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  1. RockinOneThreeTwo on

    This isn’t going to get popular support and won’t happen as a result, humanity is far too selfish to do the right thing here.

  2. AnselaJonla on

    Farrowing crates: metal cages that hold a sow immobile after giving birth for up to five weeks.

    Imagine being held by metal bars barely wide enough for you to lay down on bare concrete with your limbs beneath you, for five weeks. She can’t turn, she can’t roll, she can’t build her straw up into a nest, she can’t properly look after her babies. All she can do is stand there, helpless.

  3. Telluricpear719 on

    Needs to be followed by a ban on importing pork from countries that also do this.

  4. West_Category_4634 on

    Realistically:

    Consumers / the population need to choose between cheap meat or ethical meat. You can’t have both.

    Same goes for all those clothes and trainers that are made in sweatshops abroad.

    And the general population seems happy to turn a blind eye to both the above.

  5. JeremyWheels on

    I haven’t eaten meat/dairy for 4 years and i’m *still* learning about terribly cruel practices that i didn’t know existed.

    Animal agriculture in this country may be better than some other countries, but it’s still absolutrely barbaric.

  6. SomeSortaWeeb on

    did you know that surveys suggest that around 25% of gen Z don’t eat meat? just throwing that out there if we’re talking about ending cruel practices surrounding animal farming

  7. HawkAsAWeapon on

    It’s worth noting that the NPA (National Pig Association, who represent UK pork farmers) lobbied against a proposed ban in 2019/2020, as giving the pigs better welfare would cut their profits too much.

    Animal farmers only care about profits, and will continue to abuse animals until the consumer stops paying them.

  8. Budget-Shopping6712 on

    We should ban halal slaughtering then to, as with halal slaughtering you cut the throat of the animal with a sharp knife and let it bleed out. That’s totally not“humane”.

  9. Appropriate-Dig-7080 on

    Just a quick reminder that there’s no such thing as ethical or humane animal agriculture/meat. If you eat meat and dairy you’re supporting and funding animal abuse.

    Give it some thought.

  10. BusyBeeBridgette on

    I get why they are used, mother pigs crushing their babes is a real problem. Especially if you are trying to make money. However a great alternative actually comes from Clarkson, called ‘Clarkson’s Ring’. Essentially just a round home/hut with a raised bar following the wall so if the mother pig goes to lay down, the piglets are pushed behind the bar to vastly reduce the crushing.

  11. ArtComputers on

    Two meats I would recommend to avoid as much as possible are pork and chicken. Pork and chicken is so cheap in this country, nearly all of it is factory farmed otherwise it wouldn’t be profitable.

    I have cut down on meat a lot, but if I do eat it, I try my hardest to stick to cheap beef from a local farmers market like mince, bavette, hanger etc from my farmers market. It’s not perfect, but its a tiny step in the right direction.

    I think one area that looks promising is shellfish farming. From what I have seen, farmed mussels/oysters/clams are possibly the most sustainable and ethical source of animal protein at the moment. I have replaced a lot of my meat consumption with tinned shellfish (mussels in particular)

  12. Ninja_icecream on

    I was an Agri student in South Africa in the 80’s and this was considered inhumane then, even amongst the other brutal practices at the time.

    I can’t believe it still goes on.

  13. fish-and-cushion on

    For as long as animals are used as commodities, they’ll be treated as such

  14. BoatPhysical4367 on

    Is there a link for a petition to sign to end it? I don’t want to click on the link because the images bother me too much

  15. ElvishMystical on

    Never going to happen. People are far too attached to their fry ups, bacon sarnies, and pork roasts.

    Maybe if this was happening to dogs it would end overnight, but many people don’t see pigs as any other than a food source so they’re not as important.

    The fact that it’s not possible to eat meat naturally is lost on most meat eaters.

    The barrier to resolving many environmental issues is capitalism, and for as long as we’re attached to capitalism and our war based economic system there’s not going to be much progress on animal rights or environmental issues.

    You could argue that capitalism can be used to create an environmentally friend society, but such a society is more expensive, and how do you get past the inequal distribution of resources and profit incentive? We cannot even tackle poverty, let alone animal rights or environmental issues.

  16. Next_Drama1717 on

    Whole meat and diary industry is cruel. Research cows milk? Ps. I eat meat and diary.

  17. Just for some information because as is standard on Reddit when farming is mentioned there’s a lot of people on here talking about topics they have no knowledge about. it is estimated that the transition to flexible farrowing would cost £5000-6000 per sow to retrofit old bars and around £8000 to build new barns. The National Pig Association have suggested and are pushing for a voluntary transition to flexible farrowing over the next 20 years with farmers supporting the idea

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/what-is-the-future-for-flexible-farrowing-systems

    However this all comes with the caveat that you cannot expect farmers over here who are already on very thin margins (with pig farming being one of the hardest to make profitable) to compete with imports that don’t meet those standards. British pork is already a world leader when it comes to free range with roughly 50% of all our produce being free range which is far higher than most other comparable countries in the EU and further afield.

  18. Browncoatdan on

    Nation of Animal lovers my ass.

    You can’t love animals, and eat them too.