I know a couple of people who are on welfare (for good reason, mind you) but are voting for Reform. They are literally going to vote for someone who hates them and is going to make their lives even more miserable. I don’t get it.
Terrible_Ghost on
Honestly as a disabled person I am definitely worried about the next few years.
Legitimate_Earth4371 on
Not a great idea when all his voters are the benefit brigade…
Deltaforce1-17 on
Cut what welfare? 2.8 million in this country already use food banks.
The-Peel on
Nothing screams patriotism and loving your country like cutting benefits to the poorest Brits and wanting to give tax breaks to rich foreigners.
People in this country are getting conned the same way Americans were conned by Trump in 2016.
callsignhotdog on
The “look after our own” schtick was always bullshit but I thought they’d keep that to themselves until they were in power.
Pale_Slide_3463 on
Basically echoing what GB “news” said about just shooting disabled people.
People don’t realise how easy it is to suddenly become sick.
GianfrancoZoey on
It’s rarely really brought up because of course it isn’t, but Reform’s economic ideas are the exact kind of ‘libertarian’ insanity that Truss tried to implement
I put libertarian in quotes because while they pretend to be libertarian they’re anything but. They want companies and businesses to be able to do anything they like while people suffer, and (much like Labour) they would also heavily involve Palantir in the operation of the government.
Important_Ruin on
Triple Lock? Or would that upset your voter base too much, as that’s costing a fortune and unsustainable.
I guess it will be things like UC etc. Cause everyone claims that is a ‘scrounger’ and benefits cheat.
Affectionate_Role849 on
The welfare bill does need to be cut though, even Starmer attempted it.
We can’t afford it, no disabled person should be forced into work if they can’t, but it shouldn’t become a lifestyle choice. We have a very squeezed and narrow tax base as is and a ballooning welfare bill.
I assume Reform wouldn’t implement it fairly, but the principle is correct.
OkMap3209 on
>He says that that his mass deportation plans would cost £10 billion, but save £7 billion.
What a joke. Only he can create plans that overall cost money but get support for it.
UppaPeelersYeoow on
And where exactly do they think the saved money is gonna goto… Potholes, nhs, schools?
It’s going to the ultra rich you silly mugs
Fast-Drummer5757 on
They’ll sell off the NHS, destroy welfare and pocket the lot. The country will be destroyed.
Marconi7 on
The welfare budget is completely unsustainable and will collapse under its own weight if reforms aren’t made.
Lando7373 on
As long as a good chunk of that is pensions then I don’t see a problem.
zezblit on
There’s nothing left to cut without people dying or offing themselves
birdinthebush74 on
Bet they won’t touch pensioners ( one of the largest voting demographics)
greetp on
The leopards will all soon feast well on all the faces.
CockchopsMcGraw on
Start with the triple lock and means test the state pension
PickingANameTookAges on
Of course he would…
Nigel F**ktards only questions when it comes to policy making;
1) “Will it enrich me personally?”
2) “Will it create difficulty for the majority of British citizens?”
3) “Will it weaken the United Kingdom?”
If the answer to one is No, it won’t be mentioned. This answer probably carries 52% of the weighting with the other two making up the other 48%.
1 has to be a Yes to even consider 2 and 3, and there must be a minimum of two Yes answers before proposing it as policy.
I fear F**ktard is more dangerous to this country than BoJo the Clown and Liz Lettuce, combined 🤦
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
A lot of people who are net gainers from the benefits system (lower earners, retirees on state pension, people with child benefits and free nursery hours) will hear this and think “well, he doesn’t mean me”.
I promise you he does.
HenshinDictionary on
Farage at this point could promise to personally come round and punch every one of his voters in the face and he would still somehow manage to gain supporters.
bamburypaul on
The problem is he’s right. We need to make big welfare cuts. We need stop thinking of the singular as in how it affects me or even a certain group and more thinking of the nation and realise we have been living beyond our means for to long
Jonatc87 on
All these losers who wanna vote for this guy. Would he even fucking turn up to the job? Has he ever been sighted in Clacton?
boingwater on
So he’s going to be fucking over the working class and disabled then.
