I don’t believe that NATO will ever accept Ukraine. However when the war is over it makes sense to involve experienced Ukrainian officers as instructors and consultants. Their experience is indeed very valuable.
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PumpkinOpposite967 on
I get banned from reddit for saying stuff like that. Good on them.
Olszaqk on
Russia would never dare to attack Ukraine again if it joined NATO – that’s the only real guarantee after any “peace-deal” with scumbag like putin
nightcom on
We already visited Moscow….so I think we know what we need to know
Leading_Sir_1741 on
Fair point, tbh.
West_Doughnut_901 on
Kinda true. US recently published new guides for their tanks, where they have to shoot drones with main weapon…
Specialist-Stuff6255 on
I got no issue with Ukraine joining NATO at all tbh. I just don’t think they should join the EU until they 1. are not at war anymore and 2. meet the same criteria everyone else had to. People forget how corrupted of a shithole Ukraine was before the war, the politicians didn’t change, they just moved into the background and they actively work to break down anti-corruption institutions even in time of war. It would be like voluntarily accepting cancer. Also if Croatia had to deal with their Ustasa before joining, so should Ukraine with UPA, OUN and the whole rest of the bunch.
DueLion402 on
They cannot join NATO as long as they are at war otherwise it would trigger Article 5 automatically against Russia.
minobi on
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Wintermute841 on
Gotta love how the usual Ukrainian nationalism shines through the statement.
Killing Russians is not some magical superpower impossible to obtain by non-Ukrainians and historically speaking Poles have done it quite well, case in point a certain Bolshevik invasion of Europe that never got off the ground.
If some legends are to be believed the current Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs might have even fired a shot or two at some kacaps in Afghanistan.
MultitudeOfBees on
Good. The drone knowledge that Ukraine possesses is on its own a great reason to let them join NATO.
Erlululu on
UA ‘diplomacy’ ehh
InternationalOne2449 on
You have to meet certain condition to join nato.
0mica0 on
Ultrabased
Primarch_Sanguinius on
Oh yeah it’s going great for Ukraine, inexistent economy, debt, mass exodo of population who doesn’t want to return, lack of manpower yeah they really know how to
OrdinaryMac on
Wierd flex but ok, NATO first policy for Ukraine makes way more sense than trying to get them into EU first.
There are systemic issues with getting into EU, but NATO has quite lax requirements solely connected to defence,security and deterrence, EU as economic deal/integration can only be facilitated when there is lasting peace and money invested in reconstruction is guaranteed to not to be blown up few years into the future.
rksp2 on
imo saying that Ukraine has the biggest and most experienced army in Europe sounds way more diplomatic and valuable then just “killin”…
ZielonaKrowa on
Are they aware that it will not be vetoed by other states like USA, France,UK etc? And I am pretty sure that current government of Hungary will say no regardless of anything Ukraine can do.
We have knowledge on killing Russians way before Ukraine was even a conceptual idea
Duskflow on
So this brings us back to the fact that the alliance was created against Russia and Putin was right.
PsychologicalPlane21 on
They should deal with their corruption, then they can talk.
got_light on
We must all learn how to, definitely.
nothekko on
Aye, fair enough
tightblade_r on
I bet NATO will beg Ukraine to join in case russia invades the Baltic countries. Just because NATO doesn’t have experienced troops.
deithven on
Cannot agree more, he is simply correct in his statement.
MittchelDraco on
Look like someone slept in history class, or learned only about nazi bandera on it.
Guy is barking at the wrong tree, telling Poles how to kill ruskies, despite recent 1920 anniversary, or tye fact that it was Poland, who got to Moscow, not Ukraine.
Its funny to watch how some Ukrainians got bold, cause they got some help from NATO. Some may say that it was’t even deserved…
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He is not wrong.
Facts!
That is a pretty based reason, ngl.
I don’t believe that NATO will ever accept Ukraine. However when the war is over it makes sense to involve experienced Ukrainian officers as instructors and consultants. Their experience is indeed very valuable.
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I get banned from reddit for saying stuff like that. Good on them.
Russia would never dare to attack Ukraine again if it joined NATO – that’s the only real guarantee after any “peace-deal” with scumbag like putin
We already visited Moscow….so I think we know what we need to know
Fair point, tbh.
Kinda true. US recently published new guides for their tanks, where they have to shoot drones with main weapon…
I got no issue with Ukraine joining NATO at all tbh. I just don’t think they should join the EU until they 1. are not at war anymore and 2. meet the same criteria everyone else had to. People forget how corrupted of a shithole Ukraine was before the war, the politicians didn’t change, they just moved into the background and they actively work to break down anti-corruption institutions even in time of war. It would be like voluntarily accepting cancer. Also if Croatia had to deal with their Ustasa before joining, so should Ukraine with UPA, OUN and the whole rest of the bunch.
They cannot join NATO as long as they are at war otherwise it would trigger Article 5 automatically against Russia.
Sharing is caring
Gotta love how the usual Ukrainian nationalism shines through the statement.
Killing Russians is not some magical superpower impossible to obtain by non-Ukrainians and historically speaking Poles have done it quite well, case in point a certain Bolshevik invasion of Europe that never got off the ground.
If some legends are to be believed the current Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs might have even fired a shot or two at some kacaps in Afghanistan.
Good. The drone knowledge that Ukraine possesses is on its own a great reason to let them join NATO.
UA ‘diplomacy’ ehh
You have to meet certain condition to join nato.
Ultrabased
Oh yeah it’s going great for Ukraine, inexistent economy, debt, mass exodo of population who doesn’t want to return, lack of manpower yeah they really know how to
Wierd flex but ok, NATO first policy for Ukraine makes way more sense than trying to get them into EU first.
There are systemic issues with getting into EU, but NATO has quite lax requirements solely connected to defence,security and deterrence, EU as economic deal/integration can only be facilitated when there is lasting peace and money invested in reconstruction is guaranteed to not to be blown up few years into the future.
imo saying that Ukraine has the biggest and most experienced army in Europe sounds way more diplomatic and valuable then just “killin”…
Are they aware that it will not be vetoed by other states like USA, France,UK etc? And I am pretty sure that current government of Hungary will say no regardless of anything Ukraine can do.
May I remind y’all- [https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/05/22/polish-opposition-presidential-candidate-signs-far-right-leaders-list-of-demands/](https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/05/22/polish-opposition-presidential-candidate-signs-far-right-leaders-list-of-demands/)
Ukraine can join BRICS if they want though
We have knowledge on killing Russians way before Ukraine was even a conceptual idea
So this brings us back to the fact that the alliance was created against Russia and Putin was right.
They should deal with their corruption, then they can talk.
We must all learn how to, definitely.
Aye, fair enough
I bet NATO will beg Ukraine to join in case russia invades the Baltic countries. Just because NATO doesn’t have experienced troops.
Cannot agree more, he is simply correct in his statement.
Look like someone slept in history class, or learned only about nazi bandera on it.
Guy is barking at the wrong tree, telling Poles how to kill ruskies, despite recent 1920 anniversary, or tye fact that it was Poland, who got to Moscow, not Ukraine.
Its funny to watch how some Ukrainians got bold, cause they got some help from NATO. Some may say that it was’t even deserved…