. Please give me some Brexaggeration and have a good moan at me.
wybird on
Maybe the real Brexit was the friends we lost along the way
Danielharris1260 on
About time. Yeah brexit won the majority of the vote but a slim one at that. 48% of us didn’t want this and have all been shafted. We should’ve never gone for an extreme version of brexit when it was clear it was spilt issue. This approach makes way more sense.
macarouns on
Cue the hyperbolic whinging about how terrible a deal it is before the details have even been released
Wonderful-Support-57 on
Can anyone tell me why the fishing terms are such a huge thing?
For an island nation, we barely eat the fish in the waters surrounding us, and our fishing industry is tiny.
Is it just another case of bending over backwards to appease the wrong people yet again?
HotMachine9 on
Holy shit I didn’t expect him to be successful.
Well done Starmer.
tamim1991 on
Have people forgotten Farage’s role in Brexit and now think he’s the saviour of England? Or am I just being skewed by an overload of right wing posts on facebook?
Swimming_Possible_68 on
It’s a start I suppose.
Joining EFTA should be the next step!
DufaqIsDis on
Here come all the surrender and betrayal freak outs. Get the fainting couches at the ready!!
incomingone on
We’re not powerful anymore on the world stage, and this will only reduce further in time.
As global population goes up, and resources go down, the world will (and has) become less friendly.
We gave up a seat at the top table on the continent, heavily damaged relations with close allies and trading partners.
Sure the EU was annoying at times, prisoner voting rights, immigration, contribution costs.
You can sense check if leaving was in our overall interests. Would Putin be happy we left? I don’t see how the answer can be anything but yes.
Let’s try to forge meaningful defence, security and trade relationships with the countries closest to us. We do have NATO, but given recent events in the US, I think we should have another layer of national security.
Automatic and formulaic criticism by Conservatives/Reform is to be expected – albeit unhelpful. And they’ll be relentless disinformation in newspapers and social media.
General public – Please don’t fall for it again .
Hakarlhus on
Fuck yeah!
Reversing the mistakes of the past, whether they were ours or not, is always something to be proud of
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Good I’m tired of being made poorer and more miserable just because Brexit voters are to embarrassed to admit they were sold a pup
What is the row over fishing based upon? Is it motivated by wanting to protect fish populations in UK waters?
Youth mobility scheme sounds nice.
BREAKING: The UK-EU deal:
*Keir Starmer has made a major late concession on fisheries to allow the EU TWELVE YEARS ongoing access to British waters on status quo arrangements. They will now expire in 2038. UK had originally sought just a four year extension.
*In return the EU has not time-limited the SPS deal, although the UK will still have to accept dynamic alignment.
*UK will also join Erasmus+ in another win for the EU.
*But the EU will, at some point, remove barriers to allow British visitors to use e-gates within the EU and will work to ease travel for for artists, a win for Starmer to fix two of the most obvious Brexit impacts.
*EU says it will work swiftly to ‘explore’ British participation in its defence fund. Language there is limited.
Alex Wickham, Bloomberg.
More trade with India, US, EU. Despite what the usual suspects will tell you, this is good for productivity, growth, and in turn wages and public services
Quite surprised how much stuff Starmer is actually getting done. Had to laugh at this though:
>”And with no details on any cap or time limits on youth mobility, fears of free movement returning will only increase.”
Surely we’ve worked out by now that free movement was a good thing?
Not sure how the youth mobility scheme will play out without knowing the time cap, 6-12 months would be great to fill skilled contractor roles and help keep the economy flowing but any longer would likely impact salaried jobs, creating more competition and more people out of work in the uk, no? Happy to be corrected on this assumption.. This will definitely benefit British people who can say, speak fluent Norwegian, or fluent Deutsch, or fluent French as those countries usually require that as a bare minimum in most of their roles, it likely wont benefit the wider British 18-30 year olds who can only speak English.. It will however massively benefit most Europeans as they’re often taught English from 4yo.