Material-Bus1896 on
First they come for immigrants, then disabled people, probably onto gay people after that, then probably everyone who isnt white after that, maybe even Jewish people like the Nazis who came before them. Dark times ahead.
FlockBoySlim on
– Voted against bill to improve workers rights.
– Said he’s open to removing affordable care and privatisation of NHS.
– Wants to repeal human rights act.
– Avoided paying income tax by funneling his income from his job to a private company where the tax hit is much lower.
– Pledges significant cuts to welfare budget (that’s all programmes supported by it being hurt presumably not just folk on the dole)
I give you, the hero of the “ordinary man”.
If Farage snuck into your house and tried to molest you with a pineapple 35% of you wouldn’t notice so long as he promised he’d wipe you off and get rid of all the brown people after he’s done.
Muppets.
killah10killah on
I work with a lot of people in receipt of Universal Credit, disability benefits, tax credits and other legacy benefits.
Overwhelmingly, people aren’t on these benefits because they *want* to be. You can always tell the frustration that people experience when they’re stuck in a situation where they’re reliant on our welfare system.
But that’s why I appreciate our welfare system so much. It’s there, it’s accessible, and it can be the difference between somebody being completely financially unstable, and having enough to live something of a normal life.
I **detest** the rhetoric that our welfare system encourages laziness. I promise you, only a very small percentage of Benefits recipients are cheating/exploiting the system, and as a percentage of overall welfare expenditure, it’s only a few drops in a large pond.
I’m in my late twenties, so I’ve only known Conservatives, Labour and a bit of Lib Dems. I think that both parties are/were far from perfect in their respective stints of running the country. But if there’s ever anything of a strong Reform presence in government, even enough to form a coalition, I will truly feel as though a nasty corner has been turned. Shitty graffiti over roundabouts and bus stops is not even comparable to how it’ll look.
Master_Elderberry275 on
I really hope all the leftwing MPs in the Labour party that embarrassed their own government in the media over PIP cuts and WFP are happy with themselves.
DeeplyProfound_ on
24% of the population is considered disabled. thats a problem within itsself
its another problem when no one can question a disability. which leads to people abusing the system
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I know a couple of people who are on welfare (for good reason, mind you) but are voting for Reform. They are literally going to vote for someone who hates them and is going to make their lives even more miserable. I don’t get it.
Honestly as a disabled person I am definitely worried about the next few years.
Not a great idea when all his voters are the benefit brigade…
Cut what welfare? 2.8 million in this country already use food banks.
Nothing screams patriotism and loving your country like cutting benefits to the poorest Brits and wanting to give tax breaks to rich foreigners.
People in this country are getting conned the same way Americans were conned by Trump in 2016.
The “look after our own” schtick was always bullshit but I thought they’d keep that to themselves until they were in power.
Basically echoing what GB “news” said about just shooting disabled people.
People don’t realise how easy it is to suddenly become sick.
It’s rarely really brought up because of course it isn’t, but Reform’s economic ideas are the exact kind of ‘libertarian’ insanity that Truss tried to implement
I put libertarian in quotes because while they pretend to be libertarian they’re anything but. They want companies and businesses to be able to do anything they like while people suffer, and (much like Labour) they would also heavily involve Palantir in the operation of the government.
Triple Lock? Or would that upset your voter base too much, as that’s costing a fortune and unsustainable.
I guess it will be things like UC etc. Cause everyone claims that is a ‘scrounger’ and benefits cheat.
The welfare bill does need to be cut though, even Starmer attempted it.
We can’t afford it, no disabled person should be forced into work if they can’t, but it shouldn’t become a lifestyle choice. We have a very squeezed and narrow tax base as is and a ballooning welfare bill.
I assume Reform wouldn’t implement it fairly, but the principle is correct.
