they are destroying the US’s ability to go on future missions.
FartomicMeltdown on
Republicans/conservatives/religious nuts hate science and progress. They’re the scourge of the earth.
ImAnActualScientist on
Something to remember is that once we lose the ability to successfully launch spacecraft we cannot just turn a knob and get it back.
As *one* example, highly specialized parts are often necessary for spacecraft. Usually you can build a few of those parts for a given mission. It is (was) within people’s actual jobs to know how to build those specialized parts, including what materials suppliers provides a high-enough quality of material (can actually be a huge issue), how to test the raw material and manufactured parts, how to build the parts to maintain structural integrity, what types of treatments those parts need before they are integrated into a craft, what mistakes have been made before with similar parts, and even how the parts can be store the parts before integration and launch.
It’s highly specialized work that has to be supported. If we lose the personal and ability now, it will not be coming back.
Thor_2099 on
They’re destroying humanity period. This goes behind just Nasa/space and into all of science. All of free critical thinking. As crazy as it sounds, the concept of truth is being destroyed.
Johansen905 on
It’s not like there is a future left, the end is nigh!
carbide632 on
Others will pick up America’s slack. We are not the leaders anymore.
dysrptv on
It doesn’t help that public sentiment is that space exploration is a waste of time and money and only.
decrementsf on
The engineers left NASA long ago for the private sector. NASA is a jobs program. Another form of welfare. It is the nature of administrative bloat to eventually squeeze everyone productive out. There is a vitality at the start of a new group and over time it ossifies. Eventually cut the Gordian Knot and start fresh with a new mission with a small group of highly competent people and a small budget and build the new successor heir to the bloated gassy body of the former institution putrifying on the beach. NASA hasn’t produced since the early 1990s. Got lapped by smaller groups. It’s done.
bowleggedgrump on
Religion is always the best… for doing the worst
ICLazeru on
“We should focus on our problems here on Earth!”
“Okay, let’s stop polluting it.”
“…No.”
Petersm66 on
Somehow I doubt this will destroy mankind’s ability to go on future missions. In reality, NASA will need to prioritize funding for their most important missions…and defund those deemed less important. Mankind does this around the world on a daily basis…NASA seems to be struggling with the concept.
hotdogtuesday1999 on
The destruction of these resources so as to necessitate the redirection of services to privatization is inexcusably corrupt. You cripple a nation and its brightest resources so that a private company is all that is left to provide this resource of progress and intellectual momentum, and you ensure the failure of a nation by the denial of all that is learned behind the paywalls they will inevitably build.
Santilmo on
We’re really gonna be paying more for this down the line, aren’t we?
pxr555 on
While I hate what they’re doing to NASA mankind isn’t just the US. Just saying. Trump won’t destroy mankind, he’ll just destroy the US. It had a good run, granted.
K0paz on
accurate. they deleted NTPs twice now. Only morons would throw out propulsion system that has 2x ISP vs. combustion rocket engines.
Then again this is mostly due to clueless public thinking science provides “no benefit” to them.
which is laughably ignorant of them.
JCPLee on
China and Europe will take the lead. Science doesn’t start and end with America.
RussianBot4Fun on
Only commies can go to space! Keep funding NASA!
Imsoamerican on
No, it’s limiting NASA. There are plenty of other options.
clonedhuman on
Musk and Bezos want to privatize space missions.
That’s the only reason this is happening. NASA used to be a major point of pride for the United States.
Decronym on
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|CST|(Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules|
| |Central Standard Time (UTC-6)|
|[Isp](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4sgqm9 “Last usage”)|Specific impulse (as explained by [Scott Manley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnisTeYLLgs) on YouTube)|
| |Internet Service Provider|
|[NTP](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4slfm9 “Last usage”)|Nuclear Thermal Propulsion|
| |Network Time Protocol|
| |Notice to Proceed|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4sng1z “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
One guy starts it, then 4 years later the other guy slashes it, just cause it had the last guy’s name on it, then starts a new one with a different mission and his name on it.
