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  1. The chancellor may use the autumn budget to end the tax exemption under plans that will be seen as a ‘mansion tax’.

    Rachel Reeves is drawing up plans to hit the owners of high-value properties with capital gains tax when they sell their homes as she attempts to fill a £40 billion hole in the public finances.
    The chancellor is considering using the autumn budget to end the current exemption from capital gains tax that people enjoy when they sell their “primary” residence under plans that will be seen as a “mansion tax”.
    Higher-rate taxpayers would have to pay 24 per cent of the value of any “gain” they make from the increase in the value of their property while basic rate taxpayers would have to pay 18 per cent.

    Under the plans the current exemption from capital gains tax, known as private residence relief, would come to an end for properties above a certain threshold.
    While the threshold is the subject of live discussion in the Treasury, officials believe it could raise significant sums of money. A threshold of £1.5 million would hit around 120,000 homeowners who are higher-rate taxpayers with capital gains tax bills of £199,973.
    However, property experts warned that the owners of more expensive properties could choose to simply stay put instead of selling up and this could stymie the housing market and limit revenues for the government. There are also concerns that it could hit pensioners who want to downsize particularly hard.

    Aneisha Beveridge, head of research at the estate agent Hamptons, said: “It’s a big change that would hit long-term owners hardest and create a cliff-edge at £1.5 million, distorting behaviour around that point.
    “While the headline gains look substantial, they’re often the result of decades of ownership and, in some cases, house prices haven’t even kept pace with inflation.
    “For households who don’t need to move, this could act as a strong disincentive to sell, dampening transactions and potentially weighing on house price growth and Treasury revenues alike.”
    The Treasury is also looking at the idea of imposing an entirely new tax on the sale of more expensive homes, as first reported by The Guardian. However, government sources rejected suggestions that the threshold for a potential annual levy would be £500,000, suggesting it would have to be far higher to avoid slowing the market.
    No decisions have been taken given the budget is months out. Reeves is said to be concerned that Britain’s property taxes are outdated and in need of reform and she also has limited room for manoeuvre given Labour’s manifesto commitments.

    The chancellor will put the principle of “fairness” at the heart of her budget. She is looking at property taxes after ruling out increasing income tax, national insurance or VAT in Labour’s manifesto. The manifesto also included an explicit pledge by the government not to raise taxes on working people.
    There are concerns that the current council tax system is deeply unfair because it is based on property values from 1991. Critics say that this has led to a “regressive” system under which a house valued at £1 million pays only twice as much council tax as a house worth £80,000.
    The Treasury has considered adding additional bands in the past but any changes are likely to be highly complex and would carry significant political risk.
    Removing the capital gains tax exemption for higher-value properties is viewed as a more realistic revenue-raiser.

  2. Good. Our property tax system needs sorting out. The best thing would be a land value tax but this would be a step in the right direction

  3. the_englishman on

    As a recent buyer of a higher-value home, it would put be in a distinctly unenviable position tax wise. I have already paid a large stamp duty bill that can cannot be recovered. But that was the dela at the time, pay up front and then the property is yours. Now the tax goal post are being changed to clip buyers on the sale, not the purchase. So if the property does not rise much in value I face the distinct possibility of being left worse off overall even without paying capital gains tax on the increase in value of a primary residence. Unlike long-term owners sitting on big gains, I do not get the same cushion yet I would still face the same new rules. That makes selling even less attractive, since it risks locking in a loss, and is likely to leave many recent buyers stuck in place unable to move and gum up the market even more than it already is!

  4. or, just copy what the US does and have a land tax. Taxing someone annually 1/2% of their home value would then encourage people in bigger houses to downsize, or you annually take a bigger slice from those with higher value assets. This current idea will just stop people selling and moving.

  5. Puzzleheaded-Key2212 on

    The thing i was looking at yesterday was that she was looking at targeting houses worth 290,000 or more? Is there any truth to it as £290,000 is a pretty average/mediocre house up north tbh and basically would apply to everyone down south.

    I just bought my 3 bed new build on my own last year. I don’t feel like I need to pay anymore tax if they are looking at property taxes. I am sick of being taxed to the hilt and getting f-all back from this country.

  6. peanutbutteroverload on

    Or you could just plug all of tax holes that corporations and extremely wealthy individuals use to such an extent that it’s an industry unto itself.

  7. Minimum-Geologist-58 on

    This is pretty fair in my mind. Those of us who recently bought an expensive house using taxed income are protected, whereas those who have made an enormous gain sitting on their arses pay the equivalent of what we had to on stamp duty. Meanwhile most of the country’s population is left unaffected.

  8. Skeet_fighter on

    Can we also get an extortionately high tax on anything more than a second home and commercially owned residential properties please?

  9. Opposite_Boot_6903 on

    >Higher-rate taxpayers would have to pay 24 per cent of the value of any “gain” they make from the increase in the value of their property while basic rate taxpayers would have to pay 18 per cent.

    Take some unpaid leave the year you sell and make large pension contributions to get 6% discount on the amount you pay. I’m not an accountant, but this seems like a pretty obvious loophole.

  10. I give it 3 weeks before the Telegraph rolls out the story of an old Doris who has lived in her house in Central London since 1921. Having just fought off the cuts to Winter Fuel Allowances so she can afford ~~her third holiday to Tuscany~~ to heat her home, now Labour are coming after her remaining ~~millions in house value~~ pennies.

  11. I’m a huge fan of this tax because it doesn’t impact me. 

    Oh, fiscal drag. Fuck. 

    I’d be more supportive if Reeves said: “Houses worth more than X times the average price”. She won’t of course. 

  12. I wonder how this policy will work for asset rich cash poor people and whether there will be a race to sell and complete on expensive properties now and complete before the Autumn budget.

