>Starmer said this would happen “unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, reaches a ceasefire, makes clear there will be no annexation in the West Bank, and commits to a long-term peace process that delivers a Two State Solution”.
This Israeli cabinet is not going to meet _any_ of the requests here, let alone all of them. If Palestine isn’t recognised in September I want to see half of Starmer’s cabinet resigning.
boldstrategy on
Lets see if he follows through, seems a fair statement.
Lunarfrog2 on
About time some serious pressure is put on Isreal, Gaza is on the brink of total famine
Minimum-Geologist-58 on
A productive attitude. The British government has always held that a Palestinian state should be established as part of a negotiation to a two state solution, otherwise it’s just a bit pointless and fuzzy, like what is the “Palestinian state”, how can it survive as a state without Israeli consent? If negotiation towards a two state solution has clearly been abandoned by Israel then a change in tack seems reasonable to me.
ace5762 on
“If this post gets one like, Israel will have met our conditions”
*Keir Starmer liked this*
“Say no more”
shadereckless on
Why not just do it anyway, frankly why not just do it now?
Blank3k on
Recognising a states existence is a bargaining tool?
What the hell…
Is it just me who finds that rather, uh, distasteful.
CaptMelonfish on
Will there be any Palestinians left by then? It’s utterly horrific over there right now
ItsWormAllTheWayDown on
Am I missing something but does the “threat” of recognising Palestine as a state not seem at odds with the demand of committing to a two state solution?
Like if Israel changed their goals to that would we then not recognise one of the two states we were just asking for?
macarouns on
The best time to have done this was months ago, but the second best time is today. This is a very welcome move and a smart strategy.
redditpappy on
Imagine giving someone 1 to 2 months to end a genocide. What a joke.
This guy should be ashamed to call himself a human rights lawyer.
littlebiped on
Bizarre move to make the recognition conditional on the besieging party but I guess it’s something?
Surely the sensible thing would be to bring it up only if you intend to do it, and based on principle, and not “we’ll see how the vibes are in September.”
Because quite frankly come September and they go “sorry Israel did the minimum we asked so the status quo is grand and you don’t deserve state recondition” is NOT going to play well in September, nor will it age well in October onwards.
Deadliftdeadlife on
ELI5 what recognising the state means? Isn’t it currently ran by Hamas?
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>Starmer said this would happen “unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, reaches a ceasefire, makes clear there will be no annexation in the West Bank, and commits to a long-term peace process that delivers a Two State Solution”.
This Israeli cabinet is not going to meet _any_ of the requests here, let alone all of them. If Palestine isn’t recognised in September I want to see half of Starmer’s cabinet resigning.
Lets see if he follows through, seems a fair statement.
About time some serious pressure is put on Isreal, Gaza is on the brink of total famine
A productive attitude. The British government has always held that a Palestinian state should be established as part of a negotiation to a two state solution, otherwise it’s just a bit pointless and fuzzy, like what is the “Palestinian state”, how can it survive as a state without Israeli consent? If negotiation towards a two state solution has clearly been abandoned by Israel then a change in tack seems reasonable to me.
“If this post gets one like, Israel will have met our conditions”
*Keir Starmer liked this*
“Say no more”
Why not just do it anyway, frankly why not just do it now?
Recognising a states existence is a bargaining tool?
What the hell…
Is it just me who finds that rather, uh, distasteful.
Will there be any Palestinians left by then? It’s utterly horrific over there right now
Am I missing something but does the “threat” of recognising Palestine as a state not seem at odds with the demand of committing to a two state solution?
Like if Israel changed their goals to that would we then not recognise one of the two states we were just asking for?
The best time to have done this was months ago, but the second best time is today. This is a very welcome move and a smart strategy.
Imagine giving someone 1 to 2 months to end a genocide. What a joke.
This guy should be ashamed to call himself a human rights lawyer.
Bizarre move to make the recognition conditional on the besieging party but I guess it’s something?
Surely the sensible thing would be to bring it up only if you intend to do it, and based on principle, and not “we’ll see how the vibes are in September.”
Because quite frankly come September and they go “sorry Israel did the minimum we asked so the status quo is grand and you don’t deserve state recondition” is NOT going to play well in September, nor will it age well in October onwards.
ELI5 what recognising the state means? Isn’t it currently ran by Hamas?