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  1. LicketySplit21 on

    Transgender Men always get fucked in this stupid bullshit. Would be very interested to know what the response from Virgin Active would be on the scenario of a bearded bloke with a vagina changing next to women. Or is that different somehow?

  2. PetersMapProject on

    That’s going to go well when a bearded, muscled, boobless female-to-male transgender man walks into the women’s changing rooms. 

  3. Seems like they’re implementing a policy which best suits the needs of the majority of their customer base, whilst (per their quote below) implementing facilities to suit the needs of others too to make sure nobody is left out. Surely no issue here?

    > The spokesperson added: “Most of our clubs already provide single-occupancy, non-gendered facilities that can be used by anyone, and we are working to make these available in all locations as quickly as possible.”

  4. Virgin Active are going against the law trying to introduce guidance without law change
    this is pure manipulation of the supreme court’s ruling has to stop.

    No laws have changed in any way so blocking someone from using the changing room based on feelings and not law is going to create legal problems.

    When the law changes make changes untill then don’t brake the law

  5. What *is* the answer for single-sex areas, though? Or do we just have to transition to a world where everyone has their own private changing/shower area and male/female splits are a thing of the past?

  6. Just as well gym staff are all sane and reasonable people who never ever get odd on the tiny bit of power they have, otherwise you could easily manage scenarios where they start demanding to people junk.

  7. A bit of a shower thought about toilets and changing rooms. If a company wants to say that you should use the one that matches your biological sex, should the signs specifically say “male” or “female” rather than a picture of a person wearing trousers or a skirt?

    Women often wear trousers even if they’re not transgender, and men can wear a skirt. So it seems to me that if you look like the picture, then you can use that toilet or changing room.

  8. I hate this timeline. Can we go back to when no one cared which bathroom trans people used??

    Like what are you all doing by sinks that requires that only people with the ‘right’ set of sexual organs are around?? 

  9. supercakefish on

    Just have universal gender-neutral ones. The fully enclosed, separated en-suite style ones. My gym and my workplace both do.

    Makes sense to separate sexes in buildings which see a lot of foot traffic such as motorway services etc. where urinals are necessary, but for many places unisex is best in my experience.