Rise and repeat
atlasraven on
Just the USA’s ability to go to space. China will capitalize on this for their lunar base. Advancements in science and engineering will be theirs.
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they are destroying the US’s ability to go on future missions.
Republicans/conservatives/religious nuts hate science and progress. They’re the scourge of the earth.
Something to remember is that once we lose the ability to successfully launch spacecraft we cannot just turn a knob and get it back.
As *one* example, highly specialized parts are often necessary for spacecraft. Usually you can build a few of those parts for a given mission. It is (was) within people’s actual jobs to know how to build those specialized parts, including what materials suppliers provides a high-enough quality of material (can actually be a huge issue), how to test the raw material and manufactured parts, how to build the parts to maintain structural integrity, what types of treatments those parts need before they are integrated into a craft, what mistakes have been made before with similar parts, and even how the parts can be store the parts before integration and launch.
It’s highly specialized work that has to be supported. If we lose the personal and ability now, it will not be coming back.
They’re destroying humanity period. This goes behind just Nasa/space and into all of science. All of free critical thinking. As crazy as it sounds, the concept of truth is being destroyed.
It’s not like there is a future left, the end is nigh!
Others will pick up America’s slack. We are not the leaders anymore.
It doesn’t help that public sentiment is that space exploration is a waste of time and money and only.
The engineers left NASA long ago for the private sector. NASA is a jobs program. Another form of welfare. It is the nature of administrative bloat to eventually squeeze everyone productive out. There is a vitality at the start of a new group and over time it ossifies. Eventually cut the Gordian Knot and start fresh with a new mission with a small group of highly competent people and a small budget and build the new successor heir to the bloated gassy body of the former institution putrifying on the beach. NASA hasn’t produced since the early 1990s. Got lapped by smaller groups. It’s done.
Religion is always the best… for doing the worst
“We should focus on our problems here on Earth!”
“Okay, let’s stop polluting it.”
“…No.”
Somehow I doubt this will destroy mankind’s ability to go on future missions. In reality, NASA will need to prioritize funding for their most important missions…and defund those deemed less important. Mankind does this around the world on a daily basis…NASA seems to be struggling with the concept.
The destruction of these resources so as to necessitate the redirection of services to privatization is inexcusably corrupt. You cripple a nation and its brightest resources so that a private company is all that is left to provide this resource of progress and intellectual momentum, and you ensure the failure of a nation by the denial of all that is learned behind the paywalls they will inevitably build.
We’re really gonna be paying more for this down the line, aren’t we?
While I hate what they’re doing to NASA mankind isn’t just the US. Just saying. Trump won’t destroy mankind, he’ll just destroy the US. It had a good run, granted.
accurate. they deleted NTPs twice now. Only morons would throw out propulsion system that has 2x ISP vs. combustion rocket engines.
Then again this is mostly due to clueless public thinking science provides “no benefit” to them.
which is laughably ignorant of them.
China and Europe will take the lead. Science doesn’t start and end with America.
Only commies can go to space! Keep funding NASA!
No, it’s limiting NASA. There are plenty of other options.
Musk and Bezos want to privatize space missions.
That’s the only reason this is happening. NASA used to be a major point of pride for the United States.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|CST|(Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules|
| |Central Standard Time (UTC-6)|
|[Isp](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4sgqm9 “Last usage”)|Specific impulse (as explained by [Scott Manley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnisTeYLLgs) on YouTube)|
| |Internet Service Provider|
|[NTP](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4slfm9 “Last usage”)|Nuclear Thermal Propulsion|
| |Network Time Protocol|
| |Notice to Proceed|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4sng1z “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starliner](/r/Space/comments/1m7jv2g/stub/n4sng1z “Last usage”)|Boeing commercial crew capsule [CST-100](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CST-100_Starliner)|
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This is why we can’t have nice space things.
One guy starts it, then 4 years later the other guy slashes it, just cause it had the last guy’s name on it, then starts a new one with a different mission and his name on it.
Rise and repeat
Just the USA’s ability to go to space. China will capitalize on this for their lunar base. Advancements in science and engineering will be theirs.