When wages rise rents go up. If goods get cheaper rent goes up. If taxes are cut rents go up. When businesses’ profits go up their rent goes up. Our economy is set up to benefit landowners while those who don’t own land are screwed at every turn.
Wages are kept low and prices are kept high because any improvement in the economy is immediately appropriated by the landowning class. Only ten percent of bank lending is in productive assets, most of the rest is in land.
We need a land value tax to redress the balance of power between landowners and the rest of the country. No-one created the land yet over half of the county is owned by less than 1% of the population. The value of land is created by the entire national community and the rent extracted should belong to the public, not the oligarchs, aristocrats and banks
Unintelligiblenoise_ on
Crazy suggestion of the day …. Bulid more homes more specifically studios and one beds
Davesbeard on
A third of your income on rent seems like a sensible amount.
That’s the ratio I was always taught was reasonable.
Rasples1998 on
Only 36%? This is either wildly inaccurate, or it’s combining both partners incomes compared to the cost of renting. An individual would be spending 50-70% of their income on rent alone.
yterais on
Amateurs, in Poland it’s one full income for rent, even more sometimes
forzafoggia85 on
Only 36%? My ‘affordable housing’ rent is close to 50% of my income. It’s disgraceful
dcrm on
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s considered relatively affordable and is nowhere near as bad as it can, or will get.
> The percentage of income spent on rent varies significantly by country and even within regions of a country. Generally, a rent-to-income ratio between 25% and 40% is considered relatively affordable
If you want to look at actual unaffordable rents then look at somewhere like HK where it’s 65% of income. Hell look at London in isolation and you’re likely going to break that 40%.
PLTuck on
36% hahahah if only!!!
I was spending 85% of my income on rent less than 5 years ago.
RandomSher on
A third wow this is very reasonable if that was true, if I was not married mine would be way more then just a third.
beeslouise on
Yeah 36% seems low.
This article likely lumps together the shambolic DIY studios and quite frankly uninhabitable mouldy HMOs with what should be a reasonable standard of living for the prices we are expected to pay.
Take out the former and I’d put this figure closer to 45-55% of net pay.
xParesh on
This article gets hauled out every few months.
You can pretty much stop reading the article when it suggests residents of Kensington and Chelsea spend 73.4% of their gross median income on rent.
Most people don’t work in the same borough they live in so comparing earning and rents like that is meaningless.
In places like London most properties are have couples or friends so that cost is split and most single people live in shared houses or HMOs. There are so very high earning individuals who are earning enough to have their own place.
BaBeBaBeBooby on
For context, what % of income was spent on rent over the past 30 years?
UnravelledGhoul on
I earn just under £36k, and I spend 26% of my monthly income on rent. Plus another £140 on council tax, which boots it to 33%. This doesn’t include electricity, that’d be probably another £200/month depending on the time of year. Which goes up to almost 42%.
So just to keep a roof over my head, water running, pay taxes to the council, and keep the lights on, that’s almost half of my pay a month. Then we have food, bills, internet, etc.
And £36k is a good amount of money to make! I’m not complaining about that. But the cost of everything else.
I couldn’t survive if I was still at the same job I was at less than 5 years ago, when I was under £20k.
Nosferatatron on
The economy is never going to grow whilst so much money is pouring into boring bricks and mortar
PerceptionGreat2439 on
As a teenager back in the 80s.
Flat hunting was a breeze. You just looked through the local newspaper or at the local newsagents window for accommodation. Ring the number, go see the flat, pay the deposit, sign some sort of contract (sometimes there wasn’t one) and move in.
Times have changed.
SherlockeXX on
I’m looking at renting flats at the moment. 36% pre-tax income is spot on what I’m looking at really, but after tax it’s closer to 55-60% without considering bills, council tax, etc. It’s a miserable situation.
Angelsomething on
really can’t figure out why that is. our estate agents just asked if we wanted to counter-offer a £400 pm rent increase. weird. real mystery.
William_Ballsucker on
I miss my Japan shoebox that was like £300 a month lol
nearbycat666 on
In 2019 I was paying £575 and my monthly wage was £1200. 47.9% of my income.
_Alpha-Delta_ on
Seems kinda normal in most Western countries. In France, my rent is about 32% of my income…
AirResistence on
Part of the problem is that for decades the UK mostly built 3-4 bedroom houses. A sizeable number of those are now split into HMOs, so theres people spending £500+ for a room. We are never going to fix the housing crisis as long as the country just builds houses. Every single new housing development is nothing but houses, but they’re now smaller than they use to be built. We really need to be building blocks of flats.
wkavinsky on
36% of **net** income is affordable.
36% of **gross** income is most definitely not.
AugustineBlackwater on
36% – *forgive me* – doesn’t seem that crazy. I would have thought it would at least be 50% in the current climate with landlords gouging people.
Almost 2/5 of your salary/wage seems okay, it actually seems rather reasonable. The issue I’ve got is that this statistics doesn’t actually seem to reflect reality given every place I’ve looked at wants at least half my wages each month.
Then again, I live in Greater London, so just to clarify, not central but the outer boroughs and 36% is NOT the case here. Even in the working class areas (to which I’m from), rent is usually around £1300 minimum.
fffffffjtrdc on
Too many landlords that can’t afford to be landlords.