    It will impact a lot of Londoner where the average price is already over £500k. That might just cease up the London housing market.

    If the policy is unpopular, people can just decide to sit on their properties until the next parliament where this a possibility a new government may repeal it.

    In any case, its good to see Labour doing Labour things. Whether it all pans out as they hope is anyone’s guess.

  13. This is how the middle class residents of the UK get clobbered by a wealth tax far more than the actual billionaires

  14. How about scrapping the triple lock instead?

    How about stopping a system which has a ridiculous number of the working age population on benefits?

  15. Embarrassed_Run8345 on

    Stop wasting money and control spending would be much better than yet another tax. Govt hands in the pockets of most of South East, not because it’s right but because it fits their ideological model

  16. Does anyone have the sort code and bank account number for HM Treasury please? I thought that I’d just cut out the middle man and get my work to send all my wages direct to them… /s

  17. Relative-Chain73 on

    Design it well Chancellor, cause if it hits the middle class people, it’s gonna be bad.

    If your plan is this won’t hit middle class people because their house gonna get devalued as people down your ladder no longer want to buy your house because of the tax – that is a mental gymnastics right there.
    Do not make it so banks are incentivised to give massive loans to people because unlike fast fashion, house and shelter is a necessity.
    Make it so that it hits multiple house owners, property business, those companies who buy up houses.

    Design it well. Good idea, but i do not expect this labour to design it well.

    Vote Green, vote zarah’s party. red salutes to you all. 

    Sincerely, Foland Brump

  18. keeperofthegrail on

    If anyone here thinks that the £500k threshold will be raised every year in line with inflation, I have a bridge to sell you.

  19. Taxing property is a good idea, but it should be an ongoing tax rather than a transaction tax. They seem to be considering that in order to replace council tax. Land value tax is generally better than property tax which includes the value of land improvements, but is harder to implement due to valuation.

  20. Just need to hold onto that house sale for 3 and a half more years and wait for Reform to abolish it.

  21. Commercial-Silver472 on

    So if you own a £600,000 house and move to another £600,000 house you could end up paying a load of tax if you bought the first house for 300k. Not sure if that’s a great idea. Basically means you can only ever downsize.

    Also can’t see any reason why there would be different tax rates for different income levels, this has nothing to do with income. Seems unfair.

  22. ok, fine, but wouldn’t it be better to look carefully at the tax affairs of those that can afford them?

  23. I wonder what the net effect will be on property prices, people won’t sell but also people will be less keen to buy. Certainly will destroy liquidity in the market although could be some bargains to be had for Blackstone, Lloyds and other corporate buyers Labour seem to like. My general thinking at this point is that anything Rachel does will be revenue negative and achieve the precise opposite of what was intended (as for so many govt policies, of any stripe)

  24. Socialistinoneroom on

    Switching stamp duty for an annual property tax sounds all modern and smart but it’s still flawed.. it taxes the home as an asset rather than the real source of unearned wealth, which is the land underneath..

    A LVT would be much fairer and harder to avoid thus encouraging better use of land and tackling speculation..

    Taxing bricks and mortar just hits people unevenly, while taxing land value actually gets right to the heart of the problem..

  25. She has a raging hard-on for tax. I’d understand if she taxed unoccupied homes because that’s just waste, but we absolutely should not be taxing home ownership further. We already live in tiny homes; we have some of the smallest homes in Europe, and don’t even bother comparing them to the rest of the world. Our homes are 30-40% smaller on average than even the much more densely populated Belgium or the Netherlands. Why don’t we encourage and incentivise people to move up to bigger and bigger homes, but no, that’s not the UK way. If you step out of your mandated 3-bed semi, it’s more tax. I presume that’s after 10s of thousands those people paid in stamp duty.

  26. I think this is probably a bad thing – the number of houses that are 1-2million plus isn’t that high and won’t generate that much but a lot of regular folk who live in areas where houses prices are higher on average and just getting by – and median house price is 270k ish ? Say the government doubles it so houses over 550 k ? That’s plenty of homes that will gain an extra tax squeezing us normal people people while the wealthy won’t even have to pay it due to some bollocks loop hole because 3 outa 5 living rooms are used for “”work”” so their home is a workplace and not a house or someshite

  27. I feel like an LVT accomplishes just that.

    But knowing things, they’ll fall short of that.

  28. BaBeBaBeBooby on

    Any time a politician mentions “fairness”, I question fair to whom? Fair in whose opinion? In recent years it has meant screwing anyone who is slightly more successful than average.

  29. Late_Bowl_212 on

    Just scrap the triple lock cut welfare – it’s shocking how the people who objectively contribute the least get so much. This socialist fantasy has to end – it’s not feasible long term.

  30. I think this may have been deliberately chosen to fail. Any time someone proposes higher taxes on expensive properties, the press can always find sympathetic widows living in a big empty family home who can’t afford the rates because they gave very little real income.

    “The granny tax” as the tabloids will probably name it (because it’s the laziest option possible) will then withdrawn and plans to make rich people pay their share abandoned for another decade.

    The way to properly target the very wealthy is to close the gap between income tax rates and capital gains tax rates. Anyone earning income from work of more than £50,270 is taxed at 40% on that gain. The highest rate of capital gains is 32%. So our tax system is designed to reward owning things rather than doing things.

  31. ucardiologist on

    Chelsea residents paying the same amounts of council tax as Liverpool or Birmingham residents

  32. Idiots. If they weren’t bankrupting the country it would.be funny watching how hard this is going to fail. If they implement this, it will be revoked anyway, so the housing market will stagnate and collapse for 4 years. , resulting in less money for them to waste.

    They are literally doing everything opposite to fixing the economy.