In this “Politics and Tactics” edition of the Humpday Hangout, hosts Frank Ricci and P.J. Norwood speak with guests Chris Pfaff and Mark Haugh about the evolving challenges first responders face with the rise of lithium-ion batteries, electric vehicles (EVs), and large-scale battery energy storage systems.
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Drawing on recent research from the EPA, NFPA, and real-world incidents, they discuss practical firefighting tactics—from managing EV fires on ferries to handling residential and commercial solar arrays. The conversation highlights the complexities of emerging technologies, the hazards of toxic and explosive gases from batteries, and the pitfalls of popular suppression tools like EV blankets. They stress the urgent need for cooperative federalism, involving local firefighters in policy decisions, and ensuring small departments are prepared as battery storage warehouses expand into their communities. This episode is essential listening for fire service professionals seeking to stay ahead of rapidly changing energy hazards and maintain public and firefighter safety amid the green energy transition.
Join us live on our Facebook page or our YouTube Channel at 1 p.m. Eastern on August 27, 2025, or watch this space for the discussion.