If you have more than 20% of the house left to pay off, you shouldn’t be able to rent it out. Rent wouldn’t be so high if landlord wasn’t trying to cover his 90% mortgage debt
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When wages rise rents go up. If goods get cheaper rent goes up. If taxes are cut rents go up. When businesses’ profits go up their rent goes up. Our economy is set up to benefit landowners while those who don’t own land are screwed at every turn.
Wages are kept low and prices are kept high because any improvement in the economy is immediately appropriated by the landowning class. Only ten percent of bank lending is in productive assets, most of the rest is in land.
We need a land value tax to redress the balance of power between landowners and the rest of the country. No-one created the land yet over half of the county is owned by less than 1% of the population. The value of land is created by the entire national community and the rent extracted should belong to the public, not the oligarchs, aristocrats and banks
Crazy suggestion of the day …. Bulid more homes more specifically studios and one beds
A third of your income on rent seems like a sensible amount.
That’s the ratio I was always taught was reasonable.
Only 36%? This is either wildly inaccurate, or it’s combining both partners incomes compared to the cost of renting. An individual would be spending 50-70% of their income on rent alone.
Amateurs, in Poland it’s one full income for rent, even more sometimes
Only 36%? My ‘affordable housing’ rent is close to 50% of my income. It’s disgraceful
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s considered relatively affordable and is nowhere near as bad as it can, or will get.
> The percentage of income spent on rent varies significantly by country and even within regions of a country. Generally, a rent-to-income ratio between 25% and 40% is considered relatively affordable
If you want to look at actual unaffordable rents then look at somewhere like HK where it’s 65% of income. Hell look at London in isolation and you’re likely going to break that 40%.
36% hahahah if only!!!
I was spending 85% of my income on rent less than 5 years ago.
A third wow this is very reasonable if that was true, if I was not married mine would be way more then just a third.
Yeah 36% seems low.
This article likely lumps together the shambolic DIY studios and quite frankly uninhabitable mouldy HMOs with what should be a reasonable standard of living for the prices we are expected to pay.
Take out the former and I’d put this figure closer to 45-55% of net pay.
This article gets hauled out every few months.
You can pretty much stop reading the article when it suggests residents of Kensington and Chelsea spend 73.4% of their gross median income on rent.
Most people don’t work in the same borough they live in so comparing earning and rents like that is meaningless.
In places like London most properties are have couples or friends so that cost is split and most single people live in shared houses or HMOs. There are so very high earning individuals who are earning enough to have their own place.
For context, what % of income was spent on rent over the past 30 years?
I earn just under £36k, and I spend 26% of my monthly income on rent. Plus another £140 on council tax, which boots it to 33%. This doesn’t include electricity, that’d be probably another £200/month depending on the time of year. Which goes up to almost 42%.
So just to keep a roof over my head, water running, pay taxes to the council, and keep the lights on, that’s almost half of my pay a month. Then we have food, bills, internet, etc.
And £36k is a good amount of money to make! I’m not complaining about that. But the cost of everything else.
I couldn’t survive if I was still at the same job I was at less than 5 years ago, when I was under £20k.
The economy is never going to grow whilst so much money is pouring into boring bricks and mortar
As a teenager back in the 80s.
Flat hunting was a breeze. You just looked through the local newspaper or at the local newsagents window for accommodation. Ring the number, go see the flat, pay the deposit, sign some sort of contract (sometimes there wasn’t one) and move in.
Times have changed.
I’m looking at renting flats at the moment. 36% pre-tax income is spot on what I’m looking at really, but after tax it’s closer to 55-60% without considering bills, council tax, etc. It’s a miserable situation.
really can’t figure out why that is. our estate agents just asked if we wanted to counter-offer a £400 pm rent increase. weird. real mystery.
I miss my Japan shoebox that was like £300 a month lol
In 2019 I was paying £575 and my monthly wage was £1200. 47.9% of my income.
Seems kinda normal in most Western countries. In France, my rent is about 32% of my income…
Part of the problem is that for decades the UK mostly built 3-4 bedroom houses. A sizeable number of those are now split into HMOs, so theres people spending £500+ for a room. We are never going to fix the housing crisis as long as the country just builds houses. Every single new housing development is nothing but houses, but they’re now smaller than they use to be built. We really need to be building blocks of flats.
36% of **net** income is affordable.
36% of **gross** income is most definitely not.
36% – *forgive me* – doesn’t seem that crazy. I would have thought it would at least be 50% in the current climate with landlords gouging people.
Almost 2/5 of your salary/wage seems okay, it actually seems rather reasonable. The issue I’ve got is that this statistics doesn’t actually seem to reflect reality given every place I’ve looked at wants at least half my wages each month.
Then again, I live in Greater London, so just to clarify, not central but the outer boroughs and 36% is NOT the case here. Even in the working class areas (to which I’m from), rent is usually around £1300 minimum.
Too many landlords that can’t afford to be landlords.
If you have more than 20% of the house left to pay off, you shouldn’t be able to rent it out. Rent wouldn’t be so high if landlord wasn’t trying to cover his 90% mortgage debt