That’s really fucking scary there are people who will assault and kill someone for *brushing past them* on public transport, seeing as that happens all the time given how busy it gets. I get its manslaughter here but it still seems like this prick needs more time inside, someone with a temper like that is a danger to the public
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PreparationNorth2426 on
What a pathetic waste of skin Rakeem Miles is. I trust his family are very proud?
Beneficial-Pitch-430 on
Isn’t there some sort of system for unduly lenient sentences??
Ajax_Trees_Again on
This country despises normal people. Six years for killing somone for no reason is genuinely making my blood boil
FeivelM on
Surely one for for the Lenient Sentence Review Scheme.
Clear-Mix1969 on
Honestly crazy. Killed for brushing past someone. So sad
Opposite-Scheme-8804 on
And they wonder why people are so disillusioned in the UK right now. What is the point in anything now when thugs get cushy sentences for killing you for brushing past them.
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cragglerock93 on
I was there five minutes after it happened (had just come off a train and by that point they’d closed the ststion but our train erroneously stopped at the station to let us off) and I assumed at the time that someone had just had some kind of medical incident. Really horrible to read.
Normal_Sail8131 on
A gentle and valuable life snuffed out by someone leading an absolutely worthless one. Should be doing 20 years.
magicmerce on
We really need a root-and-branch reform of the legal system, as well as an end to automatic release. If you get 8 years, you should serve 8 years.
Milky_Finger on
The sentence is missing a 0 on the end. So he will be out around his 30th birthday and clearly isn’t safe to the public?
messiah-of-cheese on
6 years, just enough for Rakeem to give up on a law abiding life and learn new unlawful trades in prision; which he can practise on release… lovely.
Late-Development-666 on
Pled not guilty, showed no remorse. I thought you got time bumped on for that type of behaviour.
Makes you wonder what the sentence would have been for a guilty plea and fake remorse.
Electronic-Diet-1813 on
Revenue fraud could get you 14 years. So I think its clear what the laws priorities are.
Material_Angle2922 on
Our society is getting scarier and dangerous because of those incompetent judges. The correction facility is absolutely toothless. After getting released, wash rinse and repeat.
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Milky_Finger on
“Winter got off the train and walked up the escalator, brushing past Miles on his way past.
As he headed through the barrier Miles followed behind him yelling abuse.
Miles caught up, grabbing Mr Winter from behind, ripping his top in two as he pulled the shocked commuter to face him.
He then punched Mr Winter once in the head before leaving him collapsed on the stairs.”
In case anyone was unsure, this is a clear intent to murder.
Whitechix on
Men being by far the most victims of homicide yet there is never any government strategy that acknowledges or addresses this, the narrative is so backwards. Poor guy was just going about his day before someone took his life, it’s just so relatable thinking about the many times someone just gets randomly violent against you and how this could have happened to me.
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“I hope today’s sentencing allows his family some small measure of comfort” what an absolutely patronising comment from the investigating officer, who will know full well that this sentence is nowhere near enough to offer any kind of comfort.
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stumperr on
That’s an absolutely crazy sentence, an insult to the victim and his family and friends. There hasn’t been justice here
Intelligent_Goat205 on
The fact that in this country you get more jailtime for mean Internet comments then murder is absurd.
hoarmey on
I think that there have been enough people who die after just 1 punch (I come from a small town and there have been a few in recent years) that it should be accepted by anyone that if you punch someone in the head there is a very good possibility that they will die.
If you stab someone or shoot someone, there is a reasonable expectation that you are about to end a life.
It should be the same for a punch and as such the punishment should be the same as assault with a deadly weapon.
I very much doubt that society would lose out if such people are locked away for life except for the cost of keeping them in prison.
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Terrifying that these people walk among us. Imagine being killed with a singular punch to the face because you brushed past somebody in a crowded underground station? Where you would FULLY EXPECT to brush by people given how busy it is…
Shit like this makes me glad I’m basically a recluse. And 6 years is a joke.
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This cannot be allowed. He’ll likely only serve 3 years as well. What the actual fuck? This is something I’d actually go out and protest over.
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DarthStarkGames on
Another Daily Fail moment, the headline is a blatant lie. From the article:
“But he will serve less than five-and-a-half years in prison before he will be eligible for parole”
So he isn’t serving less than 6 years, he *could* serve less than six if he is granted parole.
