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  1. pppppppppppppppppd on

    A lukewarm welcome to our next Prime Minister, Nigel Farage.

    *sigh*

  2. > Tbf, nothing he’s [Jeremy Corbyn] said has indicated he would lead this prospective new party, and there’s no reason to also believe that current Labour MPs [Zarah Sultana] couldn’t / wouldn’t leave to become a part of it

    A comment I left earlier today. Does this make me a prophet?

  3. AuroraHalsey on

    Farage and Badenoch are throwing a party right now.

    I’m glad for this though.

    If we can get four or five sizeable parties in parliament that can’t hold a majority on their own, we could finally get voting reform.

  4. Corbyn’s last leadership saw mass defections and a wipeout in 2019, this reunion won’t magically reverse that.

    They’ll siphon off a few hard-left activists, but a new party starts with zero infrastructure, no media reach and minimal fundraising.

    They’re setting themselves up as permanent protest vote material, no policymaking clout, no cabinet seats, just another fringe group guaranteed to help the Tories or Reform UK win under FPTP.

  5. Craft_on_draft on

    This could be great for labour, all the loons defect to Corbyn’s party and Starmer could be alright. Abbott next please

  6. LowerDinner8240 on

    This confirms what a lot of people already thought. She was never really interested in representing her constituents, it was always about activism, not local issues.

    She’s spent more time talking about Gaza and Britain’s past than she has about the NHS, housing, or jobs in Coventry. MPs are supposed to serve their communities, not use Parliament as a platform for international protest.

    If someone sees the country as fundamentally broken, how can they be trusted to lead it? We need politicians who want to fix Britain, not just condemn it.

  7. Seoirse101349 on

    Unless there are more defections, isn’t this just another Change UK?

  8. If we didnt have FPTP this would be good news. Maybe this will spur the greens into getting their shit together too, someone stealing their thunder being a protest party might drive them to actually having a cohesive vision

  9. Chlorophilia on

    You can always rely on the left to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Losing is better than compromise, apparently. 

  10. PuzzleheadedBear5624 on

    On the bright side. We now have a left wing party. On the significantly darker side I think this all but guarantees a reform victory 

  11. Christian-Metal on

    Other than Student and harder left voters and activists, most people outside of that bubble do not take Sultana as a serious MP. She has all the gravitas of an A Level student debater. This is not a blow to Starmer in any way. Whatever you think for him, he has succeeded in removing the Corbyn left from the party. The only thing that is now a threat to Labour is him and his government’s inability to actually govern.

  12. LauraPhilps7654 on

    Whatever one’s political opinion on this, “Billionaires already have three parties fighting for them. It’s time the rest of us had one” stands out as a strikingly pithy penultimate sentence.

  13. johnomuller on

    “If you are not as *left wing* as the *left wing* person you are talking to, you are the enemy” – Daniel Sloss

  14. To anyone that has concerns about “splitting the left” (no, I’m not including Labour in that), parties can and have been willing to stand down in seats where aligned parties are more likely to win in the past. This new party, the Greens, and even the Lib Dem’s could quite easily enter into an agreement like this, perhaps similar to France’s New Popular Front

  15. savingthrone on

    Maybe Starmer and co. will use this opportunity to stop browbeating and start thinking about the structural integrity of their coalition.

    All the cries of “letting Reform win” should probably realise that it takes two to tango…

  16. Manfred-Disco on

    Good. Might actually see proper left and right politics instead of the pretenders we are currently served with.

  17. Well I do love the general attitudes around here.

    When nothing changes “This, that and the other is wrong, we need to do something. So on and so forth.”

    When someone makes a change “No, not like that!”

    Personally I wish them the best of luck going forwards. Yes it will be difficult. Yes they may very well fail to achieve anything at all. At least they’re trying *something*.

  18. On the bright side – the less people in labour party are like her, the more I trust Labour. 

  19. throwaway265378 on

    I’m sure plenty of people will be blaming them for a Reform victory. Similar to Democrats in the US blaming left wing voters for Kamala losing the election. But the Labour right have only themselves to blame for further splitting the “left”.

  20. More center left votes going to a minority

    Good job guys at least the barbaric hamas and Hezbollah appreciate the effort so they can continue suppressing gays

  21. neptune_2k06 on

    They could call it United Britain, inspired by Putin’s United Russia.

    Both of these MPs have blamed NATO for his aggressive behaviour towards other countries.

  22. spacebatangeldragon8 on

    People crowing about how unlikely their chances are in 2029 are totally missing the bigger picture here, in the historical turning point we’re currently enduring. Winning a single election isn’t the point – *surviving* as an independent political force is.

    The Labour Party, as currently constituted, is a rotting corpse. The more sound-headed people on its left flank who leave it for good before the worms finally finish gnawing their way through, the better.

  23. dreamvilian27 on

    It was only a matter of time. Starmer can’t be shocked with the strategy of isolating one wing of his party and them deciding to splinter off

  24. This thread is unsurprisingly wild already. Apparently this new party is both entirely irrelevant student politics, but also enough to put Nigel Farage into power. Make it make sense?

    Personally I think it will be nice to finally have a party which actually represents the interests of the British public, and doesn’t just kowtow to the highest bidder. Constantly voting for *the lesser evil* has got us into this mess, how about we vote for a party who will actually represent our interests instead?

  25. Rayvinblade on

    This party will never win power, but it might develop just enough clout to force Labour to stop throwing voters away in a doomed pursuit for Reformers, and move back toward the left.

  26. LingonberryNo3548 on

    Difficult day to be an islamic extremist and have to decide whether to stick to the greens or move over to this new party

  27. concretepigeon on

    It’s a shame there’s not voice really for economically left types who aren’t obsessed with Gaza and don’t want mass migration.

    I have a level of respect for Sultana but she seems to be any to put herself in a position where she’s effectively a tool for the far right.

  28. What an odd thread. Already filled with kneejerk comments from centrists stamping their feet either insisting that this new party is irrelevant, or that it will usher in a Reform government.

    Fact is there’s something incredibly dangerous about an allegedly ‘democratic’ system which refuses to represent the views of interests of millions of people. We have three major parties who represent the same tiny group: the rich. It’ll be nice to have a party which actually represents the average person in this country. And if a party representing average people is allegedly a challenge to Labour, than it only highlights how far from that path Labour have lurched under Starmer.

  29. Why are people talking about ‘splitting the left vote’? There aren’t currently any major left wing parties to vote for. How can you split something that doesn’t exist?

  30. Weird-Statistician on

    I really do think all these defections, no matter which party should trigger a by election. You stand on a manefesto for party A and then suddenly you’re representing a completely different lot.

  31. In 2020 Zarah Sultana voted for a bill that MPs who voluntarily change their political party affiliation are subject to a recall petition, which, if signed by 10% of eligible electors, would lead to their seats being declared vacant.

  32. GiftedGeordie on

    Starmer has already showed that he has nothing but contempt for the left wing of the Labour Party and is trying to buddy up to the far right, even though you can’t out-Reform Reform, so why in the fuck should people like Sultana waste their time in staying?

    I’m not going to blame people like Sultana for leaving, I hope that more left wing Labour supporters do leave and then the left wing actually have a fucking party that can represent them instead of a British political system dominated by different types of right wing.