It’s time we took back democracy. I’m fed up with the less informed, angry, shouty lot claiming democracy ended back in 2016.
Brexit has failed. It’s not possible, there was no plan and there’s no mandate for it currently. We need to start negotiating for Brejoin and ending this stupidity forever.
I really hope this at minimum involves UK based people counting as responsible people for GSPR so I can start selling to northern Ireland and the EU again.
No details in that article about how trade will change/improve, it’s just about letting the EU fish to their hearts content in our waters, and lot of waffle about maybe e-gates access and maybe 18-30 year old frictionless travel. Nothing about trade at all.
There must be far more details to come because this isn’t a trade deal.
Erasmus is back? If so Brexitus ignoramus will be angry. Good.
It’s a simple fact: Brexit has made us poorer. All Brexit promises have failed. In the words of the architect of it all, Nigel Farage: “Brexit has failed” – 2023
Breaking, we got nothing. Like literally nothing! No egate, no access to the military funding. Just a maybe later. WTF!
I don’t actually see any postives for the UK in all this.
Going to be another politically dificult sell for the goverment.
The Far right / Farage meltdown has begun I presume?
The first step in undoing the absolute shitshow that is Brexit.
My worry is this now gives Farage unlimited ammo for his bullshit machine.
They’ll easily say the will of the people has been ignored.
>Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch called the deal “very concerning” and said 12 years EU access for fishing is three times longer than the government wanted.
>”We’re becoming a rule-taker from Brussels once again,” she said.
I think that’s called “compromise” Badenoch, and its not a bad thing. Its a sign of mature and responsible negotiations and is an altogether reasonable compromise.
Wait. Won’t they take £350 million a day off us for unelected Brussel sprouts with millions of immigrants taking our jobs and killing our ability to pull full pints with no fish left to fish for our farmers or something like that?
Did I miss anything? Because we wouldn’t want 48% of Brits having a meltdown Monday and kicking their cats while tearing down their free DJT poster provide by The Sun.
Please, can I have me a wet raged Brexit-shagger to myself please? Come on, just one. Please give me some Brexaggeration and have a good moan at me.
Maybe the real Brexit was the friends we lost along the way
About time. Yeah brexit won the majority of the vote but a slim one at that. 48% of us didn’t want this and have all been shafted. We should’ve never gone for an extreme version of brexit when it was clear it was spilt issue. This approach makes way more sense.
Cue the hyperbolic whinging about how terrible a deal it is before the details have even been released
Can anyone tell me why the fishing terms are such a huge thing?
For an island nation, we barely eat the fish in the waters surrounding us, and our fishing industry is tiny.
Is it just another case of bending over backwards to appease the wrong people yet again?
Holy shit I didn’t expect him to be successful.
Well done Starmer.
Have people forgotten Farage’s role in Brexit and now think he’s the saviour of England? Or am I just being skewed by an overload of right wing posts on facebook?
It’s a start I suppose.
Joining EFTA should be the next step!
Here come all the surrender and betrayal freak outs. Get the fainting couches at the ready!!
We’re not powerful anymore on the world stage, and this will only reduce further in time.
As global population goes up, and resources go down, the world will (and has) become less friendly.
We gave up a seat at the top table on the continent, heavily damaged relations with close allies and trading partners.
Sure the EU was annoying at times, prisoner voting rights, immigration, contribution costs.
You can sense check if leaving was in our overall interests. Would Putin be happy we left? I don’t see how the answer can be anything but yes.
Let’s try to forge meaningful defence, security and trade relationships with the countries closest to us. We do have NATO, but given recent events in the US, I think we should have another layer of national security.
Automatic and formulaic criticism by Conservatives/Reform is to be expected – albeit unhelpful. And they’ll be relentless disinformation in newspapers and social media.
General public – Please don’t fall for it again .
Fuck yeah!
Reversing the mistakes of the past, whether they were ours or not, is always something to be proud of