Oh good because that’ll stop the murderers from strangling people.
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cornedbeef101 on
As long as they don’t ban the system of a down song by mistake.
ICutDownTrees on
How exactly is this going to work? Is this basically a porn ban?
HenrikBanjo on
But real violence they won’t even bother to prosecute.
UK justice is now just a performative space for virtue signalling.
Enforce the existing laws before implementing unenforceable new ones.
Euclid_Interloper on
Other than political virtue signalling, what does a ban actually achieve?
Anyone with an ounce of digital literacy knows how to use a VPN. Actually, you’d be kind of silly not to use a VPN these days.
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Lost-Droids on
Instead of banning things (which wont work given the internet is global and any restriction is easily bypassed) we educate kids on whats right and wrong or acceptable and not.
jeremybeadleshand on
>It is already a criminal offence to possess porn depicting life-threatening acts, such as graphic strangulation.
Another new law for something already illegal then?
Additional_Pickle_59 on
I nominate myself to be part of the team to watch and see if it contains strangulation.
I would like my office to be a dark room and have a lock on the door
Thx
WeRW2020 on
My main porn viewing came when I was a teenager, roughly 2003-2008, and I can’t remember seeing a lot of violent material, most of it was quite vanilla. Not saying violent pornography didn’t exist, but you would have to really go and want to find the nasty stuff. It would probably be in the same category as BDSM.
On the rare occasion I look for porn today, it is noticeable how much more extreme the baseline is. On tube sites choking, spitting etc is front and centre rather than being a fringe interest. Not good, but I fear the genie is out the bottle.
I_am_legend-ary on
Utter nonsense.
I’m not into extreme porn, but trying to police what consenting adults watch is absurd.
Where does this policy stop? First face sitting now strangulation, next humiliation, spanking??????
We think a ban will stop children watching this content, it won’t and it never will, the internet will always find away
We need to address the issue in schools and homes, children need to be taught that what is seen online is not representative of the real word.
LordLucian on
Oh good because the one thing keeping me awake at night was worrying about the impact of strangulation pornography, Not climate change, the economy, potential world war 3 or the crime rate… nope not me.
shark-with-a-horn on
I mean there has to be a limit right?
Strangulation can be accidentally fatal very easily and can cause medical issues even if not. There’s ethical issues around paying porn actresses to be strangled when they could die from it.
As a society we wouldn’t support stabbing somebody on camera and calling it porn just because some people would get off to it.
Forte69 on
But it’s fine to watch someone get strangled to death on a TV show.
Porn is acting, so what’s the difference?
ohajik98 on
Strangulation or any form of asphyxiation play? Haven’t read the article
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SecTeff on
To make the case for this there needs to be a strong evidence base that watching this type of porn increases cases of non consensual violence.
Is there evidence for this?
You then need evidence a ban would be effectively enforced (difficult) and that it doesn’t create other harms such as pushing people off better regulated websites that check actors are consenting and if legal age towards more unregulated online spaces.
You then need to weigh up the harm from violence against the harm to people’s freedom of expression as a human right.
DandyBallbag on
It’s a violent pornography, choking chicks and sodomy. The kinda shit you get on your TV.
SecTeff on
Would this ban extend to literature where BDSM practices are widespread?
Seems we are living in a new age of censorship of sexual practices.
ultraboomkin on
BDSM is fun and enjoyable for a lot of people. TIL I’m a misogynist because my boyfriend likes being choked and I like doing it to him.
homelaberator on
Porn does seem to be a special category of thing that can warrant a different approach to other content.
The big problem is that porn is still how a lot of people “learn” about sex. People seem generally oblivious to the risks not just of strangulation/asphyxiation but a range of other sexual practices since the only place they see sex is in porn, and there isn’t much content that shows how sex works in real life.
There’s also the reality that with the internet it’s far easier for children to stumble across content that they probably shouldn’t. We regulated film and TV to restrict certain content, so we will regulate online content in the same way. Not many people are complaining about the watershed or the existence of 15/18/R18 film/game classification as some horrible impost on adults.
