Listened to an interesting podcast the other day between two business leaders. When discussing the UK, one of them was quite passionate and said we need to stop lieing to people. The UK is bad and it’s going to get A LOT worse.
All the signs are there and we just aren’t fixing any of them, economy or politics.
One of the comments was.. ‘The UK will be the next India’.
Make of that what you will.
Sally_Traffic on
Honestly a laugh out loud moment with the poor soles with £80k a year, three cars and their son has just stared driving which has impacted their daughters horse riding and they no longer use their hot tub 😂
regprenticer on
Food banks are genuinely large complex organisations now with warehouse, HR staff, fleets of vans and so on. They’re speaking to social workers, doctors, MPs , DWP every week. Even supermarkets now rely on them to move out of date stock which they get to write of as “donations”.
You’ll never get rid of the food banks now, they are absolutely ingrained in society.
APx_35 on
Why do they turn to food banks? Can they just not just live off the pure joy that their taxes pay for some millionaire boomer to get an ever increasing state pension thanks to the triple lock?
Alive-Turnip-3145 on
Taxing income doesn’t discriminate if that income is spent on housing, food and heating OR televisions, cars and hot tubs.
We should be taking a long hard look at how we tax in this country. Cutting taxes on work and shifting the taxes onto consumption of non-essentials.
And obviously, the most important thing – we should looking at absolutely every means possible to shift taxes away from work and onto assets.
IDPTheory on
You only get a few uses of a food bank within a period before they won’t serve you any more. It’s supposed to be a brief top up to get you by but in my experience, anyone relying on a food bank is doing so because they don’t have other options.
cartesian5th on
We should try increasing their taxes, that will work
Illustrious-Engine23 on
Genuinely, can’t state enough how much I hate what this country has become.
Feels closer to a 3rd world country than first.
DefinitelyARealHorse on
“Something something avocado toast”
• Some Tory cunt
JakeGreyjoy on
We’re going to be ground even lower in the coming budget. Normal people will be pushed and pushed until we’re all working but in poverty.
The economic model is in its late stages . It’s ultimately unsustainable to continue having an elite wealth class skimming and hording assets
DecentManufacturer27 on
That’s what you get after 14 years of pay freezes and mismanagement of the economy. We’re basically bankrupt as a nation so why can’t do anything but raises taxes or cut spending, which is already down to the bone. The triple lock and boomer generation are costing this nation an absolute fortune, while a stretched young work force pays for their existence.
Extra-Fig-7425 on
I watched that, one of them in on 80k.. i sm thinking how much was it was because they over extended themselves before on buying the house etc..
not saying a lot isnt struggling but there will defo be letting lifestyle creeps set in.
Jensablefur on
You know what we need to remove? Job shame.
I’m talking that middle class mum threatening her kids with: “You’ll end up doing cleaning or working in McDonald’s if you don’t try harder at school”.
That mindset. The problem is, if people look down on the jobs at “the bottom” then they dehumanise those roles and they eventually become comfortable with the person helping them at Primark or IDing them on the self scan living out of their car or in tent cities (because you’d better believe this is where we are heading).
Everyone who clocks in for their 40 hour week deserves the minimum of food/heating/stable accommodation. And its mad to me that this and any sort of Make Work Pay take is seen as a lefty thing. It should be a universal opinion that crosses the aisle.
I_am_Reddit_Tom on
I was absolutely guaranteed that this was only a Tory problem.
SuperCorbynite on
Housing costs, housing costs, housing costs.
The poorer sectors of society are the ones that use food banks, and they are being bled dry by them.
Food banks won’t solve the problem; tripling our rate of house building and collapsing our housing costs will.
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Listened to an interesting podcast the other day between two business leaders. When discussing the UK, one of them was quite passionate and said we need to stop lieing to people. The UK is bad and it’s going to get A LOT worse.
All the signs are there and we just aren’t fixing any of them, economy or politics.
One of the comments was.. ‘The UK will be the next India’.
Make of that what you will.
Honestly a laugh out loud moment with the poor soles with £80k a year, three cars and their son has just stared driving which has impacted their daughters horse riding and they no longer use their hot tub 😂
Food banks are genuinely large complex organisations now with warehouse, HR staff, fleets of vans and so on. They’re speaking to social workers, doctors, MPs , DWP every week. Even supermarkets now rely on them to move out of date stock which they get to write of as “donations”.
You’ll never get rid of the food banks now, they are absolutely ingrained in society.
Why do they turn to food banks? Can they just not just live off the pure joy that their taxes pay for some millionaire boomer to get an ever increasing state pension thanks to the triple lock?
Taxing income doesn’t discriminate if that income is spent on housing, food and heating OR televisions, cars and hot tubs.
We should be taking a long hard look at how we tax in this country. Cutting taxes on work and shifting the taxes onto consumption of non-essentials.
And obviously, the most important thing – we should looking at absolutely every means possible to shift taxes away from work and onto assets.
You only get a few uses of a food bank within a period before they won’t serve you any more. It’s supposed to be a brief top up to get you by but in my experience, anyone relying on a food bank is doing so because they don’t have other options.
We should try increasing their taxes, that will work
Genuinely, can’t state enough how much I hate what this country has become.
Feels closer to a 3rd world country than first.
“Something something avocado toast”
• Some Tory cunt
We’re going to be ground even lower in the coming budget. Normal people will be pushed and pushed until we’re all working but in poverty.
The economic model is in its late stages . It’s ultimately unsustainable to continue having an elite wealth class skimming and hording assets
That’s what you get after 14 years of pay freezes and mismanagement of the economy. We’re basically bankrupt as a nation so why can’t do anything but raises taxes or cut spending, which is already down to the bone. The triple lock and boomer generation are costing this nation an absolute fortune, while a stretched young work force pays for their existence.
I watched that, one of them in on 80k.. i sm thinking how much was it was because they over extended themselves before on buying the house etc..
not saying a lot isnt struggling but there will defo be letting lifestyle creeps set in.
You know what we need to remove? Job shame.
I’m talking that middle class mum threatening her kids with: “You’ll end up doing cleaning or working in McDonald’s if you don’t try harder at school”.
That mindset. The problem is, if people look down on the jobs at “the bottom” then they dehumanise those roles and they eventually become comfortable with the person helping them at Primark or IDing them on the self scan living out of their car or in tent cities (because you’d better believe this is where we are heading).
Everyone who clocks in for their 40 hour week deserves the minimum of food/heating/stable accommodation. And its mad to me that this and any sort of Make Work Pay take is seen as a lefty thing. It should be a universal opinion that crosses the aisle.
I was absolutely guaranteed that this was only a Tory problem.
Housing costs, housing costs, housing costs.
The poorer sectors of society are the ones that use food banks, and they are being bled dry by them.
Food banks won’t solve the problem; tripling our rate of house building and collapsing our housing costs will.
[https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/english-housing-survey-2022-to-2023-affordability-and-cost-of-living-fact-sheet/english-housing-survey-2022-to-2023-affordability-and-cost-of-living-fact-sheet#proportion-of-income-spent-on-housing](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/english-housing-survey-2022-to-2023-affordability-and-cost-of-living-fact-sheet/english-housing-survey-2022-to-2023-affordability-and-cost-of-living-fact-sheet#proportion-of-income-spent-on-housing)