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    Boy, 16, on stolen bike died trying to get away from burglary victim chasing him


    Boy, 16, on stolen bike died trying to get away from burglary victim chasing him

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/boy-16-stolen-bike-died-31963725?int_source=breaking-news

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    2. stranglekelp on

      I remember the absolute chaos in Stockport when this kid’s funeral was ongoing. You would think the biggest saint in the world has died.

      Same thing with the recent Salford issues. Low life criminals die and are then treated like absolute angels. It’s insanity

    3. Glittering_Copy8907 on

      > He still owed a duty to all the other road users around him, including those men on his bike.

      And if that isn’t a fundamental flaw in our justice system then I don’t know what is.

      Literally “owed a duty of care” to those comitting a criminal act against him. This isn’t over the top self defence, it’s not him assauting them or hurting them, or torturing them.

      No, it’s the legal system telling victims that they *owe* a *duty of care* to those who wrong them. That they mustn’t act in a way which may cause them harm. That despite the crash being entirely of their own doing, entirely of their own choice, entirely through their own actions that he is responsible.

      Joke of a system. He’ll get done, there’s plenty of precedent here. He’s toast unless he’s jury nullified.

    4. ThatchersDirtyTaint on

      Oh no, what a shame. How sad.

      Anyway, what’s everyone having for dinner tonight ?

    6. AdolsLostSword on

      >A teenager died after riding on a stolen motorbike which crashed as its driver tried in ‘desperation’ to get away from the victim of a burglary who was pursuing them, a jury has heard.

      It takes the article multiple paragraphs to establish that the deceased was one of the burglars who stole the bike, which is pertinent information from a common sense standpoint.

    7. XRevolution-71 on

      16 y, burglar, riding a stolen motorbike, putting other lives in risk. Why is so difficult to point the obvious nowadays?

    9. AnOtherGuy1234567 on

      If this was in parts of the US. They’d be charging the other two burglars for manslaughter. As the death occurred during the commissioning of a crime, so the survivors of the crime get the punishment. If you lead the police on a high speed chase and the police hit and kill a pedestrian, guess who goes to prison for decades?

    10. JarJarBingChilling on

      They’re trying to make the burglary victim responsible for this death for driving 16 miles over the speed limit (which to be absolutely clear is wrong and shouldn’t be hand waived away, but to say *this* is what led to the thief’s death is beyond absurd) yet when a cretin with no insurance mounted the pavement & ran me over going 40 mph over the limit they didn’t even take points off his license and instead gave him a one day safe driving course claiming they can only give him one or the other, not both. What a joke.

    11. PomPomBumblebee on

      I don’t want to say good but… okay?

      He was a criminal who could have killed someone else when he chose to break the law and endanger others.

      He wouldn’t have had more than a slap on the wrist until he hurt or killed someone, and even then he wouldn’t have gotten more than a telling off and a chance to recharge his batteries to do it again.

      The UK is terrible for prosecuting dangerous drivers and thieves. It’s only when it happens to rich people or someone gets killed anything is done but even those who kill on the road get away with only a few years.

    12. Psychonurz on

      Absolutely no loss whatsoever. I hope the victim doesn’t get convicted, reminds me of that 24 hours in police custody episode.

    13. pelicanradishmuncher on

      Well I’m sure the parents are well adjusted enough to recognise this is almost exclusively their fault.

    15. Only_Tip9560 on

      Because if the guy hadn’t been chasing them, those three absolutely would have ridden those bikes according to the rules of the road…

    16. captainfishpie on

      Ugh,
      Stolen mopeds and 125s are rife in Stockport and tameside at the moment.
      They are going round in 3s.
      The other day me and my husband were in the car and 3 lads were on 2 (stolen) bikes and one was holding a petrol can…..

      Police are not doing much

    17. nolinearbanana on

      If ever you needed further proof that the judicial system is heavily stacked against the average person.

    18. ljwdt90 on

      If you play with feathers expect to get your arse tickled.

      Or another good one I heard recently:

      The dildo of consequence seldom comes lubed.

    19. Mammoth_Park7184 on

      I really hope the victim gets off and tge burglar gets done for dangerous driving. Ridiculous he’s been charged for trying to prevent a crime. 

    20. NGeoTeacher on

      I suppose I should be sympathetic, but as the victim of three stolen bikes (two motor, one push), it’s difficult. Next time I have a bike stolen (practically inevitable), with the full knowledge that the police will do fuck all about it, I might take a leaf out of this guy’s book and go on the chase.

    21. Macho-Fantastico on

      So he was killed after stealing someone else’s property. No sympathy what so ever. Hope the guy got his bikes back.