People say that a ban like this can’t be enforced, but already the major porn platforms do geo-restrict certain content. That makes some difference. Yes, you will still find all the dodgy and illegal stuff out there if you look hard enough but when it’s off the major platforms it makes it harder to stumble across. It makes it generally less common.
The reality is that we have regulated media basically forever, and there probably is, on balance, some good in regulating what content is available for consumption. The kind of free for all that the early internet gave us couldn’t last and as we figure out how the new media landscape fits in with our broader culture, we’ll likely continue to regulate it.
Or maybe we just need some 70s style public education films showing the horror of sex strangling gone wrong, or the tragic effects of a2m etc.
ReggieLFC on
Governments should always try to avoid legislating bans that are extremely difficult to enforce. The inevitable failure to enforce the bans undermines the rest of the legal system.
EdmundTheInsulter on
The government made a law due to strangulation porn but they failed to actually mention strangulation leaving it only illegal if it appeared to risk fatality.
Edit – sexual strangulation scenes in films ‘Filth’ and ‘Frenzy’
-Eat_The_Rich- on
How about instead of policy for dumb people you just educate people that if they want to pee on someone they have to have a conversation about it first…….
Like cmon guys we aren’t animals…..
CatGoblinMode on
This is a stupid ban pushed out by dinosaurs and I wish Baronesses were stripped of their ability to write “reports” which dictated government policy after the Cass report turned out to be a bigoted disaster which didn’t even include the views of trans people or doctors who treated them.
I think just about every woman I’ve been with has begged me to choke them and none of them were the porn watching type.
Can we instead focus our resources on doing things to _actually_ combat hate and violence against women? Perhaps by reforming education around it? Offering widespread prevention programs?
THPSJimbles on
I wonder if they’re gonna ban violence in video games and movies next!
cap_xy on
People are disgusting, I don’t care about your “kinks” and firmly believe live and let live…. But the normalisation of choking, spitting and other degrading acts under the guise of freedom … Is fucking gross and such a weird thing to promote – even in this very thread.
BigMasterDingDong on
Wait what do we mean by this? Like someone being strangled till they pass out or like choking and stuff?
Because I’m not sure what this porn is depicting but if it’s the latter… in my (albeit limited) experience quite a lot of women are into that and it’s not “violent” in any way…
BasegTard on
The police can’t even stop CP being shared on Discord servers either because of incompetence or lack of manpower now there increasing the work load by 10???
Francis_Tumblety on
What is “graphic strangulation”? That feels like a loose definition big enough to drive an entire kink through. I’m guessing it will come down to some arbitrary opinion of old fart in a wig. That’s not exactly safe.
vengarlof on
Violent new arrival strangles someone? Let off with a warning
Two consenting adults engage in consensual sexual act recording themselves? STRAIGHT TO JAIL
SB-121 on
Nor even a year into their term and Labour are back to banning porn.
AstraLover69 on
So what does this mean? If a guy holds a woman’s throat in any capacity, it’s illegal? Is deep throating illegal too?
They need to release more information on what exactly constitutes “violent pornography”.
Can an adult possess videos of these “illegal” activities?
throwaway265378 on
I think the problem here is that, while sex acts like this are fine when you know what you’re doing and there’s consent between both parties, porn videos aren’t going to take a 5 minute break to explain consent and safety before doing an act.
That lack of education I can definitely see being harmful when teenagers are exposed to these acts and want to try mimicking them. So I don’t think banning porn from showing them is a bad thing
Pheasant_Plucker84 on
Violent pornographeeeey
Choking chicks and somomeheyhey
Turbulent-Grade-3559 on
It’s a violent pornography, choking chicks and sodomy, the kind of shit you get on your TV…
Potential-Yoghurt245 on
This won’t change anything, people are still going to be doing this kinky people gonna kink.
