It could be a good tool for noncehunting but still feels kinda weird
ReddyBlueBlue on
Palantir is used by two out of the five eyes now (that we know of). Kind of an odd name to choose considering the LOTR crystal balls they’re named after corrupt the users and manipulate them.
setokaiba22 on
I wish people would post the article in the comments when it’s behind a paywall
SWTRADERLEGEND on
Maybe start with the people who are actually committing crimes
vaguelypurple on
This is not to help or protect you. It is about predicting crime to police your thoughts and control you and what you can say or do. This is incredibly dystopian and authoritarian.
00DEADBEEF on
How the hell do they get details about people’s sex lives, philosophical beliefs, political beliefs, etc, in the first place?
And if we take away one half of this sentence:
> Persons suspected of having committed or being about to commit a criminal offence
Do we get
> Persons suspected being about to commit a criminal offence
?
Minority Report is real.
cosmic_monsters_inc on
And how exactly are they getting that information to start with?
NGeoTeacher on
Everyone should be using a VPN and a secure browser at this point. I wish I was tech savvy enough to know more about how these things work, but the more I can do to ensure that my online activities are private, the better. I lead a pretty unexciting online life that’s far from criminal, and I still don’t want the police knowing any more about me than is available through public record.
gogul1980 on
It’s the UK. Get ready for the first ever recording of an AI tool feeling sudden and unrelenting boredom.
Disastrous-Net4993 on
Palantir is a fascist implementation tool. We need a zero tolerance attitude towards it.
GBrunt on
“The police memo states that Nectar will “require and be used to access” 11 different types of “special category information” held on an unspecified number of individuals. This information includes “race”, “political opinions”, “sex life”, “religion”, **”“philosophical beliefs”**, **“trade union membership”** and **“health”**.
It is understood that as many as 80 separate data sources, ranging from traffic camera data to **intelligence files**, are available to be processed by the software.”
So NHS data being scraped. Union membership?? Reddit and other social media info for politics undoubtedly. How – the fuck – is all this relevent to policing and ‘protecting victims’????
Clearly a national security cluster fuck that we’re handing over to a foreign government, namely the US. And to think that people moaned about EU overreach with bendy bananas. This is a dystopian mess by comparison.
richardathome on
Phew! Finally I’m safe from tracking. I’m an atheist and um… , no, forget I said anything.
How about those Football games eh?!
Present_Reach_6860 on
Coppers cba to investigate child abuse as it’s happing in person, or even bother to follow things up. Sure the technology exists, but they’ll probably do fuck all with it
ExistentialRosicky on
I’m sorry, but if the government implement this, I will never vote for them. Insane police overreach.
maxi12311111 on
Shiiit sex life 0 beliefs 0 🤣 enjoy that information
TurnLooseTheKitties on
The police state and the crime of thought creeps upon us
leahcar83 on
Whilst I am worried about the technology itself, I’m even more worried about the police having access to it. As it stands I don’t think the police have displayed that they can be trusted to not abuse this kind of information, but tbf living in London my view of the police is based on my experiences with and what I read about the Met, which I accept may not be a fair view of police forces in other parts of the country.
Optimaldeath on
Police losing the investigative abilities required for the job, leaving it increasingly to some automated system by some sketchy data broker and leaving the officers to just be there as purely enforcement without thought is how tyranny starts.
alexmlb3598 on
Holding a gun to everyone’s head and calling it ‘protection’…
Adept_Deer_5976 on
Classic case of just because we can, doesn’t mean that we should – or allow them too
brewshakes on
Don’t use social media that requires your real identity.
mixxituk on
I for one welcome our social media scouring traffic camera data point gathering overlords
CrushingPride on
Palantir is essentially supervillian technology. They were heavily projecting when they picked the name. A software package that can give the satellite location, known associates, home address, and political beliefs of any person. Ai algorithms that can recognise their face. Plug it in to a drone with airstrike capabilities, and type in the name of someone you don’t want to live anymore.
Or, get a fleet of drones, type “people who don’t like my government” into the search function. Sit back with your coffee and wait to be declared the un-opposed dictator of the Human Race.
rabbi-AYE on
I work for a tech company that regularly buy in products from competitor companies and play around with them. After they’re done the products are left to ‘experiment’ with and the only thing I have hands on experience with was a camera from a well known chinese manufacturer which was pulled apart and had a thermal sensor added as a 2nd ‘head’ so to speak, that went back to an AInvr and the things that could be picked up on by this system were really shocking honestly, and this was a good 6-7 years ago. We actually had to post notices on the door to our floor saying if you entered this floor, this thing was building a profile on you and was generating data on x,y,z and it made a lot of people uncomfortable. Especially women.
Oh it was also pinging off a server somewhere in china once every 3-4 months. Even on an isolated setup we were seeing it still send a single ping somewhere over there somehow.
AI will make sure none of us have secrets.
GianfrancoZoey on
We have a government who are getting further and further into bed with an actual facist organisation while also using our awful anti-terrorism legislation to make it illegal to express support for an organisation who protest genocide
Starmer and Co are exactly as authoritarian as we all knew they would be. The scariest part is they’re not going to be re-elected which means whatever right wing party follows them will be handed the tools of oppression while also having it have been normalised to arrest people for protesting against facists.
Independent-Suit-835 on
Are yes, the infallible police… whats the saying? If you cant beat them join them…
Majority of the force is corrupt, in my few years in banking it was honestly shocking how many small side business bank accounts we had for policemen, mostly detectives.
Steer clear of them as best you can, if you cant then get into the fold or youre fucked.