>He says that that his mass deportation plans would cost £10 billion, but save £7 billion.
What a joke. Only he can create plans that overall cost money but get support for it.
And where exactly do they think the saved money is gonna goto… Potholes, nhs, schools?
It’s going to the ultra rich you silly mugs
They’ll sell off the NHS, destroy welfare and pocket the lot. The country will be destroyed.
The welfare budget is completely unsustainable and will collapse under its own weight if reforms aren’t made.
As long as a good chunk of that is pensions then I don’t see a problem.
There’s nothing left to cut without people dying or offing themselves
Bet they won’t touch pensioners ( one of the largest voting demographics)
The leopards will all soon feast well on all the faces.
Start with the triple lock and means test the state pension
Of course he would…
Nigel F**ktards only questions when it comes to policy making;
1) “Will it enrich me personally?”
2) “Will it create difficulty for the majority of British citizens?”
3) “Will it weaken the United Kingdom?”
If the answer to one is No, it won’t be mentioned. This answer probably carries 52% of the weighting with the other two making up the other 48%.
1 has to be a Yes to even consider 2 and 3, and there must be a minimum of two Yes answers before proposing it as policy.
I fear F**ktard is more dangerous to this country than BoJo the Clown and Liz Lettuce, combined 🤦
A lot of people who are net gainers from the benefits system (lower earners, retirees on state pension, people with child benefits and free nursery hours) will hear this and think “well, he doesn’t mean me”.
I promise you he does.
Farage at this point could promise to personally come round and punch every one of his voters in the face and he would still somehow manage to gain supporters.
The problem is he’s right. We need to make big welfare cuts. We need stop thinking of the singular as in how it affects me or even a certain group and more thinking of the nation and realise we have been living beyond our means for to long
All these losers who wanna vote for this guy. Would he even fucking turn up to the job? Has he ever been sighted in Clacton?
So he’s going to be fucking over the working class and disabled then.
First they come for immigrants, then disabled people, probably onto gay people after that, then probably everyone who isnt white after that, maybe even Jewish people like the Nazis who came before them. Dark times ahead.
– Voted against bill to improve workers rights.
– Said he’s open to removing affordable care and privatisation of NHS.
– Wants to repeal human rights act.
– Avoided paying income tax by funneling his income from his job to a private company where the tax hit is much lower.
– Pledges significant cuts to welfare budget (that’s all programmes supported by it being hurt presumably not just folk on the dole)
I give you, the hero of the “ordinary man”.
If Farage snuck into your house and tried to molest you with a pineapple 35% of you wouldn’t notice so long as he promised he’d wipe you off and get rid of all the brown people after he’s done.
Muppets.
I work with a lot of people in receipt of Universal Credit, disability benefits, tax credits and other legacy benefits.
Overwhelmingly, people aren’t on these benefits because they *want* to be. You can always tell the frustration that people experience when they’re stuck in a situation where they’re reliant on our welfare system.
But that’s why I appreciate our welfare system so much. It’s there, it’s accessible, and it can be the difference between somebody being completely financially unstable, and having enough to live something of a normal life.
I **detest** the rhetoric that our welfare system encourages laziness. I promise you, only a very small percentage of Benefits recipients are cheating/exploiting the system, and as a percentage of overall welfare expenditure, it’s only a few drops in a large pond.
I’m in my late twenties, so I’ve only known Conservatives, Labour and a bit of Lib Dems. I think that both parties are/were far from perfect in their respective stints of running the country. But if there’s ever anything of a strong Reform presence in government, even enough to form a coalition, I will truly feel as though a nasty corner has been turned. Shitty graffiti over roundabouts and bus stops is not even comparable to how it’ll look.
I really hope all the leftwing MPs in the Labour party that embarrassed their own government in the media over PIP cuts and WFP are happy with themselves.
24% of the population is considered disabled. thats a problem within itsself
its another problem when no one can question a disability. which leads to people abusing the system