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    No evidence foreign students are abusing UK graduate visas, review finds


    No evidence foreign students are abusing UK graduate visas, review finds

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/14/no-evidence-foreign-students-abusing-uk-graduate-visas-review?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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    1. bearai on

      Interested to hear the reaction from some users in a previous thread claiming the vast majority of international students are abusing the system…

      But regardless – everyone in the Higher Education sector has known there is no abuse for a very, very long time. As much as I hope this will stop the government’s attack on students, who simply want to study in our world-leading institutions, I really don’t think it will. Cleverly et al. seem immune to evidence-based decisions at the moment.

    2. Calm_Error153 on

      Here is the full report:

      [https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/analysis-of-migrants-use-of-the-graduate-route/analysis-of-migrants-use-of-the-graduate-route](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/analysis-of-migrants-use-of-the-graduate-route/analysis-of-migrants-use-of-the-graduate-route)

      The first graph shows the number of visas given afterwards and the number before this path was introduced. It went from 88% not having further leave to 47%.

      That means there wasn’t any abuse and it was being used as intended. To get a foot in the door and eventually get ILR/Citizenship.

      If thats something the government is concerned about then we are going to see restrictions being put in place.

    3. 0xSnib on

      Wait I’m confused, that’s not what the Daily Mail screamed in it’s EXCLUSIVE

      (I was going to link it but I’m not giving them clicks)

    4. BarryHelmet on

      Wait, so everyone who screeches about that in here constantly turned out to be talking shite? Surely no…

    5. Burnage on

      That’s strange, there have been so many comments on here about how almost all foreign students are abusing this system.

      Surely people wouldn’t be going on the internet and talking bollocks.

    6. Disastrous-Yak230 on

      Yeah there’s no evidence so it’s not really happening. But it is.

    8. Putrid-Location6396 on

      It’s surprising they’ve chosen this fight. You would think that we would want as many educated workers as possible

    9. PinkPrincess-2001 on

      Some people are abusing them, some are not. The best Unis can do is monitor attendance. If someone manages to work over 20 hours and attend classes reasonably then Idk what more a Uni can do. It is hard to catch these people but they ruin it for honest students who work under 20 hours per week and don’t misuse visas.

    10. Ok_Cap_4669 on

      Having gone to Uni. the international students mostly came here to put an English Uni on their CV then fucked off back to whatever country they came from. Exceptions being a few countries in Africa and South America.

      The main reason was if you were not here on some grant or scheme you had to be fucking loaded. it costs a lot to come study here from abroad. It wasn’t unusual for some of the Asian students to rent multiple studio apartments to house their stuff while at uni. These private accommodation studio apartments were not cheep. 9k+ a year. more if they went for the penthouse apartments

    11. Mrfunnynuts on

      So picture this – you have wealthy, UK educated and adjusted (mostly) foreigners, whose countries have fit the bill for the first 18 years of their life, who wants to stay here and do skilled work which we don’t have enough people to do, and pay tax and healthcare surcharges etc, they mostly don’t use the NHS because it’s so shit compared to the private healthcare they get back home – why are these people a problem again?

      Obviously we should be targeting UK workers at areas of massive deficit but in the short term, why not just tighten the list of jobs that qualify rather than salary limits etc. Chemical engineer? Yes. Hairdresser? No.

      Salaries like that are hard to come by outside of London for a lot of roles, even stem.

    12. heshablitz_ on

      114,000 graduate route visas were granted for main applicants in 2023 with a further 30,000 granted for dependants.

      Fucking hell, 144,000 people a year just via higher education