Mr_Zeldion on
Good..I once watched a strangulation porno and thought.. you know what.. I’m gonna go do my own strangulation porno!
Christ. It’ll get to the point where they regulate the porn industry so much that a kiss on a hand is the most you’ll have to work with. And at the same time I can firmly believe the sexual harassment and assaults will only increase due to completely removing all outlets from what could be very sexually sick and frustrated offenders who used to just get by watching this stuff online.
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Oh good because that’ll stop the murderers from strangling people.
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As long as they don’t ban the system of a down song by mistake.
How exactly is this going to work? Is this basically a porn ban?
But real violence they won’t even bother to prosecute.
UK justice is now just a performative space for virtue signalling.
Enforce the existing laws before implementing unenforceable new ones.
Other than political virtue signalling, what does a ban actually achieve?
Anyone with an ounce of digital literacy knows how to use a VPN. Actually, you’d be kind of silly not to use a VPN these days.
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Instead of banning things (which wont work given the internet is global and any restriction is easily bypassed) we educate kids on whats right and wrong or acceptable and not.
>It is already a criminal offence to possess porn depicting life-threatening acts, such as graphic strangulation.
Another new law for something already illegal then?
I nominate myself to be part of the team to watch and see if it contains strangulation.
I would like my office to be a dark room and have a lock on the door
Thx
My main porn viewing came when I was a teenager, roughly 2003-2008, and I can’t remember seeing a lot of violent material, most of it was quite vanilla. Not saying violent pornography didn’t exist, but you would have to really go and want to find the nasty stuff. It would probably be in the same category as BDSM.
On the rare occasion I look for porn today, it is noticeable how much more extreme the baseline is. On tube sites choking, spitting etc is front and centre rather than being a fringe interest. Not good, but I fear the genie is out the bottle.
Utter nonsense.
I’m not into extreme porn, but trying to police what consenting adults watch is absurd.
Where does this policy stop? First face sitting now strangulation, next humiliation, spanking??????
We think a ban will stop children watching this content, it won’t and it never will, the internet will always find away
We need to address the issue in schools and homes, children need to be taught that what is seen online is not representative of the real word.
Oh good because the one thing keeping me awake at night was worrying about the impact of strangulation pornography, Not climate change, the economy, potential world war 3 or the crime rate… nope not me.
I mean there has to be a limit right?
Strangulation can be accidentally fatal very easily and can cause medical issues even if not. There’s ethical issues around paying porn actresses to be strangled when they could die from it.
As a society we wouldn’t support stabbing somebody on camera and calling it porn just because some people would get off to it.
But it’s fine to watch someone get strangled to death on a TV show.
Porn is acting, so what’s the difference?
Strangulation or any form of asphyxiation play? Haven’t read the article
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To make the case for this there needs to be a strong evidence base that watching this type of porn increases cases of non consensual violence.
Is there evidence for this?
You then need evidence a ban would be effectively enforced (difficult) and that it doesn’t create other harms such as pushing people off better regulated websites that check actors are consenting and if legal age towards more unregulated online spaces.
You then need to weigh up the harm from violence against the harm to people’s freedom of expression as a human right.
It’s a violent pornography, choking chicks and sodomy. The kinda shit you get on your TV.
Would this ban extend to literature where BDSM practices are widespread?
Seems we are living in a new age of censorship of sexual practices.
BDSM is fun and enjoyable for a lot of people. TIL I’m a misogynist because my boyfriend likes being choked and I like doing it to him.
Porn does seem to be a special category of thing that can warrant a different approach to other content.
The big problem is that porn is still how a lot of people “learn” about sex. People seem generally oblivious to the risks not just of strangulation/asphyxiation but a range of other sexual practices since the only place they see sex is in porn, and there isn’t much content that shows how sex works in real life.
There’s also the reality that with the internet it’s far easier for children to stumble across content that they probably shouldn’t. We regulated film and TV to restrict certain content, so we will regulate online content in the same way. Not many people are complaining about the watershed or the existence of 15/18/R18 film/game classification as some horrible impost on adults.
