Kneecap say terrorism charge is ‘political policing’

Insofar as preventing people showing support for terrorist organisations…yes?

It’s a bit bloody cheeky for them to claim they’re being prevented from criticising Israel. If they’d said ‘the israeli government are a shower of cunts conducting a genocidal campaign against the free people of Palestine’ there would be no charge to answer.

It is *that easy* to criticise Israel without having to support islamofascist organisations or delving into antisemetism.

‘But …. but … it doesn’t count when we are trying to be rebellious and edgy to appeal to teenagers. It is just performative terror group support!’

Everybody is going to say the thing that I agree with so I have decided to say something else.

Why is this guy looking at me like I just said something a bit nasty to his little brother and he wants to intimidate me into being scared of what he might do despite the fact that he really hopes I will just get the message and leave it alone?

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Ooo Billy big bollocks who want to be punky anti establishment then want to look at legal action against the decision?

Cake and eat it?

You supported a proscribed terror group, amongst other vulgar things including inciting violence and killings of political persons.

I hope we’ll see all those from the left, who advocated jail time for that woman who tweeted “inciting” violence during the soutport riots will equally condem these too?

What’s the actual penalty for this likely to be if found guilty? 

Is it community service or a few months in prison? 

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As someone who is pro-Palestinian this shite infuriates me to no end. “Ooh let us be edgy and wave a flag of an Iranian geopolitical tool”. It was obviously gonna be used by the opposite side as evidence that any and all pro-Palestinians are actually all anti-semites and terrorist sympathisers.

No interest in understanding why Hezbollah is “controversial” (to say the fucking least). Speak to actual Lebanese people who’ve had their PM assassinated by them, who have obfuscated every investigation into the Beirut Port explosion (and who are widely believed to have kept the ammonium nitrate in the warehouses despite warnings) and who have held Lebanon and the Lebanese people to ransom for decades, all to further the aims of the Iranian state. As if they care about Palestinians.

Wanna show solidarity to Palestinians? They actually have their own flag you could’ve waved. Instead, these morons end up actively harming the cause by waving a flag of an Iranian proxy. But obviously researching these things requires an actual curiosity in the politics and history of the region, beyond just ‘ooh let us be edgy and stick it to the establishment’. Silly twats.

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You can’t hold up a Hezbollah flag then cry when you’re arrested. Pathetic.

I’m not convinced waiving a flag should be sufficient evidence of such an offence. I think there should need to be other activities e.g. terrorist activities, raising funds, writing articles, speeches, lyrics, social posts etc for conviction. And the bar should be resonably high imo.

Also, imo artists should have some more leeway for expression than others.

Honestly, it isn’t them that’s annoying it’s the fans.

They are so fucking unbearable. “I’m on the right side of history, I don’t want to get old and be asked why I didn’t do more”

“Thanks for saying this, I love these guys, FREE PALESTINE”

They’re, making music and profiting off losers that tweet all day rather than actually do anything worthwhile with their time. You aren’t the MLK of your time, you aren’t the Suffragettes. You aren’t even Diane Abbott.

It’s embarrassing the amount of slacktism on the left. Jeremy fucking Corbyn had to turn up at a festive just for them to come out of their K-Holes and remember they’ve got the vote before promptly forgetting again.

This is the “left wing” (you’re not left wing if you’re supporting Islamic fundamentalism) equivalent of people calling for the murder of immigrants online and then saying they got arrested for mean Facebook posts. It’s grifter behaviour.

Honestly, it seems like they’ve only got themselves to blame for this.

Yep. Commit a political crime and get subjected to political policing.

It’s not difficult. Don’t support terrorists.

When our country has gone out to support both diplomatically and militarily a pariah-state that’s committed far more atrocities than Hezbollah ever has, it becomes clear that this isn’t about morals. No one would catch a charge for saying “Up the IDF” whilst waving an Israeli flag, our government even made sure to parachute staunch supporters of these brutalisers into safe seats. So why care so much over Kneecap? This clearly isn’t coming from a moral high ground.

If you think supporting terrorists is fine and shouldn’t be a legal problem then that’s certainly an opinion. But yeh, it’s one that I disagree with and it is currently subject to a specific law which you would presumably like repealed?

The idea that it’s pearl clutching being concerned about public support for terrorism , but *not* pearl clutching getting all concerned about alleged support terrorists and incitement to violence *being investigated and tested according to the law* seems absurd to me. That any such concerns about public support for terrorists and potentially incitement to violence can just be dismissed as silly seems worse than silly itself.

If you appear to show public support for a terrorist group that recently carried out a horrendous atrocity and suggest killing politicians is fine after a number have been killed then it doesn’t seem unreasonable at all that such behaviour isn’t just immoral but might have legal consequences proportionate to the seriousness of the offence. Thus an investigation. It may never go to court and if it does they may not be convicted of anything because the actions may be judged as superficial.

I suspect that if they’d showed support for a group that had recently massacred a group of transgender people or joked that killing immigrants was fine then some of those dismissing being concerned about this kind of behaviour as ‘pearl clutching’ would have a different reaction. Though no doubt pure American style 1st amendmenters might be more consistent.

I don’t expect any kind of disproportionate punishment , I wouldn’t be surprised if nothing comes of it – but showing support for terrorists and joking about killing politicians isn’t something we should necessarily encourage or laugh off. And well it’s okay by me , just a bit of banter , therefore no one should even investigate doesn’t seem like a very good way to run a society.

Discussion topic,

what criteria would make Israel not a terrorist organisation?

Good example of how stuff changes, the new leader of Syria used to be part of a prescribed terrorist organisation but no one seems to mind.

It fills me with great pleasure that if found guilty they will now be burdened with the title of ‘terrorist’ for the rest of their lives.

Lol

These guys are deliberately being edgy and trying to be anti establishment by supporting terrorists. Their whole schtick is being IRA supporters which is borderline in the first place. Particularly amusing when they then fight for funding from the UK state they hate so much.

Their support for Hamas and Hezbollah wasn’t even plausibly deniable and that’s why they’ve been pinged for it.