Did you survey these people at a church? The extreme religious side is way larger overall than the other side.
shapesize on
This would be easier to understand if they were percentages listed instead of the raw numbers
Danph85 on
Total number of people who said god is “not at all important” is 20,478, total who said god is “very important” 54,803. It really shows how important religion is to so many people in the world still.
And that 65% of the very religious people said being gay is never acceptable shows just how fucking judgemental of other people’s business they are.
WiseguyD on
Gigachad “very important, love the gays”
pervocracy on
“Justifiable” is such a funny word to use here, like Your Honor there were extenuating circumstances, I was compelled to action by that ass
Baturinsky on
Same color for 168 and 615?
What’s the reddit for the data visualisation fails?
Illustrious-Drama282 on
Is there some reason homosexuality needs to be justified? Such bizarre phrasing. Maybe have another survey that asks, “how important is homosexuality to you?” And “Can religion be justified?” I’d love to hear the responses there.
Exatex on
Is that worldwide? EVS and WVS are two different datasets. 25% of world population identifies as non religious, yet this graphic shows almost no non-religious people. Something is weird.
pirate-private on
what anti-science question out of hell is this suggestion that you should somehow have to “justify” someone else’s love life?
if anything, we should be asking whether religion is justifiable.
Zosch91 on
there should be a listing like this for each popular religion to make this more coherent.
We all know which religion would stand out in terms of homosexuality – hate
xdumbpuppylunax on
Religious bigotry and toxic values are one of humanity’s most destructive creations.
atgrey24 on
Please, please, please choose a different color scheme with more contrast.
I’m red-green colorblind and have no idea what’s going on here
linmanfu on
Have you used the numbers weighted for population or literally the raw survey numbers?
pondrthis on
I’mma be honest, who would answer like,
> Hmmm, I think homosexuality is justified *sometimes,* but not all the time. I mean, what if they gave up boyfucking for Lent? It’s probably okay if it’s a femboy, but bear on bear is too much, except maybe on a Thursday.
Religiosity seems like a sliding scale, but the “justifiability” of homosexuality seems like a binary, no?
Yelwah on
10 point scale definitely not the best choice
alienfreeks on
I wonder how this has changed overtime. Have we become more religious and less justified about homosexuality as a result or vice versa or not really changed?
MFingAmpharos on
Yes people can Google the study but the data would be more beautiful if the title or accompanying text stated who was surveyed. Is it just one country, multiple countries, the whole world?
Inevitable-Emu-6626 on
This is why human rights shouldn’t be a question. Treat others as you want to be treated should be the goal.
Busterlimes on
I hate it. You gotta add more color to give a visual representation to all the tiles.
NottACalebFan on
The axes are somewhat poorly defined and the data along each edge would be more easily summarized with a subtotal line, imo.
SpaceManJoe316 on
I like how this shows how 5 is not half way between 1 and 10, yet most people treat it like it is. 6 is just as close to the middle, but far fewer people pick it.
WaterNerd518 on
What this doesn’t tell us is why god is important in their lives. Maybe many of the people who god is 10/10 important to is because they have vowed to destroy god and religion completely.
Summoarpleaz on
The meaning aside, the hot zones being the corners and the mid points says to me the scale of the questions should probably not be out of 10. Probably similar results if the questionnaire used a scale out of 5.
4623897 on
This is why there’s a pentagram tattooed on my arm
jossie-the-cat on
I find it interesting that christians always find a way to not accept people for who they are, EVEN AS when they try to lure you to their abusive cult, they tell you “god accepts you for who you are.” In a book where the “lineage of the christ” was a bisexual (king David and Jonathan), and they brushed it off. In Jewish tradition, we all know he was bisexual, but that is not important. People get hung up on sexuality …well, 85% of the population is straight. The vast majority of murderers, liars, adulterers, rapists, insane, narcissistic, etc, etc …are also straight.
If you are going to hate us all, hate the lineage of your christ; for it also is colored with the same colors you always hated because of your ignorance.
parkotron on
I like how the row 5 and column 5 are visibly darker than those around them, implying two things to me:
* Many respondents felt that a one-to-ten scale was way more precision than they needed to answer this question. “Well, I’m not a 1 and I’m not a 10, so 5, I guess?”