People say that a ban like this can’t be enforced, but already the major porn platforms do geo-restrict certain content. That makes some difference. Yes, you will still find all the dodgy and illegal stuff out there if you look hard enough but when it’s off the major platforms it makes it harder to stumble across. It makes it generally less common.
The reality is that we have regulated media basically forever, and there probably is, on balance, some good in regulating what content is available for consumption. The kind of free for all that the early internet gave us couldn’t last and as we figure out how the new media landscape fits in with our broader culture, we’ll likely continue to regulate it.
Or maybe we just need some 70s style public education films showing the horror of sex strangling gone wrong, or the tragic effects of a2m etc.
Governments should always try to avoid legislating bans that are extremely difficult to enforce. The inevitable failure to enforce the bans undermines the rest of the legal system.
The government made a law due to strangulation porn but they failed to actually mention strangulation leaving it only illegal if it appeared to risk fatality.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_63_of_the_Criminal_Justice_and_Immigration_Act_2008
Edit – sexual strangulation scenes in films ‘Filth’ and ‘Frenzy’
How about instead of policy for dumb people you just educate people that if they want to pee on someone they have to have a conversation about it first…….
Like cmon guys we aren’t animals…..
This is a stupid ban pushed out by dinosaurs and I wish Baronesses were stripped of their ability to write “reports” which dictated government policy after the Cass report turned out to be a bigoted disaster which didn’t even include the views of trans people or doctors who treated them.
I think just about every woman I’ve been with has begged me to choke them and none of them were the porn watching type.
Can we instead focus our resources on doing things to _actually_ combat hate and violence against women? Perhaps by reforming education around it? Offering widespread prevention programs?
I wonder if they’re gonna ban violence in video games and movies next!
People are disgusting, I don’t care about your “kinks” and firmly believe live and let live…. But the normalisation of choking, spitting and other degrading acts under the guise of freedom … Is fucking gross and such a weird thing to promote – even in this very thread.
Wait what do we mean by this? Like someone being strangled till they pass out or like choking and stuff?
Because I’m not sure what this porn is depicting but if it’s the latter… in my (albeit limited) experience quite a lot of women are into that and it’s not “violent” in any way…
The police can’t even stop CP being shared on Discord servers either because of incompetence or lack of manpower now there increasing the work load by 10???
What is “graphic strangulation”? That feels like a loose definition big enough to drive an entire kink through. I’m guessing it will come down to some arbitrary opinion of old fart in a wig. That’s not exactly safe.
Violent new arrival strangles someone? Let off with a warning
Two consenting adults engage in consensual sexual act recording themselves? STRAIGHT TO JAIL
Nor even a year into their term and Labour are back to banning porn.
So what does this mean? If a guy holds a woman’s throat in any capacity, it’s illegal? Is deep throating illegal too?
They need to release more information on what exactly constitutes “violent pornography”.
Can an adult possess videos of these “illegal” activities?
I think the problem here is that, while sex acts like this are fine when you know what you’re doing and there’s consent between both parties, porn videos aren’t going to take a 5 minute break to explain consent and safety before doing an act.
That lack of education I can definitely see being harmful when teenagers are exposed to these acts and want to try mimicking them. So I don’t think banning porn from showing them is a bad thing
Violent pornographeeeey
Choking chicks and somomeheyhey
It’s a violent pornography, choking chicks and sodomy, the kind of shit you get on your TV…
This won’t change anything, people are still going to be doing this kinky people gonna kink.
Good..I once watched a strangulation porno and thought.. you know what.. I’m gonna go do my own strangulation porno!
Christ. It’ll get to the point where they regulate the porn industry so much that a kiss on a hand is the most you’ll have to work with. And at the same time I can firmly believe the sexual harassment and assaults will only increase due to completely removing all outlets from what could be very sexually sick and frustrated offenders who used to just get by watching this stuff online.