Truly terrifying that people like this are just in public every day. A wrong look at the bus stop, a nudge on a tube, not holding a door. A temperament like that is not normal nor safe in public. I’ve been pushed over on escalators pregnant in this city, it’s horrifying the lack of humanity some people have and their value of human life.
InsideTheRyde on
My best friend was killed the same way recently. The killer is now serving a 4 year service.. fuck the UK justice system, it’s weak.
SamMacDatKid on
For fuck sake. You get 10 years for streaming footy matches but 6 for killing someone now?
NeitherEngine8822 on
In the eyes of the state, your life is worth *less than two offensive tweets*. Let that sink in for a moment.
toptiershowlol on
6 years for taking a life, meanwhile, the five individuals who hosted an illegal premier league streaming service got over 10 years, absolute disgrace
ash_ninetyone on
Six years will seem lenient because of the outcome of the actions here. But the judicial system sentences based on guidelines of the crime they’re convicted on.
The guy was found guilty of manslaughter. That’s what he’s sentenced from.
To find him guilty of murder, they’d have had to prove intent to kill, or intent to cause such grevious bodily harm, and that wasn’t going to be possible from this.
If they tried him for murder, without having enough evidence to prove intent, he’d have been acquitted, or a jury would’ve rejected murder but found him guilty of manslaughter instead, if the guy had being able to prove partial defence in court (i.e. loss of control).
Which obviously sucks for the family and the victim, because no sentence can undo a loss of life, or erase that pain.
But it’s how the legal system is built.
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I was in London earlier in the year and the guy in front stopped somewhat abruptly so I stepped on the back of his shoe.
I instinctively tapped him on the shoulder and said “sorry bout that mate”
He turned round with a look of hate and said “don’t you fucking touch me bruv, fuck off”
First time that’s happened and I was a bit shaken tbh
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The title is misleading, he was sentenced to 8 years and is eligible for parole in 5.5 years.
>He was sentenced at the same court today (24 June) to eight years’ imprisonment, with an extended licence period of 13 years. He must serve just under five and a half years’ imprisonment before he will be eligible for parole.
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Engineer, physio, volunteered with several charities. Sounds like an upstanding young man. Had his life taken away by an irredeemable, knuckle dragging brute who’ll be back out on the streets by 35.
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Absolutely fucking unbelievable.
This is a disgrace.
That’s really fucking scary there are people who will assault and kill someone for *brushing past them* on public transport, seeing as that happens all the time given how busy it gets. I get its manslaughter here but it still seems like this prick needs more time inside, someone with a temper like that is a danger to the public
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What a pathetic waste of skin Rakeem Miles is. I trust his family are very proud?
Isn’t there some sort of system for unduly lenient sentences??
This country despises normal people. Six years for killing somone for no reason is genuinely making my blood boil
Surely one for for the Lenient Sentence Review Scheme.
Honestly crazy. Killed for brushing past someone. So sad
And they wonder why people are so disillusioned in the UK right now. What is the point in anything now when thugs get cushy sentences for killing you for brushing past them.
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I was there five minutes after it happened (had just come off a train and by that point they’d closed the ststion but our train erroneously stopped at the station to let us off) and I assumed at the time that someone had just had some kind of medical incident. Really horrible to read.
A gentle and valuable life snuffed out by someone leading an absolutely worthless one. Should be doing 20 years.
We really need a root-and-branch reform of the legal system, as well as an end to automatic release. If you get 8 years, you should serve 8 years.
The sentence is missing a 0 on the end. So he will be out around his 30th birthday and clearly isn’t safe to the public?
6 years, just enough for Rakeem to give up on a law abiding life and learn new unlawful trades in prision; which he can practise on release… lovely.
Pled not guilty, showed no remorse. I thought you got time bumped on for that type of behaviour.
Makes you wonder what the sentence would have been for a guilty plea and fake remorse.
Revenue fraud could get you 14 years. So I think its clear what the laws priorities are.
Our society is getting scarier and dangerous because of those incompetent judges. The correction facility is absolutely toothless. After getting released, wash rinse and repeat.
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“Winter got off the train and walked up the escalator, brushing past Miles on his way past.
As he headed through the barrier Miles followed behind him yelling abuse.
Miles caught up, grabbing Mr Winter from behind, ripping his top in two as he pulled the shocked commuter to face him.