    22. knit_on_my_face on

      Why do so many aspiring footballers with cheeky smiles end up dying like this

      Strange phenomenon

    23. Sauronshit on

      And you just know that if the motorbike owner let them escape, he would have never seen them again, as the police simply doesn’t exist in this country

    24. cookiesnooper on

      “A 16-year-old feral human died after committing a crime. Victim is ok 👍 ” FTFY

    25. ohnoohno69 on

      Yeah, you should just let anyone rob you. The police will help…..but they don’t. That’s the problem. Communities are largely self governing. If I was on a jury in this case, I’d not find the GTi drivers actions unreasonable or disproportionate. So I’d find him not guilty. The lad on the stolen bike though, that’s a different matter. If he was reasonable he would have pulled over and abandoned the bike. Send him down.

    26. Karl_Cross on

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I find it very difficult to have sympathy for this thug.

    27. Jonnysupafly on

      Disgusting they arrested the bloke trying to get his hard earned property back!

      Heart warming to read about the dead scrote though! I wouldn’t have called the thieving little scumbag an ambulance either!

    28. ShowPlus7927 on

      From my impression of the British legal system, the person chasing will now be persecuted for causing ‘innocent death’

    30. trying_again_7 on

      unfortunate, but I feel life’s trajectory would have been much different had they not been an accomplice to stealing someone else’s property.

    31. TheSonicKind on

      the pressure was caused by the fact they stole the bike, no doubt. as others have said, do him for dangerous driving if/when you can if you have him dead to rights.

      but he did not cause that boy’s death. that boy’s actions caused his own death.

      how many people do you know have had bikes/cars stolen and the police simply do not care? been mugged, burgled, etc? nobody i know has any semblance of reliance on the police to do what needs done, they’re too thinly stretched and kept protecting higher society at our expense.

      had he just rolled over, the police *maybe* would have given him a crime reference number within the week, he’d have to claim on insurance, his premiums would be fucked and his bike gone without a trace. he got his bike back.

      now, my issue is how he reacted to the incident where the boy came off the bike. it seems he simply picked the bike up and went home, probably got a bollocking from someone who heard the full story which prompted him to phone the police before they came knocking. if he’d have stuck around and waited for the police, because they *definitely* would have been on their way at that point, we probably wouldn’t even be having this conversation. he could have spoken to a person and explained the situation and then the policing can begin.

      i get it, but what a messy fucking situation

    32. InSilenceLikeLasagna on

      Tragic all around. Kids do stupid shit, kid gets a disproportionate consequence to his stupid action and few empathise.

      Edit: Nevermind, this kid killed someone prior to this with a similar crime. No longer seems disproportionate

    35. teeFgiB on

      The victim shouldn’t be on trial, he should be labelled as a hero for trying to defend his property

    36. FooDogg86 on

      Amazes me how cause and effect seems to have evaporated over the years.

      The kid didn’t just wake up on a stolen motorbike getting chased by a dude frothing at the mouth.

      He was the architect of his own demise…

    38. FeHive on

      What i don’t understand is how this is going to stick. According to the article the bike clipped a car causing the 2 burglars to fall off, one tried to make off on foot while the dead idiot was killed instantly. The victim didn’t hit the bike, only gave chase and sped in a 20 zone.

      Surely at worst it should be dangerous driving. At best a speeding ticket with the person in control of the bike getting nailed for causing death by dangerous driving.

      Either way, Stockports sheds are a little safer.

    39. CreepyTool on

      Given up on this country. Everything about it conditions the population to be pathetic, weak and to allow others to walk all over them.

    40. Effective_Echidna438 on

      Sorry but I have No sympathy, you commit crimes and bad shit can happen

    41. Silver-Appointment77 on

      So a 36 yeasr old man, a 21 year old man and a 16 year old boy stole bikes, which the 16 year old couldnt drive, So he got on the back of the 36 year old bike, but he home owner whos 3 bikes was stolen is in thw wrong???

      How the fuck is the person whos trying to get his bikes back in the wrong. Hes chasing 3 theives. Thats all they were, and the 36 year old should be locked up for life as I bet it was all his planning and carrying the 16 year old.

      Lets hold the 2 fully grown men who are theives accountable.

    42. Unlucky-Jello-5660 on

      Sums up this country that they are prosecuting the victim of a crime for trying to retrieve his property while trying to paint a criminal as a cheeky chappie

    43. Flat_Fault_7802 on

      The guy who’s bikes were stolen is being charged with death by dangerous driving because he went after the cunts who stole his bikes in his car. They are saying that if he hadn’t given chase they wouldn’t have crashed. If they hadn’t stolen his fucking motorbikes he wouldn’t have had to chase them. You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    44. matti1311 on

      Stolen bike + chase?

      Absolutely no sympathy acted like a twat and got a fitting outcome.

    45. 3_34544449E14 on

      The only tragedy here is that his victim is in court. Completely abhorrent. I don’t always wish for jury duty but for this…

    46. apainintheokole on

      I don’t blame the guy for chasing them down. The only thing he did wrong was taking the motorcycle back after they crashed and not calling for help then. But i really don’t blame him.

      It is the same when car thieves die in the cars they stole. If they hadn’t been out stealing cars – they wouldn’t be dead. Same for this kid – if he hadn’t been thieving – he would be alive today.