* The fact that people use 5 as the midpoint between 1 and 10 (which isn’t accurate) probably causes all results to slightly skew lower. Opinion questions with answers on a scale should always have an odd number of choices to allow a the existence of a neutral answer.
I wonder if this effect would be visible on all the other questions done in this survey?
nasted on
Which god? I’m not interested in Christianity or Islam but Hemsworth’s Thor is pretty important in my bedroom.
BlackPresident on
Who are all these vaguely religious bigots
thegooddoktorjones on
From which we learn this is a dumb question resulting in quite random answers and very religious people are often assholes. Not a very beautiful, a plot showing trend lines in this noisy data would seem more useful.
hhempstead on
how about flipping the question to how important are you in god’s life?
Justryan95 on
I didn’t even know homosexuality acceptance was a spectrum.
Business-Captain8341 on
Very interesting data.
– Twice as many in Not Justifiable At All vs Always.
– With the exception of Very Important, Never Justifiable is fairly evenly distributed across the other religions levels.
– What the heck do those 168 people who don’t really give a shit actually believe in!
– The Very Important and Never Justifiable is absolutely massive. Surprising that.
Nebachadrezzer on
From this it seems the vast majority of people only use 1, 5, or 10.
I wonder if there’s a system where we can get more accurate measurements.
Perhaps remove numbers and add examples to extract measurements from?
PainInTheErasmus on
Interesting that there’s a large number of respondents who lean towards not justifiable (5), but very few who leaned towards justifiable (6).
Duc_de_Magenta on
Am I the only one who finds “justified” to be a bit odd? It almost sounds like you’re asking “how many girls in college are actually bi” rather than “what rights should gays have.”
Like, I’m a full 10 on the religion slider… but I do acknowledge same-sex civil-unions/marriage, maybe even adoption. Where would I land???
Serious_Swan_2371 on
I just don’t understand how the acceptance of gay people can even be a spectrum.
Either you think it’s bad or you don’t. Unless you’re putting other things on the same spectrum and having people rate the morality in relation to those then the gradient is meaningless.
Like it would be interesting to see how religious people put being gay related to abortion related to adultery related to stealing, etc. but this question alone doesn’t need to be a spectrum just yes or no.
Side note it’s so weird that a couple percent of people aren’t religious and still hate gay people, just for no reason other than to hate.
![[OC] The Matrix of Religion and Acceptance](https://www.byteseu.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/0dbozxrtvbnf1-1378x1536.png "[OC] The Matrix of Religion and Acceptance")
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Data source: [https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSEVSjoint2017.jsp](https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSEVSjoint2017.jsp)
Tools used: Matplotlib
Did you survey these people at a church? The extreme religious side is way larger overall than the other side.
This would be easier to understand if they were percentages listed instead of the raw numbers
Total number of people who said god is “not at all important” is 20,478, total who said god is “very important” 54,803. It really shows how important religion is to so many people in the world still.
And that 65% of the very religious people said being gay is never acceptable shows just how fucking judgemental of other people’s business they are.
Gigachad “very important, love the gays”
“Justifiable” is such a funny word to use here, like Your Honor there were extenuating circumstances, I was compelled to action by that ass
Same color for 168 and 615?
What’s the reddit for the data visualisation fails?
Is there some reason homosexuality needs to be justified? Such bizarre phrasing. Maybe have another survey that asks, “how important is homosexuality to you?” And “Can religion be justified?” I’d love to hear the responses there.
Is that worldwide? EVS and WVS are two different datasets. 25% of world population identifies as non religious, yet this graphic shows almost no non-religious people. Something is weird.
what anti-science question out of hell is this suggestion that you should somehow have to “justify” someone else’s love life?
if anything, we should be asking whether religion is justifiable.
there should be a listing like this for each popular religion to make this more coherent.
We all know which religion would stand out in terms of homosexuality – hate
Religious bigotry and toxic values are one of humanity’s most destructive creations.
Please, please, please choose a different color scheme with more contrast.
I’m red-green colorblind and have no idea what’s going on here
Have you used the numbers weighted for population or literally the raw survey numbers?