He then punched Mr Winter once in the head before leaving him collapsed on the stairs.”
In case anyone was unsure, this is a clear intent to murder.
Men being by far the most victims of homicide yet there is never any government strategy that acknowledges or addresses this, the narrative is so backwards. Poor guy was just going about his day before someone took his life, it’s just so relatable thinking about the many times someone just gets randomly violent against you and how this could have happened to me.
“I hope today’s sentencing allows his family some small measure of comfort” what an absolutely patronising comment from the investigating officer, who will know full well that this sentence is nowhere near enough to offer any kind of comfort.
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That’s an absolutely crazy sentence, an insult to the victim and his family and friends. There hasn’t been justice here
The fact that in this country you get more jailtime for mean Internet comments then murder is absurd.
I think that there have been enough people who die after just 1 punch (I come from a small town and there have been a few in recent years) that it should be accepted by anyone that if you punch someone in the head there is a very good possibility that they will die.
If you stab someone or shoot someone, there is a reasonable expectation that you are about to end a life.
It should be the same for a punch and as such the punishment should be the same as assault with a deadly weapon.
I very much doubt that society would lose out if such people are locked away for life except for the cost of keeping them in prison.
Terrifying that these people walk among us. Imagine being killed with a singular punch to the face because you brushed past somebody in a crowded underground station? Where you would FULLY EXPECT to brush by people given how busy it is…
Shit like this makes me glad I’m basically a recluse. And 6 years is a joke.
This cannot be allowed. He’ll likely only serve 3 years as well. What the actual fuck? This is something I’d actually go out and protest over.
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Another Daily Fail moment, the headline is a blatant lie. From the article:
“But he will serve less than five-and-a-half years in prison before he will be eligible for parole”
So he isn’t serving less than 6 years, he *could* serve less than six if he is granted parole.
If you want to contest the length, write here: [https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/unduly-lenient-sentences#:~:text=The%20Unduly%20Lenient%20Sentence%20(ULS,the%20sentence%20is%20too%20lenient](https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/unduly-lenient-sentences#:~:text=The%20Unduly%20Lenient%20Sentence%20(ULS,the%20sentence%20is%20too%20lenient).
Truly terrifying that people like this are just in public every day. A wrong look at the bus stop, a nudge on a tube, not holding a door. A temperament like that is not normal nor safe in public. I’ve been pushed over on escalators pregnant in this city, it’s horrifying the lack of humanity some people have and their value of human life.
My best friend was killed the same way recently. The killer is now serving a 4 year service.. fuck the UK justice system, it’s weak.
For fuck sake. You get 10 years for streaming footy matches but 6 for killing someone now?
In the eyes of the state, your life is worth *less than two offensive tweets*. Let that sink in for a moment.
6 years for taking a life, meanwhile, the five individuals who hosted an illegal premier league streaming service got over 10 years, absolute disgrace
Six years will seem lenient because of the outcome of the actions here. But the judicial system sentences based on guidelines of the crime they’re convicted on.
The guy was found guilty of manslaughter. That’s what he’s sentenced from.
To find him guilty of murder, they’d have had to prove intent to kill, or intent to cause such grevious bodily harm, and that wasn’t going to be possible from this.
If they tried him for murder, without having enough evidence to prove intent, he’d have been acquitted, or a jury would’ve rejected murder but found him guilty of manslaughter instead, if the guy had being able to prove partial defence in court (i.e. loss of control).
Which obviously sucks for the family and the victim, because no sentence can undo a loss of life, or erase that pain.
But it’s how the legal system is built.
I was in London earlier in the year and the guy in front stopped somewhat abruptly so I stepped on the back of his shoe.
I instinctively tapped him on the shoulder and said “sorry bout that mate”
He turned round with a look of hate and said “don’t you fucking touch me bruv, fuck off”
First time that’s happened and I was a bit shaken tbh
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The title is misleading, he was sentenced to 8 years and is eligible for parole in 5.5 years.
>He was sentenced at the same court today (24 June) to eight years’ imprisonment, with an extended licence period of 13 years. He must serve just under five and a half years’ imprisonment before he will be eligible for parole.
Engineer, physio, volunteered with several charities. Sounds like an upstanding young man. Had his life taken away by an irredeemable, knuckle dragging brute who’ll be back out on the streets by 35.
Imagine how tired we are.