They claim its AI while they outsource to other countries. You would think there would be laws against banking information being shared outside ones country. Especially areas with shady scam centers like India.
DontEatCrayonss on
Companies are using AI as a scapegoat for hiring overseas workers.
Prior_Coyote_4376 on
We can just skip to the end of this story. Tech workers need to unionize.
We are apparently not as indispensable as the era of free money had led us to believe. Those times are over.
– Cap the percent of jobs that can be offshored
– Keep a certain percent of entry-level jobs or apprenticeships
– Enforce sane data and privacy regulations so we don’t all end up working on a future Palantir acquisition target
– Publish guidelines for regulators to use since they’re clearly never going to be tech literate enough to do it themselves
– Support open-source developers who work thanklessly on critical projects everyone depends on
– Provide legal and emotional support networks in case of harassment or misconduct from the right-wing tech bros who seem emboldened
– Drive the culture of tech outside of corporate & VC control
We’re the segment of American workers best positioned to do this. If we push for unionization, we empower other workers too.
typeryu on
I’ve seen colleagues who were “laid off” because of AI before, none of their jobs went to AI. It came to the rest of us. AI helps, but you will need people to use it. Even agents need people to give it commands and some of the axed people left without handovers (as usually is the case) so it is just a general loss in productivity which is okay to the leadership because in reality, they are just downsizing the product and AI is the ultimate scapegoat to cover management failures.
mvw2 on
AI is just the excuse to investors. It just buys time.
mcs5280 on
And you vil be happy
TheNozzler on
There are two ways AI makes a company money
1. Reduce cost
2. Create new revenue
Which one do you think it’s better at?
123usernames on
Yet the cost of these services/subscriptions will continue to increase
WettestNoodle on
Really? They’re practically screaming it from the rooftops… If anything the role is smaller than they let on lol
prescod on
But I was told on Reddit that AI is the excuse and not the real reason for the layoffs.
Howdyini on
I don’t see how that’s possible since they all say it’s due to AI even when there are other clear factors at play.
Gold_Satisfaction201 on
It could also be a lot less.
crankyexpress on
Yuge threat to white collar jobs..
Mysterious_Luck_1365 on
I knew this moment would come during my working career, although I didn’t expect AI to be the culprit.
Growing up it was the “go to college” so you don’t become one of the “they took our jobs” blue collar people. So I did that. As an adult, I watched my mom’s white collar job get outsourced, multiple times actually. The same job. They sent it out and when it blew up, brought it back and asked her and her colleagues to fix it. I remember being furious with her for not telling her company to eff off. This was around 2005 the first time and then it just became a pattern.
Anyway, my entire professional career, starting in 2008 (lucky me) has been heading towards this. CAE was the part of engineering that interested me the most, but at some point a decade ago I saw the writing on the wall and pivoted. The software got much better, the internet got much faster and most importantly, the access to the software became much easier. The world is full of engineers and we’re (USA) the most expensive. This was all before AI even entered the conversation. I just can’t see the math working out in our favor.
There is some poetic justice here I guess, as us white collar people didn’t treat the factory workers that lost their jobs so well. At least they had a way out though. It’s an incredibly difficult thing to change careers late in life, but I suppose they could go back to college etc.
What options do we have? I’m a mechanical engineer, although my job now is mostly program management and the base engineering is done elsewhere (Mexico, China, India etc) What should I go back to college and get a degree in? I don’t think I can swing medical school, but nursing is an option. Software, computer engineering I’ve always liked, but it seems brutal out there for that profession. What else? I’m getting pretty close to being unemployable.
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No I think they’ve made it pretty clear
They claim its AI while they outsource to other countries. You would think there would be laws against banking information being shared outside ones country. Especially areas with shady scam centers like India.
Companies are using AI as a scapegoat for hiring overseas workers.
We can just skip to the end of this story. Tech workers need to unionize.
We are apparently not as indispensable as the era of free money had led us to believe. Those times are over.
– Cap the percent of jobs that can be offshored
– Keep a certain percent of entry-level jobs or apprenticeships
– Enforce sane data and privacy regulations so we don’t all end up working on a future Palantir acquisition target
– Publish guidelines for regulators to use since they’re clearly never going to be tech literate enough to do it themselves
– Support open-source developers who work thanklessly on critical projects everyone depends on
– Provide legal and emotional support networks in case of harassment or misconduct from the right-wing tech bros who seem emboldened
– Drive the culture of tech outside of corporate & VC control
We’re the segment of American workers best positioned to do this. If we push for unionization, we empower other workers too.
I’ve seen colleagues who were “laid off” because of AI before, none of their jobs went to AI. It came to the rest of us. AI helps, but you will need people to use it. Even agents need people to give it commands and some of the axed people left without handovers (as usually is the case) so it is just a general loss in productivity which is okay to the leadership because in reality, they are just downsizing the product and AI is the ultimate scapegoat to cover management failures.
AI is just the excuse to investors. It just buys time.
And you vil be happy
There are two ways AI makes a company money
1. Reduce cost
2. Create new revenue
Which one do you think it’s better at?
Yet the cost of these services/subscriptions will continue to increase
Really? They’re practically screaming it from the rooftops… If anything the role is smaller than they let on lol
But I was told on Reddit that AI is the excuse and not the real reason for the layoffs.
I don’t see how that’s possible since they all say it’s due to AI even when there are other clear factors at play.
It could also be a lot less.
Yuge threat to white collar jobs..
I knew this moment would come during my working career, although I didn’t expect AI to be the culprit.
Growing up it was the “go to college” so you don’t become one of the “they took our jobs” blue collar people. So I did that. As an adult, I watched my mom’s white collar job get outsourced, multiple times actually. The same job. They sent it out and when it blew up, brought it back and asked her and her colleagues to fix it. I remember being furious with her for not telling her company to eff off. This was around 2005 the first time and then it just became a pattern.
Anyway, my entire professional career, starting in 2008 (lucky me) has been heading towards this. CAE was the part of engineering that interested me the most, but at some point a decade ago I saw the writing on the wall and pivoted. The software got much better, the internet got much faster and most importantly, the access to the software became much easier. The world is full of engineers and we’re (USA) the most expensive. This was all before AI even entered the conversation. I just can’t see the math working out in our favor.
There is some poetic justice here I guess, as us white collar people didn’t treat the factory workers that lost their jobs so well. At least they had a way out though. It’s an incredibly difficult thing to change careers late in life, but I suppose they could go back to college etc.
What options do we have? I’m a mechanical engineer, although my job now is mostly program management and the base engineering is done elsewhere (Mexico, China, India etc) What should I go back to college and get a degree in? I don’t think I can swing medical school, but nursing is an option. Software, computer engineering I’ve always liked, but it seems brutal out there for that profession. What else? I’m getting pretty close to being unemployable.