‘It’s clear travellers aren’t welcome here – but we won’t go quietly’
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/its-clear-travellers-arent-welcome-32228081
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‘It’s clear travellers aren’t welcome here – but we won’t go quietly’
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/its-clear-travellers-arent-welcome-32228081
Posted by pppppppppppppppppd
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Show me a traveller group that hasn’t trashed where ever they squat, haven’t caused mischief or caused social disorder and I’ll happily show you a community happy to receive them.
Yeah… they never do go quietly, or cleanly, or with civility.
It’s always the 99% that ruins it for the rest of them .
I wonder has it ever occurred to those that have much to say about travellers that they do what they do because of the attitudes and actions of those opposed to them.
I mean what would you do if you were presented with hate and rejection for the crime of freedom of expression in the Uk?
>but we won’t go quietly
Which is why people don’t like you. Although there’s a bit of xenophobia(?) mixed in.
It’s funny how a community that demands right based on ‘we must constantly travel’ immediately build permanent bungalows on any land they can get hold of. And bearing in mind they make it clear that they dont think ‘settled people’s’ laws need to be followed, what community would want them.
I’m sure there are nice travellers but my only experience with them is when they’d set up in my village and go on crime sprees…. almost once a year
My parents live near Market Harbourough, which apparently gets an annual group of travellers gather. Our nearby village had a group of travellers sey up on county council land the night before. They left the following were pretty respectful, left the next morning, no rubbish or anything but tracks left behind.
Next day my dad goes in to Harborough to pick up some Chinese food, the pubs are mostly shut, takeaway is rammed. Day after that there’s a few people in hospital for severe machete wounds due to a traveller dispute. Lovely
The problem is they never live there quietly or go quietly, they absolutely wreck the place with little or no care for the community around them. They bring crime.
I’ve lived near travellers for quite a bit of my life. There was one or two individuals in my school who were fairly affable, and even kind on occasion.
But on balance, Neither me nor anyone I know has observed them not acting anti socially in some way. From bullying, fly tipping, squatting, theft, violence to child abuse.
My last interaction was sitting in a sauna listening to grown men instruct their children what to steal from the locker room while they gobbed phlegm on the floor.
This is the local family’s 17 year old playing GTA in real life and nearly killing a motorcyclist:
https://youtu.be/aG4rJyTD8BE?si=4hJkFcCIGfUNHI8_
I hear from a neighbour he also enjoys shooting cats.
It really isn’t about a race or culture thing, despite what their army of lawyers and useful idiots would have you believe.
It’s the behaviour. People locally have little problem with hippies living in caravans or any other ethnic minority, because they dont act like this.
I don’t care if this comment gets banned or I get kicked from the sub. This is the truth.
I mean surely that just reinforces the hate, be the change you want to see ffs.
We had some travellers set up down our local park a couple of weeks ago. Thankfully, they were moved on within 48 hours but the mess they left in that short space of time was insane. Dirty nappies, burnt out furniture, rubbish scattered everywhere.
I was about 8 years old on a football team with some travellers, I thought they was okay until one of the older ones pulled me to the side and told me he was going to stab me to death after the game, the coach guy was like “you should go home now quickly” and I did. Was terrifying.
I saw them a few times after that, there was a construction site near my house and they would run it when someone was driving out to grab stuff. Thought it was wild.
This was Preston so people here might know them as they life in a permanent spot down near the city centre. They aren’t to be messed with or weren’t when I was a kid.
Their community needs to start looking down on bad behaviour instead of trying to defend it or blame settled people for it.
At a village fair near me last year a few of the kids knocked over a portaloo with an elderly woman inside – when the family was confronted instead of apologising or telling the kids off, they instead kicked off and started throwing chairs at people – even the grand parents were threatening to cut people. Police as usual did nothing, because I guess it was the elderly woman’s fault for daring to go in a wobbly portaloo while travellers were around
I’m reminded of what I heard/read someone say in the US (it was ages ago, pre-Obama even). It was someone from the southern US saying something along the lines of “I’m from the south and we live next door and work in the same places as African-Americans, our lives are interlinked and yeah we don’t necessarily like each other and say bad things. Go to the north and to one of your fancy liberal white areas and an African-American family moves in you’ll be having panic attacks and even looking to move out of the area. Yet you call **us** the racists.”
I wonder how many of the r/uk purest of the pure who criticise negative comments would actually welcome these people if they moved onto their local park or school playing field?
Ah those poor travellers. Just want to thieve, fight and be threatening to others for no reason in peace!
This and the current shoplifting epidemic highlight the total inadequacy of the British legal system. If I do 78 on the motorway, I’m processed and fined within 2 weeks. If I just set up home on someone’s land or nick half of their shop, the chances of anything being done to me within 2 years is pretty much zero.
“We won’t go quietly” which is exactly why you aren’t welcome in the first place.
There was a massive traveller funeral near where I live. (Both were drunk and crashed their car at high speed in a country lane). The travellers arrived at the cemetery, paid thousands and thousands of pounds in cash for the plot. That night the cemetery was broken into, ransacked and all of the groundskeeping tools, mowers etc. were stolen. The next day, two vans pulled up outside a small supermarket. A group of young men jumped out and stripped the supermarket of every drop of alcohol before getting back in the vans and leaving. Of course this could all be coincidence 😁
There are a few permanent traveller sites near where i live in Berkshire and the folks living there are sound. No issues, some of the kids go to the same school as ours did and everything is fine.
A seperate community of itinerant Esox moved onto a village green a couple of years back and when they left the result was rather different. I’ve never been to the shitty part of Mogadishu but the amount of litter, rubble, random holes in the ground and piles of actual shit (both human and dog) and filthy nappies gave me a bit of an idea what it might be like.
The only thing to stop this is something I can’t write without getting banned
Hating each other won’t solve any problem. Councils need to employ negotiators to deal with tensions.
They don’t make themselves welcome. We had a group visit a few years back, after cutting barriers off the entrance to the local meadow.
My parents and I nipped to the shop, came back about 20-30 minutes later and our caravan was gone. Locks cut off with a circular saw, clearly had someone watching the house to wait until we’d gone out. Never saw it again, probably wouldn’t want it back after they’ve had it.
And a few months ago, they set up in a field opposite my gym, turned up in the place causing havoc and ended up getting chased off by the local grafters and dealers. You know it’s bad when you’re siding with the local dealers.
I’m traveller and a pretty standard person. I’m pretty sick of people making racist comments and like a lot of us, we keep our ethnicity secret. Happy to answer any questions as I also have worked in the planning sector and done community work etc.
The fact that they had approved houses on the land these travellers wanted to park a trailer tells you a lot.
My family live on a legal and well run site in the north of England, we mainly travel for the Appleby Fair and occasionally to take the horses out and we have a Varda but don’t really live in it. Live in statics. I live in a house with my partner.
The uk is very unfriendly but Europe is far far worse.