In the Serbian nationalist forums, a quote from Tvrtko’s charter is often picked up where he mentions his "Prarrhiters, Mr. Serbian". And then it is used as "evidence" That Tvrtko was exclusively a Serb, and therefore Bosniaks were declared a fictional people and that Tvrtko was exclusively the Serbian king.

But … if we are already playing that game, then the whole truth should be said – in the same charter, Tvrtko repeatedly mentions Mr. Bosnian – which, of course, is filtered and omitted in nationalist interpretations, to make it easier for the brain to follow the escorts.

Red 4: "… To inherit the throne of my ancestors, the Lord of Serbian …"

Red 9: "… with our Majesty’s ancestors, with Mr. Bosnian."

Red 11–12: "… laws and contracts and charters and trademarks that have had with the Lord Bosanski."

Red 13: "… contracts and laws and charters that the city of Dubrovnik had with Mr. Serbian and Rasko."

Red 30: "… What kind of foremen did the forefathers and parents of the Kingdom of Srpska and Bosnian."

Here, Tvrtko clearly speaks of his forefathers from both sides – both “Serbian” and “Bosnian” – which can be understood in the light of his origin. His grandmother Jelisavet was from the Serbian dynasty of Nemanjic, so it is logical to admit the Serbian legacy. However, the use of the construction of “Lord Serbian and Bosnian” shows that he sees two separate political and dynastic roots.

Keeping these ranks does not say anything about the company, but that is why it speaks all about those who interpret them today.

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12 Comments

  1. A_Child_of_Adam on

    Ili, pazi ovo:

    Etničke razlike su bile minimalne i ovdje se priča na regionalnom nivou.

    Šokantna ideja znam, ipak sam ja komunjara.

  2. PigletMaterial1980 on

    Za Bošnjački identitet, za ovakve stvari je najbolje praviti se da ne postoje 

  3. Charlie_TwoFiveThree on

    Zanimljivo, imena Tvrtko nema kod srpskopravoslavnog stanovništva. Ja još nikada nisam sreo Srbina s ovim imenom.

  4. Ne shvatanje nasljedstva I feudalnog plemstva. Kraljevi I velike porodice tog perioda su se međusobno uzimali zbog savezništva. Sasvim je normalno da X kralj iz obližnje države ima predaka iz druge. Po ovoj logici pola Nemanjića su zapravo Grci, Bugari etc. Po ovoj logici Kralj(ica) Jadviga Poljske je zapravo Bosanka zbog svoje majke.

  5. Hrvati na aparatima phahah.

    Tvrtko da se digne iz groba, svu bi Bosnu sasjekao i krenuo ispočetka.

  6. Frederico_de_Soya on

    E nepopularno mišljenje. Tvrtka i svu ostalu gospodu (plemstvo) je boleo kurac za nacionalnost, etničku pripadnost ili veroispovest. Jedino ga je (njih) interesovalo je koliko novca, koliko zemlje, stoke i koliko naroda ima/kontrolise. Samim tim on navodi i svoje srpske i bosanske korene da bi validirao svoj postojeci status i buduce pretenzije. A sto se tiče modernih bošnjaka, sva ta dobra srednjovekovna gospoda su rado prešli i hrišćanstva (sto katoličkog sto pravoslavnog) u islam ako je to značilo da mogu da sačuvaju svoj dotadašnji imetek i omogući im dalje bogaćenje i kontrolu već spomenute imovine. Zato aj malo iskuliras sa ovim smarackim postovanjem o tvrdku i dokazivanju da je on bosanac. Da si u srednjem veku kad i on, on bi bio patricije a ti plebs, on bi jeo janjetinu a ti konjsku balegu.

  7. Ljudi ne shvataju da pojam Bosanca (Bosnjanina) i Srbina tada i danas veze nemaju jedni s drugim.