I’mma be honest, who would answer like,
> Hmmm, I think homosexuality is justified *sometimes,* but not all the time. I mean, what if they gave up boyfucking for Lent? It’s probably okay if it’s a femboy, but bear on bear is too much, except maybe on a Thursday.
Religiosity seems like a sliding scale, but the “justifiability” of homosexuality seems like a binary, no?
10 point scale definitely not the best choice
I wonder how this has changed overtime. Have we become more religious and less justified about homosexuality as a result or vice versa or not really changed?
Yes people can Google the study but the data would be more beautiful if the title or accompanying text stated who was surveyed. Is it just one country, multiple countries, the whole world?
This is why human rights shouldn’t be a question. Treat others as you want to be treated should be the goal.
I hate it. You gotta add more color to give a visual representation to all the tiles.
The axes are somewhat poorly defined and the data along each edge would be more easily summarized with a subtotal line, imo.
I like how this shows how 5 is not half way between 1 and 10, yet most people treat it like it is. 6 is just as close to the middle, but far fewer people pick it.
What this doesn’t tell us is why god is important in their lives. Maybe many of the people who god is 10/10 important to is because they have vowed to destroy god and religion completely.
The meaning aside, the hot zones being the corners and the mid points says to me the scale of the questions should probably not be out of 10. Probably similar results if the questionnaire used a scale out of 5.
This is why there’s a pentagram tattooed on my arm
I find it interesting that christians always find a way to not accept people for who they are, EVEN AS when they try to lure you to their abusive cult, they tell you “god accepts you for who you are.” In a book where the “lineage of the christ” was a bisexual (king David and Jonathan), and they brushed it off. In Jewish tradition, we all know he was bisexual, but that is not important. People get hung up on sexuality …well, 85% of the population is straight. The vast majority of murderers, liars, adulterers, rapists, insane, narcissistic, etc, etc …are also straight.
If you are going to hate us all, hate the lineage of your christ; for it also is colored with the same colors you always hated because of your ignorance.
I like how the row 5 and column 5 are visibly darker than those around them, implying two things to me:
* Many respondents felt that a one-to-ten scale was way more precision than they needed to answer this question. “Well, I’m not a 1 and I’m not a 10, so 5, I guess?”
* The fact that people use 5 as the midpoint between 1 and 10 (which isn’t accurate) probably causes all results to slightly skew lower. Opinion questions with answers on a scale should always have an odd number of choices to allow a the existence of a neutral answer.
I wonder if this effect would be visible on all the other questions done in this survey?
Which god? I’m not interested in Christianity or Islam but Hemsworth’s Thor is pretty important in my bedroom.
Who are all these vaguely religious bigots
From which we learn this is a dumb question resulting in quite random answers and very religious people are often assholes. Not a very beautiful, a plot showing trend lines in this noisy data would seem more useful.
how about flipping the question to how important are you in god’s life?
I didn’t even know homosexuality acceptance was a spectrum.
Very interesting data.
– Twice as many in Not Justifiable At All vs Always.
– With the exception of Very Important, Never Justifiable is fairly evenly distributed across the other religions levels.
– What the heck do those 168 people who don’t really give a shit actually believe in!
– The Very Important and Never Justifiable is absolutely massive. Surprising that.
From this it seems the vast majority of people only use 1, 5, or 10.
I wonder if there’s a system where we can get more accurate measurements.
Perhaps remove numbers and add examples to extract measurements from?
Interesting that there’s a large number of respondents who lean towards not justifiable (5), but very few who leaned towards justifiable (6).
Am I the only one who finds “justified” to be a bit odd? It almost sounds like you’re asking “how many girls in college are actually bi” rather than “what rights should gays have.”
Like, I’m a full 10 on the religion slider… but I do acknowledge same-sex civil-unions/marriage, maybe even adoption. Where would I land???
I just don’t understand how the acceptance of gay people can even be a spectrum.
Either you think it’s bad or you don’t. Unless you’re putting other things on the same spectrum and having people rate the morality in relation to those then the gradient is meaningless.
Like it would be interesting to see how religious people put being gay related to abortion related to adultery related to stealing, etc. but this question alone doesn’t need to be a spectrum just yes or no.
Side note it’s so weird that a couple percent of people aren’t religious and still hate gay people, just for no reason other than to hate.