Honestly reasonable – the same people who would have lambasted teenagers for blasting music off their phones at the back of the bus 10 years ago are now doom scrolling through tik tok with the volume all the way up on the commute home from work, tired of having to listen to it
Historical_Owl_1635 on
I doubt the people you usually see doing this are the kind of people who’re going to do what TfL asks.
High-Tom-Titty on
Terrible things should happen to sodcasters, but I doubt it will be enforced. Best we can hope for is the odd disapproving look, and occasional tut.
Nukes-For-Nimbys on
I’ve been asking people to turn it down when it feels safe to do so.
About a third do so about a third if ignore you and about a third have a tantrum.
TfL asking nicely might at least move the first group.
timothyevans29 on
Apart from the insane train and bus prices, this is the other reason I stopped getting public transport. So annoying
AlwaysCreamCrackered on
“A third commuter said: “Recently on a train there was a woman she was playing quite loud [music] and I was smiling to her trying to give the idea that not everyone could like that music. She didn’t care.” ”
So remember everyone, to make people aware their loud music might not be liked, just smile at them.
In fact, whenever you don’t like someone doing something irritating from now on, just smile at them and just like that woman, they probably won’t care.
KernowKermit on
Good. Probably won’t make much difference but you have to be seen to be trying these things before we resort to Judge Dredd and Ed-209.
Mammoth-Squirrel2931 on
The government should roll this out to coffee shops and pubs to stop mostly white middle aged men from scrolling facebook with the sound up. These are the real villains of the piece
Bukr123 on
It’s the people who talk on the phone that do it for me. Why would you put your phone on loudspeaker on a public train to speak very loudly to whoever you’re speaking to, when phones can simply be held next to your ear and you can almost whisper into them and the other person will hear! Baffling behaviour
wkavinsky on
Everyone can agree, people who do this (and have all calls on speakerphone, despite phones having, you know, earpieces) are cunts.
Cunts aren’t going to pay any attention to a sign saying “please don’t do this”.
Dapper_Big_783 on
Don’t ask Tell … decent clean countries don’t tolerate this BS
squiggyfm on
If you need to be told then you’re not listening to TfL in the first place.
OGDSound on
Anyone else notice that the folks doing this often have something in common?
inevitablelizard on
This issue feels like a more modern version of the shopping trolley test. Putting it back is the correct thing to do, but not doing it doesn’t really cost you anything. Loud smartphones are an antisocial thing people do because there are no consequences or not enough social pressure to do the correct thing.
Alarmed_Inflation196 on
The only, and I mean the only, way this will get resolved is if 100s of staff regularly patrol the services in a specific enforcement action, issuing fines/penalties and threatening court for breaches of TfL’s Byelaws.
But this is the TfL, so it’ll just be posters asking people to be nice, then blaming passengers for not speaking up
This is yet another manifestation of a parenting crisis
Disillusioned_Pleb01 on
If that’s an inconvenience, I wonder what it’s like to listen to what you don’t like loudly.
OGSyedIsEverywhere on
There are two causes, surely?
* lower amounts of decent behavior
* phone companies getting rid of headphone jacks in most of their products
james2183 on
Those arseholes who don’t wear headphones whilst video calling or watching TikTok – “Go fuck yourself”
ok_not_badform on
Can they ask the cracks not to smoke crack on central please?
Personal_Lab_484 on
A huge issue in society is our unwillingness to confront cunts.
There is no excuse to use tik tok without headphones. The people who do this know they’re cunts and use our fear of confrontation to get away with it.
Then you have the proper lunatics who just want a fight.
If we all started politely, supporting one another when we confront these people we’d be better off. I’m a large 103kg male, I’m happy to be the one who says it but the lack of support from others on the train makes it so much worse.
Imagine a full carriage of people all saying things to the asshole.
johnny5247 on
“asks” is much too mild. These people need “telling” and reminding that there’s a big fine for passengers who don’t comply.
half_man_half_cat on
Why doesn’t the government just fine them to start paying off some of their debt
BonzoTheBoss on
Tell mobile phone manufacturers to bring back the headphone jack then. I’m not forking out for bluetooth headphones.
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Honestly reasonable – the same people who would have lambasted teenagers for blasting music off their phones at the back of the bus 10 years ago are now doom scrolling through tik tok with the volume all the way up on the commute home from work, tired of having to listen to it
I doubt the people you usually see doing this are the kind of people who’re going to do what TfL asks.
Terrible things should happen to sodcasters, but I doubt it will be enforced. Best we can hope for is the odd disapproving look, and occasional tut.
I’ve been asking people to turn it down when it feels safe to do so.
About a third do so about a third if ignore you and about a third have a tantrum.
TfL asking nicely might at least move the first group.
Apart from the insane train and bus prices, this is the other reason I stopped getting public transport. So annoying
“A third commuter said: “Recently on a train there was a woman she was playing quite loud [music] and I was smiling to her trying to give the idea that not everyone could like that music. She didn’t care.” ”
So remember everyone, to make people aware their loud music might not be liked, just smile at them.
In fact, whenever you don’t like someone doing something irritating from now on, just smile at them and just like that woman, they probably won’t care.
Good. Probably won’t make much difference but you have to be seen to be trying these things before we resort to Judge Dredd and Ed-209.
The government should roll this out to coffee shops and pubs to stop mostly white middle aged men from scrolling facebook with the sound up. These are the real villains of the piece
It’s the people who talk on the phone that do it for me. Why would you put your phone on loudspeaker on a public train to speak very loudly to whoever you’re speaking to, when phones can simply be held next to your ear and you can almost whisper into them and the other person will hear! Baffling behaviour
Everyone can agree, people who do this (and have all calls on speakerphone, despite phones having, you know, earpieces) are cunts.
Cunts aren’t going to pay any attention to a sign saying “please don’t do this”.
Don’t ask Tell … decent clean countries don’t tolerate this BS
If you need to be told then you’re not listening to TfL in the first place.
Anyone else notice that the folks doing this often have something in common?
This issue feels like a more modern version of the shopping trolley test. Putting it back is the correct thing to do, but not doing it doesn’t really cost you anything. Loud smartphones are an antisocial thing people do because there are no consequences or not enough social pressure to do the correct thing.
The only, and I mean the only, way this will get resolved is if 100s of staff regularly patrol the services in a specific enforcement action, issuing fines/penalties and threatening court for breaches of TfL’s Byelaws.
But this is the TfL, so it’ll just be posters asking people to be nice, then blaming passengers for not speaking up
This is yet another manifestation of a parenting crisis
If that’s an inconvenience, I wonder what it’s like to listen to what you don’t like loudly.
There are two causes, surely?
* lower amounts of decent behavior
* phone companies getting rid of headphone jacks in most of their products
Those arseholes who don’t wear headphones whilst video calling or watching TikTok – “Go fuck yourself”
Can they ask the cracks not to smoke crack on central please?
A huge issue in society is our unwillingness to confront cunts.
There is no excuse to use tik tok without headphones. The people who do this know they’re cunts and use our fear of confrontation to get away with it.
Then you have the proper lunatics who just want a fight.
If we all started politely, supporting one another when we confront these people we’d be better off. I’m a large 103kg male, I’m happy to be the one who says it but the lack of support from others on the train makes it so much worse.
Imagine a full carriage of people all saying things to the asshole.
“asks” is much too mild. These people need “telling” and reminding that there’s a big fine for passengers who don’t comply.
Why doesn’t the government just fine them to start paying off some of their debt
Tell mobile phone manufacturers to bring back the headphone jack then. I’m not forking out for bluetooth headphones.