SkullDump on
Great news. If they assess my sex life then there’s a decent chance they’ll take so much pity on me they might let me off.
GroceryPlastic7954 on
Thank God for that. Finally, someone can tell me what’s wrong with me!
A true blessing.
Next-Ability2934 on
If they want to work out your personality and read people’s minds, they might as well do a deal with Google.
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It could be a good tool for noncehunting but still feels kinda weird
Palantir is used by two out of the five eyes now (that we know of). Kind of an odd name to choose considering the LOTR crystal balls they’re named after corrupt the users and manipulate them.
I wish people would post the article in the comments when it’s behind a paywall
Maybe start with the people who are actually committing crimes
This is not to help or protect you. It is about predicting crime to police your thoughts and control you and what you can say or do. This is incredibly dystopian and authoritarian.
How the hell do they get details about people’s sex lives, philosophical beliefs, political beliefs, etc, in the first place?
And if we take away one half of this sentence:
> Persons suspected of having committed or being about to commit a criminal offence
Do we get
> Persons suspected being about to commit a criminal offence
?
Minority Report is real.
And how exactly are they getting that information to start with?
Everyone should be using a VPN and a secure browser at this point. I wish I was tech savvy enough to know more about how these things work, but the more I can do to ensure that my online activities are private, the better. I lead a pretty unexciting online life that’s far from criminal, and I still don’t want the police knowing any more about me than is available through public record.
It’s the UK. Get ready for the first ever recording of an AI tool feeling sudden and unrelenting boredom.
Palantir is a fascist implementation tool. We need a zero tolerance attitude towards it.
“The police memo states that Nectar will “require and be used to access” 11 different types of “special category information” held on an unspecified number of individuals. This information includes “race”, “political opinions”, “sex life”, “religion”, **”“philosophical beliefs”**, **“trade union membership”** and **“health”**.
It is understood that as many as 80 separate data sources, ranging from traffic camera data to **intelligence files**, are available to be processed by the software.”
So NHS data being scraped. Union membership?? Reddit and other social media info for politics undoubtedly. How – the fuck – is all this relevent to policing and ‘protecting victims’????
Clearly a national security cluster fuck that we’re handing over to a foreign government, namely the US. And to think that people moaned about EU overreach with bendy bananas. This is a dystopian mess by comparison.
Phew! Finally I’m safe from tracking. I’m an atheist and um… , no, forget I said anything.
How about those Football games eh?!
Coppers cba to investigate child abuse as it’s happing in person, or even bother to follow things up. Sure the technology exists, but they’ll probably do fuck all with it
I’m sorry, but if the government implement this, I will never vote for them. Insane police overreach.
Shiiit sex life 0 beliefs 0 🤣 enjoy that information
The police state and the crime of thought creeps upon us
Whilst I am worried about the technology itself, I’m even more worried about the police having access to it. As it stands I don’t think the police have displayed that they can be trusted to not abuse this kind of information, but tbf living in London my view of the police is based on my experiences with and what I read about the Met, which I accept may not be a fair view of police forces in other parts of the country.
Police losing the investigative abilities required for the job, leaving it increasingly to some automated system by some sketchy data broker and leaving the officers to just be there as purely enforcement without thought is how tyranny starts.
Holding a gun to everyone’s head and calling it ‘protection’…
Classic case of just because we can, doesn’t mean that we should – or allow them too
Don’t use social media that requires your real identity.
I for one welcome our social media scouring traffic camera data point gathering overlords
Palantir is essentially supervillian technology. They were heavily projecting when they picked the name. A software package that can give the satellite location, known associates, home address, and political beliefs of any person. Ai algorithms that can recognise their face. Plug it in to a drone with airstrike capabilities, and type in the name of someone you don’t want to live anymore.
Or, get a fleet of drones, type “people who don’t like my government” into the search function. Sit back with your coffee and wait to be declared the un-opposed dictator of the Human Race.
I work for a tech company that regularly buy in products from competitor companies and play around with them. After they’re done the products are left to ‘experiment’ with and the only thing I have hands on experience with was a camera from a well known chinese manufacturer which was pulled apart and had a thermal sensor added as a 2nd ‘head’ so to speak, that went back to an AInvr and the things that could be picked up on by this system were really shocking honestly, and this was a good 6-7 years ago. We actually had to post notices on the door to our floor saying if you entered this floor, this thing was building a profile on you and was generating data on x,y,z and it made a lot of people uncomfortable. Especially women.
Oh it was also pinging off a server somewhere in china once every 3-4 months. Even on an isolated setup we were seeing it still send a single ping somewhere over there somehow.
AI will make sure none of us have secrets.
We have a government who are getting further and further into bed with an actual facist organisation while also using our awful anti-terrorism legislation to make it illegal to express support for an organisation who protest genocide
Starmer and Co are exactly as authoritarian as we all knew they would be. The scariest part is they’re not going to be re-elected which means whatever right wing party follows them will be handed the tools of oppression while also having it have been normalised to arrest people for protesting against facists.
Are yes, the infallible police… whats the saying? If you cant beat them join them…
Majority of the force is corrupt, in my few years in banking it was honestly shocking how many small side business bank accounts we had for policemen, mostly detectives.
Steer clear of them as best you can, if you cant then get into the fold or youre fucked.
Great news. If they assess my sex life then there’s a decent chance they’ll take so much pity on me they might let me off.
Thank God for that. Finally, someone can tell me what’s wrong with me!
A true blessing.
If they want to work out your personality and read people’s minds, they might as well do a deal with Google.